Hillary Clinton is meeting with possible 2020 Democrats

[sunonmars]

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/04/politics/hillary-clinton-2020-meetings/index.html

The race to court Hillary Clinton has begun.

The former secretary of state and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee has talked about the 2020 election with Sen. Kamala Harris, Sen. Cory Booker, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, according to two sources close to Clinton, and there are plans for her to talk with other contenders.
The meetings with Clinton are a sign that potential Democratic presidential candidates see value in her endorsement. Clinton maintains a devoted group of supporters around the country (she won over 65 million votes just two years ago) and a strong fundraising network.
The sources close to Clinton tell CNN that the five Democrats she has met with and others waiting for a meeting are asking for her support if they run.
"People are direct in saying they want her support," the source said. "Others are reaching out."
The assumption among people around Clinton is that the former nominee will sit out the Democratic primary and get behind the eventual nominee, but one source cautioned that things could change based on how the primary plays out.
Spokespeople for Harris, Warren, Booker and Garcetti declined to comment. A spokesperson from Hickenlooper did not respond to CNN's request for comment.
Axios was first to report that some potential Democratic candidates were meeting with Clinton.
Nick Merrill, Clinton's spokesman, also declined to comment on the substance of the meetings.

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Of course they should, she knows quite a bit about running for President, the pitfalls, the running, the starting up and of course, she is a huge huge endorsement.

I'm pleased she is offering help and advice. I'd welcome it.

[Pope George Ringo II]

1. I'm thrilled she is passing on her experience. There are a lot of lessons since 1992.

I'm also happy this means we can put the "Hillary 2020" idea to bed once and for all. She's clearly going to be an elder stateswoman, not a contender.

[panader0]

4. Agreed. She's very smart and any candidate should heed her words.

I wish all of the potential candidates would convene and figure out the
best path forward. Bring in Hillary and Barack and discuss it.

[ismnotwasm]

3. That's fairly fucking rude

Hillary doesn’t fucking need to go away, shut up, take up knitting or visit her grandchildren for a fucking hobby. She’s an experienced politician with a lot to offer, I don’t fucking want her to
Go away, I want her up front and center. What the fuck.

[R B Garr]

5. Thank you! Thankfully I missed the comment, but

love your response. You said it perfectly.

[ismnotwasm]

6. You are welcome

[Hermit-The-Prog]

16. "up front and center"

I'll second that. In spite of everything they threw at her, including a 30 year smear campaign, she got more votes. She's awesome.

[Cha]

26. I was expecting something like

that before I clicked on the thread.

Thanks for giving them what for, ismnotwasm!

[R B Garr]

7. This is great news. Hillary is a great resource and dissing

her is obviously not a winning strategy.

[ismnotwasm]

9. She brings a lot more to the table than that.

She put together a good team, allocating resources wisely and campaigned her ass off. She met with thousands of everyday Americans on the campaign trail and mended her bridges and thus gained the African American vote. Especially Black women voters, who voted for her at 94%.

The mistakes, the real and the perceived are not at issue here. She and her team have been torn apart and analyzed every possible way. Don’t worry about that.

She’s not going to tell someone not to campaign in Pennsylvania or something.

[ismnotwasm]

14. Dude.

Three states were a difference of 40,000 votes. Lots of bullshit went on.

My point is, her campaign has been analyzed to the ground, and any new campaign will have its own optics. She doesn’t need to “tell” them shit. She will be part of a team, not the be all answer.

[StevieM]

11. She ran more ads and had a larger ground game in all those states than Obama did in 2012.

Where you make your campaign stops is not the dominant factor in winning a state.

Furthermore, she made more campaign stops in Pennsylvania, along with Florida and Ohio, than any other state.

She also made 4 stops in Michigan, which was more than she made in Colorado, Virginia or Minnesota.

So we are talking about one state, Wisconsin, where she did not schedule rallies. That is not why she lost. She would not have won the election if she had won Wisconsin. And if the race had been closer than Wisconsin would not have cost her the election, because there were states like PA and FL that were much closer. Had she won them she would have also won WI and MI.

Had Comey not turned the race upside down at the end she would have won all of those states.

