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FFS!!! Let's remove the Turdles source of income and see how he likes it!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/politics/senate-blocks-vote-congress-shutdown/index.html
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blocked a move by Senate Democrats on Thursday to get the chamber to vote on spending bills to reopen the government on day 20 of the ongoing partial shutdown.
In a back-and-forth on the Senate floor, Senate Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, on Thursday called for the Senate to take up legislation advanced by House Democrats to reopen shuttered parts of the federal government and argued that parts of the federal government not related to the border wall should be re-opened immediately as negotiations continue over the border wall, but Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell objected to the move, saying that "political stunts are not going to get us anywhere."
McConnell has made clear that he won't take up any legislation related to the shutdown in the Senate that President Donald Trump won't sign. And the President has dug in in his refusal to sign legislation that does not meet his demand for roughly $5 billion for a border wall, which Democrats refuse to provide.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)He's waiting for something to happen.
What is it? What is his end game?
ScratchCat
(1,999 posts)It makes no sense at this point. Trump's position isn't held by even a majority of rank and file GOPers. There is clearly an ulterior motive here, either someone is holding something over his head or like you say(what is he waiting for?). This can't just be "tribal politics" at this point, because holding 800,000 Americans hostage over one spending item that 2/3's of Americans are against makes no rational sense.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)When your enemies are fighting, why interfere?
ananda
(28,870 posts)He's fighting with his last gasp, wounded and bleeding
like a bear tied to a stake.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)"You're on your own, Individual One. Good luck, that Pelosi is dangerous!"
Meanwhile, he's hoping the bear mauls Schumer and Pelosi.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)over the Congress. He needs to put the bill up for a vote even if it will get a veto then see if the veto can be overridden. It is not his job to do the White House bidding the President can speak for himself.
erronis
(15,314 posts)The measly $200K(?) that he gets for showing up in DC and blocking progress pales compared to what he and his wife are paid to serve other interests.
He could say "screw you" to all of his US salary and retirement funds and still be a FILTHY rich person.
Lonestarblue
(10,030 posts)He is up for re-election in 2020, but no Republican in Kentucky is going to primary him if he runs. And for heavens sake, hes 76 years old now so 78 in 2020. Isnt it time for him to retire and enjoy his ill-gotten gains? Or does Trump have Russian compromat on McConnell or the Chao family that he is using to force Mitch to do his bidding?
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)He has all the power in this shutdown and he wants it to continue until the crisis is maximized for his purposes.
He's not retiring. He loves power. He's remaking the Federal Judiciary. He stymied Obama for 8 years and never paid a price.
Wounded Bear
(58,676 posts)Who'd a thunk?
wcmagumba
(2,886 posts)outside of his office and at his home?
bluestarone
(17,002 posts)VOTE IS TAKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Demit
(11,238 posts)leftieNanner
(15,137 posts)the fact that democratic senators are refusing to vote on anything until Mitch brings up the legislation to reopen the government.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,383 posts)He wants a gutted government, ruled by people just like him.
elleng
(131,028 posts)after whomever repugs run for Potus.
erronis
(15,314 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,206 posts)He's not John McCain. He won't work til he drops.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)but you cant do that I suppose
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)... or, as you say, who is controlling him.
MyOwnPeace
(16,936 posts)Back to the saying: "FOLLOW THE MONEY!"
McTurtle knows ALL about the money, especially the rubles.
Money flowed to the Repugs, IQ45's campaign, and the NRA. McTurtle knows ALL about ALL of those tracks.
Think that's nuts? Answer this:
Why did he refuse to allow PRESIDENT Obama's nominee for the Supreme Court a hearing?
Why did he refuse to allow PRESIDENT Obama to disclose secret information regarding Russian interference in the 2016 elections?
Why is he now hiding in his shell somewhere?
If IQ45 goes down, McTurtle goes down.
THAT is why he will do anything and everything to protect IQ45, citizens of the USA be damned!
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Does this motherfucker asshole not realize that what he is doing is a POLITICAL STUNT? Who the fuck is he kidding?
