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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:21 PM Jan 2019

McConnell blocks Senate Democrats' move to reopen government

FFS!!! Let's remove the Turdles source of income and see how he likes it!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/politics/senate-blocks-vote-congress-shutdown/index.html

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blocked a move by Senate Democrats on Thursday to get the chamber to vote on spending bills to reopen the government on day 20 of the ongoing partial shutdown.

In a back-and-forth on the Senate floor, Senate Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, on Thursday called for the Senate to take up legislation advanced by House Democrats to reopen shuttered parts of the federal government and argued that parts of the federal government not related to the border wall should be re-opened immediately as negotiations continue over the border wall, but Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell objected to the move, saying that "political stunts are not going to get us anywhere."

McConnell has made clear that he won't take up any legislation related to the shutdown in the Senate that President Donald Trump won't sign. And the President has dug in in his refusal to sign legislation that does not meet his demand for roughly $5 billion for a border wall, which Democrats refuse to provide.

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McConnell blocks Senate Democrats' move to reopen government (Original Post) RKP5637 Jan 2019 OP
He has the power to end this, and he's not using it. Deliberately. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #1
I keep trying to make this point too ScratchCat Jan 2019 #5
I think he's waiting until Trump & the Dems wound each other. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #14
!-5 is already severely wounded. ananda Jan 2019 #38
McConnell's not exactly handing him a tourniquet, is he? maxsolomon Jan 2019 #60
McConnell needs to do his job he is putting the executive branch scarytomcat Jan 2019 #31
McTurtle, like many, has at least two jobs. His more important one is serving the real masters. erronis Jan 2019 #49
It makes no sense for McConnell to be Trump's doormat. Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #34
He's PRETENDING to be Trump's doormat maxsolomon Jan 2019 #40
McConnell acting like an asshole Repub? Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #2
Maybe he needs more protests... wcmagumba Jan 2019 #3
NOTHING should move in the senate UNTIL bluestarone Jan 2019 #4
lolwut? Demit Jan 2019 #20
This is in reference to leftieNanner Jan 2019 #52
He cares more about Twitler saving face than his constituents in KY Roland99 Jan 2019 #6
he cares more about maintaining power Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #72
McC is up for re-election 2020, he should be our #2 target, elleng Jan 2019 #7
He won't run. He's inflicted maximum damage. Time to "get back to family" erronis Jan 2019 #50
And he'll be 78 in 2020 TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #83
OP should be revised to Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #8
It does make you wonder just what his agenda is. Is he in love with tRump that much ... RKP5637 Jan 2019 #18
Definitely "who is controlling him" MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #36
McConnell should get pilloried....Political stunt? ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #9
He thinks governing is a political stunt underpants Jan 2019 #13
Every GOP Senator accuses Dems of "playing politics" or "political stunts" maxsolomon Jan 2019 #16
Like McTurtle's "stunt" and "political play" to block... SergeStorms Jan 2019 #57
#motherfuckingturtle BluesRunTheGame Jan 2019 #10
Dems can shut down every other single bill, do no work in the Senate until they do. sunonmars Jan 2019 #11
McConnel lsewpershad Jan 2019 #12
Yeah, he's right up there with tRump! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2019 #19
Wait, here is some wishful thinking... ScratchCat Jan 2019 #15
Where does he get the power to do this? treestar Jan 2019 #17
It's incredible he can just block everything, as he did with Obama, and nothing gets to the floor. RKP5637 Jan 2019 #21
I was reading that the majority leader doesn't have much power per se treestar Jan 2019 #24
Only because bluestarone Jan 2019 #30
Yes, I was reading about the "discharge petition" treestar Jan 2019 #65
The Senate Majority Leader controls whether bills go to the floor or not. Demit Jan 2019 #23
Is that in the Senate rules someplace? treestar Jan 2019 #25
Yes. The leader of the majority party in each chamber controls the agenda. Demit Jan 2019 #28
OK but where in the rules does it say that? treestar Jan 2019 #61
Article 1 Section 5 says that each chamber of Congress can set its own rules. Demit Jan 2019 #70
See below; a poster gave me links treestar Jan 2019 #77
The Majority Leader "controls the calendar" BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #33
OK that is the calendar but on what tablets is it written treestar Jan 2019 #62
It's in the rules! BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #71
Thank you so much, I am going to look at that treestar Jan 2019 #76
It's pretty fascinating actually BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #79
This back and forth on . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #22
This should be blasted all over the news, every channel. Kota Jan 2019 #26
+1 ck4829 Jan 2019 #75
The longer trump and mc connell continue duforsure Jan 2019 #27
you overestimate the memory of the american public maxsolomon Jan 2019 #48
Kentucky is number 16 on the list of states DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #29
McConnell knows no one will remember this in 2 years maxsolomon Jan 2019 #42
Pretty sure there'll be plenty of media ads reminding voters DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #58
One would hope maxsolomon Jan 2019 #59
I hope. I read that the ACA worked very well for them treestar Jan 2019 #63
Time to buy ad time on TV BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #32
This lays the blame squarely on McConnell MagickMuffin Jan 2019 #35
Senate Majority Leader McConnell can't wipe his ass without the president's permission. dalton99a Jan 2019 #37
He's up in 2020. Have we got someone who can viably challenge him? Vinca Jan 2019 #39
Steve Beshear maxsolomon Jan 2019 #43
My thinking it's KY and you'll get a Republican no matter what. mwooldri Jan 2019 #44
Of Course McConnell Won't Permit a Vote - Just Think What the Kompromat Would Reveal if He Did dlk Jan 2019 #41
So. It is on McCONnell. Trump closed it & Republicans are keeping government closed. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #45
Just like he blocked a bipartisan statement on Russian meddling in June of 2016. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #46
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #47
The House Oversight Committee needs to investigate McConnell Ford_Prefect Jan 2019 #51
So much hatred RayStar Jan 2019 #53
McConnell has forgotten about checks & balances NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #54
Yes, you have to wonder what the rule that the majority leader treestar Jan 2019 #64
Indeed ck4829 Jan 2019 #73
BASTARD ailsagirl Jan 2019 #55
Would any Rethugs challenge McConnell Liberalhammer Jan 2019 #56
Gutless GOP could stop Moscow Mitch Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #66
It's absurd that the system is such that one person, the Turtle, can block it! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2019 #67
the gutless GOP could force him to resign, or oust him Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #68
Definitely!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2019 #69
Kick ck4829 Jan 2019 #74
He wouldn't give a Dem President his rightful SCOTUS pick, now... CincyDem Jan 2019 #78
It really makes you wonder who has what on McConnell. Is he Putin's BFF too like tRump. RKP5637 Jan 2019 #80
Yeah - I agree that old Mitch has probably sold his soul 3 times over to several folks. CincyDem Jan 2019 #81
So, Mitch is scared of Donald. whow. just WHOW! riversedge Jan 2019 #82

