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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,206 posts)
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 04:44 PM Nov 2018

Moulton calls out Ocasio-Cortez's tweet defending Pelosi as 'offensive'

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.) called Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's (D-N.Y.) tweet defending Rep. Nancy Pelosi's (D-Ca.) Speaker campaign as "offensive" during an interview with Boston Public Radio Friday.

Ocasio-Cortez tweeted earlier in November that challenges to Pelosi becoming speaker were "coming from her right, in an apparent effort to make the party even more conservative and bent toward corporate interests."

Moulton told BPR that her characterization of Pelosi's opposition was “offensive” not only to him, but to legislators like Linda Sanchez (D-Ca.) who also called for a change in leadership among House Democrats.

“It’s offensive because [Sanchez] is in the progressive caucus, she is not to the right of Nancy Pelosi, and it’s also offensive because she’s a woman,” Moulton said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/419169-moulton-calls-out-ocasio-cortezs-tweet-defending-pelosi-as-offensive

Yes but I believe Sanchez may be the one exception.

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Moulton calls out Ocasio-Cortez's tweet defending Pelosi as 'offensive' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 OP
Why isn't Sanchez speaking for herself? lilactime Nov 2018 #1
Yea, what's with the mansplaining? nt Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #2
she's a lady KayF Nov 2018 #3
Sanchez represents a purple district, not really a progressive district. haele Nov 2018 #9
So, a man calls out a woman's tweet which characterized another woman's action and uses suffragette Nov 2018 #4
Yup. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #31
Wow, I am surprised. Another divisionary gossipy report from The Hill telling us how divided still_one Nov 2018 #5
Agreed, The Hill sucks canal water. pwb Nov 2018 #11
I don't a problem if people post this. I hope it is realized that while Democrats do still_one Nov 2018 #12
Both Politico and The Hill slant against us. pwb Nov 2018 #13
I concur pwb still_one Nov 2018 #19
Aww, poor Seth mcar Nov 2018 #6
The Pathetic Pelosi Putsch Gothmog Nov 2018 #7
Wait? Telling the truth JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #8
Who knew Moulton was so sensitive? TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #10
If it quacks like a duck... pecosbob Nov 2018 #14
Sanchez is more to the left of Pelosi? LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #15
No, that ranking makes Pelosi the most conservative of them muriel_volestrangler Nov 2018 #17
Sit down, Seth. yardwork Nov 2018 #16
When AOC says this is an "effort to make the party even more conservative.... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #18
er...wait a minute DonCoquixote Nov 2018 #20
By suggesting Democrats are conservatives and bent towards corporate interests? Small-Axe Nov 2018 #23
AOC's a Dem. Iggo Nov 2018 #29
Give it a rest. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2018 #27
Never. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #28
Yes it does. Iggo Nov 2018 #30
Sanchez has never been accused of over working her brain grantcart Nov 2018 #21
Just my opinion, but Dems didn't pick up forty seats because voters wanted bi-partisanship pecosbob Nov 2018 #22
Pelosi's momentum builds: 'Voting against Pelosi on the floor is a vote for the Republican' Gothmog Nov 2018 #24
Moulton had to reach back to Nov 21st for that tweet from AOC suffragette Nov 2018 #25
That Whiny Boy Needs A Come To Jesus Moment Me. Nov 2018 #26

haele

(12,677 posts)
9. Sanchez represents a purple district, not really a progressive district.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018

She's considered progressive because of some of her social stances - she is very "law and order" and not as liberal as people like to make her out to be, but economically she's very centrist - almost libertarian in some ways - or she wouldn't have stood a chance in the former GOP stronghold of Orange County, California over the past 10 years she's held offices there.
She's also got some rather minor personal issues with Pelosi from way back she still harbors, notwithstanding some of the rather plumb committee assignments she's gotten over the years on her merits.
On edit - she'll say something if she feels it's politically expedient. Until then, she probably doesn't care what Moulton says.

Haele

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
4. So, a man calls out a woman's tweet which characterized another woman's action and uses
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 04:57 PM
Nov 2018

yet another woman’s background as the reason for his action.

Mansplaining trifecta.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
12. I don't a problem if people post this. I hope it is realized that while Democrats do
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 05:36 PM
Nov 2018

disagree with each other, we are not as divided as publications such as the Hill and Politico like to give the impression we are

pwb

(11,291 posts)
13. Both Politico and The Hill slant against us.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 05:39 PM
Nov 2018

Like you said always starting shit. Not as bad as fake fox news though. Peace.

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
7. The Pathetic Pelosi Putsch
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 05:10 PM
Nov 2018

This story makes me smile. Moulton comes off looking like a putsch https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/11/26/speaker-nancy-pelosi-revolt-seth-moulton-222686

Two days after the election, Moulton declared that his crew was committed to voting against Pelosi on the House floor, where only a handful of renegade Democrats would be needed to deny her a winning majority. The following week, he said he was “100 percent confident” he had the votes, and Pelosi’s time was up.