Apparently covering for Tyrannical DICKtator Trump is what his job is now. Fuck the people.
underpants
(182,848 posts)No really hes just an asshole.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)It's their standard "DC is the problem" deflection for the barely-paying-attention low-information voter.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)Merrick Garland's nomination to the Supreme Court, just so IQ-45 could stack the SC with right-wing zealots?
THAT kind of political stunt, and playing politics, McTurtle? Fuck off and die you greasy weasel.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,618 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)Is becoming more despicable every day... if that is even possible.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)ScratchCat
(1,999 posts)... maybe there is a "silent agreement" among the Senate Republicans that if he declares a national emergency, that will be the last straw and they will remove him once the House impeaches him? That's why they are "playing along". They are just giving him the rope to hang himself with? I can wish, right?
treestar
(82,383 posts)Trying to read about how a bill becomes law, I don't see it.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)He should not be able to block consideration of things. I thought it might be as a committee member? Committees can "table" bills and that leaves the unconsidered. Just seems ridiculous for the Majority leader to be able to have what is practically a veto.
bluestarone
(17,002 posts)The senate RETHUGS will not stop him!!!
treestar
(82,383 posts)and it seemed they could do that to force the bill for consideration!
Demit
(11,238 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Very bad thing. Gives him veto power over legislation in effect.
Demit
(11,238 posts)It's not "veto" power. It's control of the political agenda. Thank god we have that power back in the House.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It is like a veto power in that he could prevent a bill from consideration even if the vast majority of the voters want it passed.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Then I googled for you and (rather quickly) found this in the wiki page for history of the US Senate:
"Prior to World War II, Senate majority leader had few formal powers. But in 1937, the rule giving majority leader right of first recognition was created. With the addition of this rule, the Senate majority leader enjoyed far greater control over the agenda of which bills to be considered on the floor."
If you need more specificity I suggest you call your senator's office.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I just wonder who thought this was a good idea. But no one as partisan as the Turtle has ever been in the position.
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)and decides what business will be carried out each day.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/calendars.htm
treestar
(82,383 posts)that the majority leader controls it and can stop a bill from even being considered?
I read more about it and it seems a "discharge petition" could get around it?
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)See this for some links - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11633354
And in the case of the Senate, their method of "discharge" mainly applies to non-controversial stuff like publicly honoring a notable figure or naming post offices. I.e., things that no one would object to so these items would normally be passed "by unanimous consent". Alternately, the only other way is via application of the "Congressional Review Act", which allows both chambers of congress to review regulation changes and jointly act on them if they believe it the scope of the rule goes beyond what they intended for the agency (and thus speed the process to vote on any legislation that would forestall implementation of the offending rules).
This is different from the process in the House where if a majority (generally 218) of the members in the House want to immediately consider legislation that is being held in committee (by the chair and often per request of the Speaker) signs a "discharge petition" (as a privileged request) and a vote to discharge the measure is successful, then the bill will need to be brought out of committee and scheduled for consideration on the floor. I believe there is a waiting period of 30 days though before that can be done.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Congressional procedures really stump me, especially the Senate!
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)especially if you are someone who is familiar with "Robert's Rules of Order" (which delves deep into all the protocols used in legislative-type or other types of formal meetings).
peggysue2
(10,836 posts)the Senate floor should be put on a continuous loop for all to see, again and again and again.
So, when the question of who is responsible for the continuing shutdown? Everyone can see and hear for themselves, no filters, no explanations or excuses.
Tell our Federal employees face-to-face that legislation to reopen the government is a political stunt. I dare you, McTurtle!
Kota
(901 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)The more republicans will be voted out of office, and trump has no shot at all getting elected again, and the Senate will easily be retaken by the Democrats , and he knows this now. His rally's and speeches wanting more money from donors is nothing more than he's fleecing them for his legal fees now, and for personal use to pay other bills with. He won't run again , but he won't tell his supporters that, ever because he needs the money.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)there isn't another vote for 22 months. the flibberdigibbets who comprise america's low-information voters will blame both sides by then - I already see it on FB.
DeminPennswoods
(15,289 posts)most affected by the govt shutdown.