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
1. He has the power to end this, and he's not using it. Deliberately.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jan 2019

He's waiting for something to happen.

What is it? What is his end game?

ScratchCat

(1,999 posts)
5. I keep trying to make this point too
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019

It makes no sense at this point. Trump's position isn't held by even a majority of rank and file GOPers. There is clearly an ulterior motive here, either someone is holding something over his head or like you say(what is he waiting for?). This can't just be "tribal politics" at this point, because holding 800,000 Americans hostage over one spending item that 2/3's of Americans are against makes no rational sense.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
14. I think he's waiting until Trump & the Dems wound each other.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jan 2019

When your enemies are fighting, why interfere?

ananda

(28,870 posts)
38. !-5 is already severely wounded.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:37 PM
Jan 2019

He's fighting with his last gasp, wounded and bleeding
like a bear tied to a stake.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
60. McConnell's not exactly handing him a tourniquet, is he?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:56 PM
Jan 2019

"You're on your own, Individual One. Good luck, that Pelosi is dangerous!"

Meanwhile, he's hoping the bear mauls Schumer and Pelosi.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
31. McConnell needs to do his job he is putting the executive branch
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:11 PM
Jan 2019

over the Congress. He needs to put the bill up for a vote even if it will get a veto then see if the veto can be overridden. It is not his job to do the White House bidding the President can speak for himself.

erronis

(15,314 posts)
49. McTurtle, like many, has at least two jobs. His more important one is serving the real masters.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:44 PM
Jan 2019

The measly $200K(?) that he gets for showing up in DC and blocking progress pales compared to what he and his wife are paid to serve other interests.