And yet she’s still here.

Pelosi strides into Wednesday’s House Democratic Caucus elections with her head held high, and her high heels on Moulton’s neck. She remains without a Democratic challenger. She has unleashed a wave of support from the Democratic faithful, from Barack Obama on down. She turned two of Moulton’s allies who had, just days before, stated their opposition to her. A third opponent suggested he’ll vote for Pelosi on the floor if no other Democratic option emerges. And she has kept several other Serve America PAC alumni from jumping aboard Moulton’s rickety bandwagon. While Pelosi isn’t completely in the clear for the final vote on January 3 on the House floor—with Moulton clinging to 14 fellow holdouts and eight other Democrats in the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus playing hard to get—she unquestionably holds the whip hand.

Dumping a historic figure like Pelosi, the first female speaker, after she weathered a Republican blitzkrieg to help her party win back the House, was always going to be a tall order. (And don’t say I didn’t warn them!) But Moulton’s operation has been, to borrow some military jargon, FUBAR. He’s poised to not only lose his battle with the party establishment, but to lose in such humiliating fashion that it could ruin his reputation and douse whatever presidential fires may be burning in his belly.

LiberalFighter

(51,093 posts)
15. Sanchez is more to the left of Pelosi?
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 05:51 PM
Nov 2018

Govtrack I think would say otherwise.

The most conservative for 2017 is Pete Sessions with a score of 1.00 and ranked 1.

The most liberal is Barbara Lee with a score of 0.00 and ranked 438.

Sanchez shows up with a score of 0.32 ranking 327 while Pelosi has a score of 0.41 and ranks 278.

Nancy is 49 rankings to the left of Sanchez.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2017/house/ideology


Oh! moulton is to the left of Sanchez too. Ranking of 297.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
17. No, that ranking makes Pelosi the most conservative of them
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

The Republicans have the lower rankings; Lee is #438. So Pelosi's 278 is closer to them. However, I don't know if there are procedural votes involved for Pelosi as leader (eg Paul Ryan comes out with the highest R ranking, at #250). I know votes in the Senate by the leading Dem have often been explained as allowing them to re-open the vote in some way.

 

Small-Axe

(359 posts)
18. When AOC says this is an "effort to make the party even more conservative....
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

and bent toward corporate interests," she attacks our party.

Enough of this shit.

I'm very pro-Pelosi. AOC's slanders of our party are not appreciated by this Democrat.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. er...wait a minute
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:15 PM
Nov 2018

she defended Pelosi and got attacked...so ho is aoc slandering the party by defending Pelosi?

 

Small-Axe

(359 posts)
23. By suggesting Democrats are conservatives and bent towards corporate interests?
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:32 PM
Nov 2018

When she does that, it is crossing a line. Democrat bashing.

WTF?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
21. Sanchez has never been accused of over working her brain
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:20 PM
Nov 2018

Her husband is under indictment for misuse of federal funds

I think most people who are familiar with Sanchez consider her a lightweight and being left or right isn't the issue.

She has been there a long time accomplished nothing and appears not to be well supported by her peers.

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
22. Just my opinion, but Dems didn't pick up forty seats because voters wanted bi-partisanship
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:23 PM
Nov 2018

They wanted the all the grifters thrown out of office. The Chamber of Commerce doesn't get to steer this car...

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
24. Pelosi's momentum builds: 'Voting against Pelosi on the floor is a vote for the Republican'
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 06:33 PM
Nov 2018

This makes me smile https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/11/27/1815602/-Pelosi-s-momentum-builds-Voting-against-Pelosi-on-the-floor-is-a-vote-for-the-Republican

It’s a bad day for the #FiveWhiteGuys, as Nancy Pelosi’s bid to reclaim the speaker’s gavel is getting stronger by the hour. A series of representatives and representatives-elect have come forward to announce their support for Pelosi over Underpants Gnome strategery intended to push the party to the right.

Connecticut’s Jahana Hayes, who had said she wouldn’t support Pelosi, cut right to the chase:


Illinois’s Jesus “Chuy” Garcia said in a statement that “It is time for Democrats to come together and support a unified agenda of progressive values. I urge my freshman colleagues who are undecided to join me in supporting Leader Pelosi.”

According to New Hampshire’s Chris Pappas, “after careful consideration and discussion with many constituents and future colleagues in Congress … I believe [Pelosi] is best equipped to lead the House at this point in our history.”

Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. That Whiny Boy Needs A Come To Jesus Moment
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 09:14 PM
Nov 2018

Nancy is so damn smart and has done so much good, some of which is not even public knowledge. Go after her at you peril Moulton.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211494835

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