I'm sure the Kentucky Democratic Party is gleefully recording McConnell on the Senate floor refusing to re-open the federal government for use against him and his 2020 re-election campaign. Remember last year Kentucky teachers and others held big protests at their capitol to keep the state legislature from messing with their pensions. Even Kentucky is getting fed up with GOP-imposed "sacrifice".
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)and that if they do, he'll be able to blame it on anyone but himself. Why, he's powerless!
They'd better run Steve Beshear against him, because there's not many Dems on their bench.
DeminPennswoods
(15,289 posts)nt
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)I am not so sure. There will be multiple outrages between then and now, foremost being the failure of the GOP Senate to convict the Dotard in his Impeachment Trial.
This shutdown will be old news.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Yet at the same time they re-elected the Turtle whose goal was to eliminate it.
BumRushDaShow
(129,228 posts)NOT just the internet.
They have been running ads everywhere. Now we have a sound bite from McConnell saying that re-opening the government is not "important" enough for consideration.
MagickMuffin
(15,949 posts)The Democrats are moving the goalposts in our direction.
"political stunts are not going to get us anywhere." Like the political stunt you pulled over and over and over again when Barack Obama was President???
Fork off McTurtle!!!
dalton99a
(81,543 posts)The rot is total and complete
Vinca
(50,299 posts)Enough already. If McConnell can't move unless Don says he can, he'd better be on the personal payroll. Maybe he can craft fake documents at the Trump golf course for a living.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Previous Governor.
Don't hold your breath.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)You could have Jesus H. Christ (D) versus Lucifer Satan (R).... The Republican would win, aided by the votes from the Evangelical Xtians.
dlk
(11,574 posts)Putin's goal has always been to create chaos in the U. S. and his Republican stooges are helping him out.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,020 posts)Trump & Republicans are one and the same.
Don't let ANYONE get away unchallenged saying Democrats are to blame.
Remember to remind people this is Trump's Christmas Shutdown. He is grinchy, he is mean, he shut it down days before christmas and it has been that long. He said he was proud to own it, before he tried blaming Democrats.
SunSeeker
(51,598 posts)Just like he blocked Obama's Supreme Court nominee.
Just like he is blocking a bill to protect Mueller.
He is a fucking evil traitor.
SunSeeker
(51,598 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,914 posts)and all who pull his strings.
RayStar
(417 posts)Mitch is an awful person and the gop senators need to reject his actions.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)and that Congress is a co-equal branch of government, not employees of the president.
Either that, or he's compromised.
treestar
(82,383 posts)can control the agenda does where the POTUS and the Majority leader agree.
Even if a majority of Senate Rethugs want the bill to come to the floor, they can't do anything about it?
That rule needs to be changed.
ck4829
(35,078 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Liberalhammer
(576 posts)I mean the pressure to open th e government will be at full pitch next week.
Even safe thugs are going to feel it because poor southern states leach off the federal government
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,383 posts)People need to call out the gutless GOP for allowing Mitch McConnell to aid and abet a known traitor.
They need to be in damage control and unseat their kompromat leader.
2020 is coming.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,383 posts)The majority leader is elected, and that can happen at any time the majority decide to do so. The Republican Caucus of the Senate could demand he step down and, if he refuses, vote for a new leader.
They are the Gutless GOP, though, and will not do anything unless told to do so by a higher authority such as the NRA, Putin, Trump, or the Koch brothers.
GUTLESS GOP should be what they hear everywhere they go.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)CincyDem
(6,374 posts)...he won't give a Dem House a functioning government.
McConnell won't say it out lout but he's as committed (or more) to this shutdown than trump. It's his was of saying he's the gatekeeper of congress - not the Speaker of the House.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)If Hitler were president, I think he would support him too, blind allegiance. It's all getting really weird.
CincyDem
(6,374 posts)And they're all coming home to collect their due.
Between him and his wife, I' sure it's at least the Russians and the Chinese. I'm sure any one of them can take him down...and he's a boy who loves him some power. I often through Frank Underwood was more cast after Mitch than anyone else in DC.
"...such a waste of talent..." A more autobiographical comment by an actor has rarely been made.