He could say "screw you" to all of his US salary and retirement funds and still be a FILTHY rich person.

Lonestarblue

(10,030 posts)
34. It makes no sense for McConnell to be Trump's doormat.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jan 2019

He is up for re-election in 2020, but no Republican in Kentucky is going to primary him if he runs. And for heavens sake, he’s 76 years old now so 78 in 2020. Isn’t it time for him to retire and enjoy his ill-gotten gains? Or does Trump have Russian compromat on McConnell or the Chao family that he is using to force Mitch to do his bidding?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
40. He's PRETENDING to be Trump's doormat
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:44 PM
Jan 2019

He has all the power in this shutdown and he wants it to continue until the crisis is maximized for his purposes.

He's not retiring. He loves power. He's remaking the Federal Judiciary. He stymied Obama for 8 years and never paid a price.

leftieNanner

(15,137 posts)
52. This is in reference to
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

the fact that democratic senators are refusing to vote on anything until Mitch brings up the legislation to reopen the government.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
8. OP should be revised to
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019
Russian financed traitor blocks Senate Dems reopening govt



but you cant do that I suppose

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
18. It does make you wonder just what his agenda is. Is he in love with tRump that much ...
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jan 2019

... or, as you say, who is controlling him.

MyOwnPeace

(16,936 posts)
36. Definitely "who is controlling him"
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jan 2019

Back to the saying: "FOLLOW THE MONEY!"

McTurtle knows ALL about the money, especially the rubles.

Money flowed to the Repugs, IQ45's campaign, and the NRA. McTurtle knows ALL about ALL of those tracks.

Think that's nuts? Answer this:

Why did he refuse to allow PRESIDENT Obama's nominee for the Supreme Court a hearing?
Why did he refuse to allow PRESIDENT Obama to disclose secret information regarding Russian interference in the 2016 elections?
Why is he now hiding in his shell somewhere?

If IQ45 goes down, McTurtle goes down.

THAT is why he will do anything and everything to protect IQ45, citizens of the USA be damned!




ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
9. McConnell should get pilloried....Political stunt?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jan 2019

Does this motherfucker asshole not realize that what he is doing is a POLITICAL STUNT? Who the fuck is he kidding?

Apparently covering for Tyrannical DICKtator Trump is what his job is now. Fuck the people.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
16. Every GOP Senator accuses Dems of "playing politics" or "political stunts"
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

It's their standard "DC is the problem" deflection for the barely-paying-attention low-information voter.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
57. Like McTurtle's "stunt" and "political play" to block...
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jan 2019

Merrick Garland's nomination to the Supreme Court, just so IQ-45 could stack the SC with right-wing zealots?

THAT kind of political stunt, and playing politics, McTurtle? Fuck off and die you greasy weasel.

ScratchCat

(1,999 posts)
15. Wait, here is some wishful thinking...
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jan 2019

... maybe there is a "silent agreement" among the Senate Republicans that if he declares a national emergency, that will be the last straw and they will remove him once the House impeaches him? That's why they are "playing along". They are just giving him the rope to hang himself with? I can wish, right?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. Where does he get the power to do this?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jan 2019

Trying to read about how a bill becomes law, I don't see it.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
21. It's incredible he can just block everything, as he did with Obama, and nothing gets to the floor.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. I was reading that the majority leader doesn't have much power per se
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:51 PM
Jan 2019

He should not be able to block consideration of things. I thought it might be as a committee member? Committees can "table" bills and that leaves the unconsidered. Just seems ridiculous for the Majority leader to be able to have what is practically a veto.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
65. Yes, I was reading about the "discharge petition"
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jan 2019

and it seemed they could do that to force the bill for consideration!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
25. Is that in the Senate rules someplace?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:51 PM
Jan 2019

Very bad thing. Gives him veto power over legislation in effect.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
28. Yes. The leader of the majority party in each chamber controls the agenda.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jan 2019

It's not "veto" power. It's control of the political agenda. Thank god we have that power back in the House.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
61. OK but where in the rules does it say that?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

It is like a veto power in that he could prevent a bill from consideration even if the vast majority of the voters want it passed.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
70. Article 1 Section 5 says that each chamber of Congress can set its own rules.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jan 2019

Then I googled for you and (rather quickly) found this in the wiki page for history of the US Senate:

"Prior to World War II, Senate majority leader had few formal powers. But in 1937, the rule giving majority leader right of first recognition was created. With the addition of this rule, the Senate majority leader enjoyed far greater control over the agenda of which bills to be considered on the floor."