Besides, Donald Trump CANCELLED an appearance in Wisconsin at the very end of the race.

[StevieM]

15. Trump was totally haphazard in picking his campaign stops.

There was no logic to it.

And if Trump was trying to win Wisconsin through campaign stops he would not have CANCELLED a campaign stop there in the final week. That got a lot of coverage.

The point is that there has been all this nonsense about HRC not campaigning in battle ground states. The claims about MI and PA are pure fiction and in the case of WI people are mistakenly under the impression that she had no campaign there at all, no commericals or ground game. That is a very different argument than saying she should have scheduled rallies in one more state than she did.

[StevieM]

20. If Comey hadn't intervened HRC would have won Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan,

and North Carolina, even under the worst possible circumstances. She probably would have won Arizona too.

The 2016 election was all about the fake email scandal, and how Comey and the FBI drove the story so effectively for the GOP.

[LisaM]

27. The margin of people thrown off the rolls in Wisconsin was way larger than the number of votes

she lost by there, not to mention a lot of poll problems in Milwaukee. It was a setup to get rid of the urban, liberal vote to the extent possible, and it worked. Years of unchecked malfeasance by Walker and his crooked cronies paid off.

I don't think a campaign stop in Racine would have changed the outcome for her. The GOP jobbed the vote.

Michigan had similar problems with the Detroit vote - broken machines, long lines, shifted polling places. Along with the Russian interference and Comey's nonsense, the election played out exactly as the GOP wished. They've been working on this for years.

[Baconator]

19. Comey Schmomey...

It shouldn't have been so close that a fraction of a percentage could turn the tide.

[StevieM]

22. It wasn't that close. And Comey didn't just turn a fraction of a percentage, he dominated the race

from start to finish. He did extraordinary damage to her on multiple occasions.

[Baconator]

24. Stuff like this is why I worry about 2020...

It feels like we've learned absolutely nothing.

[StevieM]

25. What I have learned is that everyone wants to use the 2016 election results to validate whatever

point of view they believed in, and claim that it proves that they were right all along.

So for example, some say that we cannot possibly win unless we run a candidate who supports single payer health care. I am not against single payer, but I don't see any evidence that this claim is true.

Speaking for myself, I worry that people will have to validate the claims about HRC campaigning in the wrong places, so they won't contest North Carolina and Arizona.

I worry that we are forgetting what has been proven for the last 25 years: Republicans win when they successfully swift boat the Democrat. When they fail to do so they will usually lose.

It's funny how were weren't hearing about this awfully run campaign when the election was going on. We usually hear all about it when it is happening, like Dukakis '88, or even (supposedly) HRC '08.

[customerserviceguy]

32. Agreed

I fear a clusterfuck coming our way, on the path to getting a nominee. My worst fear is that we will come to the convention with no one having a first-ballot victory possibility, and on the second ballot, the superdelegates take charge. It may produce an extreme amount of division.

[Cha]

29. Comey Schmomey yourself.. there were other

deciding factors like Russia, Cambridge analytica, voter suppression, Fucking 3rd party RF jill stein's Lies, and the Fucking Hate on M$M.. constantly.. While normalizing that MF trump.

And, she still got almost 3 Million for votes than the MF.

Damn Straight potential 2020 candidates would meet with Hillary.

[sunonmars]

10. I just hope when we win in 2020, she gets a good post out of it. We need her expertise.

[Baconator]

21. Absolutely not...

The party is two generations behind in leadership.

Quit looking back.

[Cha]

30. Absolutley So.. We need qualified Experience

going Forward.

[Cha]

31. That would be so righteous!

[marlakay]

18. Her advice is greatly welcomed

Just hope she doesn't use her power to black ball candidates she doesn't like. I am for all the candidates and get angry when those in power shut certain ones out.

[StevieM]

23. Hillary never had thatr kind of power to begin with, nor is that the type of thing that she would

have done if she did. People just love to ascribe extraordinary power and extraordinary motives to her.

Nobody is getting shut out of the 2020 race, just like nobody got shut out of the 2016 race. Anyone who wanted to run was welcome to and it will be the same way this time around.

[Renew Deal]

28. Does Garcetti think he can win?

Or does he think this is a good way to raise his profile?