If you need more specificity I suggest you call your senator's office.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
77. See below; a poster gave me links
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:20 PM
Jan 2019

I just wonder who thought this was a good idea. But no one as partisan as the Turtle has ever been in the position.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
62. OK that is the calendar but on what tablets is it written
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jan 2019

that the majority leader controls it and can stop a bill from even being considered?

I read more about it and it seems a "discharge petition" could get around it?

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
71. It's in the rules!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:47 PM
Jan 2019


See this for some links - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11633354

And in the case of the Senate, their method of "discharge" mainly applies to non-controversial stuff like publicly honoring a notable figure or naming post offices. I.e., things that no one would object to so these items would normally be passed "by unanimous consent". Alternately, the only other way is via application of the "Congressional Review Act", which allows both chambers of congress to review regulation changes and jointly act on them if they believe it the scope of the rule goes beyond what they intended for the agency (and thus speed the process to vote on any legislation that would forestall implementation of the offending rules).

This is different from the process in the House where if a majority (generally 218) of the members in the House want to immediately consider legislation that is being held in committee (by the chair and often per request of the Speaker) signs a "discharge petition" (as a privileged request) and a vote to discharge the measure is successful, then the bill will need to be brought out of committee and scheduled for consideration on the floor. I believe there is a waiting period of 30 days though before that can be done.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
76. Thank you so much, I am going to look at that
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:18 PM
Jan 2019

Congressional procedures really stump me, especially the Senate!

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
79. It's pretty fascinating actually
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:36 PM
Jan 2019

especially if you are someone who is familiar with "Robert's Rules of Order" (which delves deep into all the protocols used in legislative-type or other types of formal meetings).

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
22. This back and forth on . . .
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

the Senate floor should be put on a continuous loop for all to see, again and again and again.

So, when the question of who is responsible for the continuing shutdown? Everyone can see and hear for themselves, no filters, no explanations or excuses.

Tell our Federal employees face-to-face that legislation to reopen the government is a political stunt. I dare you, McTurtle!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. The longer trump and mc connell continue
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:55 PM
Jan 2019

The more republicans will be voted out of office, and trump has no shot at all getting elected again, and the Senate will easily be retaken by the Democrats , and he knows this now. His rally's and speeches wanting more money from donors is nothing more than he's fleecing them for his legal fees now, and for personal use to pay other bills with. He won't run again , but he won't tell his supporters that, ever because he needs the money.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
48. you overestimate the memory of the american public
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jan 2019

there isn't another vote for 22 months. the flibberdigibbets who comprise america's low-information voters will blame both sides by then - I already see it on FB.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
29. Kentucky is number 16 on the list of states
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jan 2019

most affected by the govt shutdown.

I'm sure the Kentucky Democratic Party is gleefully recording McConnell on the Senate floor refusing to re-open the federal government for use against him and his 2020 re-election campaign. Remember last year Kentucky teachers and others held big protests at their capitol to keep the state legislature from messing with their pensions. Even Kentucky is getting fed up with GOP-imposed "sacrifice".

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
42. McConnell knows no one will remember this in 2 years
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:50 PM
Jan 2019

and that if they do, he'll be able to blame it on anyone but himself. Why, he's powerless!

They'd better run Steve Beshear against him, because there's not many Dems on their bench.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
59. One would hope
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 07:43 PM
Jan 2019

I am not so sure. There will be multiple outrages between then and now, foremost being the failure of the GOP Senate to convict the Dotard in his Impeachment Trial.

This shutdown will be old news.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
63. I hope. I read that the ACA worked very well for them
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jan 2019

Yet at the same time they re-elected the Turtle whose goal was to eliminate it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
32. Time to buy ad time on TV
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jan 2019

NOT just the internet.

They have been running ads everywhere. Now we have a sound bite from McConnell saying that re-opening the government is not "important" enough for consideration.

MagickMuffin

(15,949 posts)
35. This lays the blame squarely on McConnell
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jan 2019

The Democrats are moving the goalposts in our direction.

"political stunts are not going to get us anywhere." Like the political stunt you pulled over and over and over again when Barack Obama was President???

Fork off McTurtle!!!

dalton99a

(81,543 posts)
37. Senate Majority Leader McConnell can't wipe his ass without the president's permission.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jan 2019

The rot is total and complete

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
39. He's up in 2020. Have we got someone who can viably challenge him?
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jan 2019

Enough already. If McConnell can't move unless Don says he can, he'd better be on the personal payroll. Maybe he can craft fake documents at the Trump golf course for a living.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
44. My thinking it's KY and you'll get a Republican no matter what.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jan 2019

You could have Jesus H. Christ (D) versus Lucifer Satan (R).... The Republican would win, aided by the votes from the Evangelical Xtians.

dlk

(11,574 posts)
41. Of Course McConnell Won't Permit a Vote - Just Think What the Kompromat Would Reveal if He Did
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 04:45 PM
Jan 2019

Putin's goal has always been to create chaos in the U. S. and his Republican stooges are helping him out.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,020 posts)
45. So. It is on McCONnell. Trump closed it & Republicans are keeping government closed.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:31 PM
Jan 2019

Trump & Republicans are one and the same.

Don't let ANYONE get away unchallenged saying Democrats are to blame.

Remember to remind people this is Trump's Christmas Shutdown. He is grinchy, he is mean, he shut it down days before christmas and it has been that long. He said he was proud to own it, before he tried blaming Democrats.

SunSeeker

(51,598 posts)
46. Just like he blocked a bipartisan statement on Russian meddling in June of 2016.
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 05:32 PM
Jan 2019

Just like he blocked Obama's Supreme Court nominee.

Just like he is blocking a bill to protect Mueller.

He is a fucking evil traitor.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
54. McConnell has forgotten about checks & balances
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jan 2019

and that Congress is a co-equal branch of government, not employees of the president.

Either that, or he's compromised.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
64. Yes, you have to wonder what the rule that the majority leader
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

can control the agenda does where the POTUS and the Majority leader agree.

Even if a majority of Senate Rethugs want the bill to come to the floor, they can't do anything about it?

That rule needs to be changed.

 

Liberalhammer

(576 posts)
56. Would any Rethugs challenge McConnell
Thu Jan 10, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jan 2019

I mean the pressure to open th e government will be at full pitch next week.
Even safe thugs are going to feel it because poor southern states leach off the federal government

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,383 posts)
66. Gutless GOP could stop Moscow Mitch
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:26 PM
Jan 2019

People need to call out the gutless GOP for allowing Mitch McConnell to aid and abet a known traitor.

They need to be in damage control and unseat their kompromat leader.

2020 is coming.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,383 posts)
68. the gutless GOP could force him to resign, or oust him
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:43 PM
Jan 2019

The majority leader is elected, and that can happen at any time the majority decide to do so. The Republican Caucus of the Senate could demand he step down and, if he refuses, vote for a new leader.

They are the Gutless GOP, though, and will not do anything unless told to do so by a higher authority such as the NRA, Putin, Trump, or the Koch brothers.

GUTLESS GOP should be what they hear everywhere they go.

CincyDem

(6,374 posts)
78. He wouldn't give a Dem President his rightful SCOTUS pick, now...
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jan 2019


...he won't give a Dem House a functioning government.

McConnell won't say it out lout but he's as committed (or more) to this shutdown than trump. It's his was of saying he's the gatekeeper of congress - not the Speaker of the House.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
80. It really makes you wonder who has what on McConnell. Is he Putin's BFF too like tRump.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jan 2019

If Hitler were president, I think he would support him too, blind allegiance. It's all getting really weird.

CincyDem

(6,374 posts)
81. Yeah - I agree that old Mitch has probably sold his soul 3 times over to several folks.
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jan 2019

And they're all coming home to collect their due.

Between him and his wife, I' sure it's at least the Russians and the Chinese. I'm sure any one of them can take him down...and he's a boy who loves him some power. I often through Frank Underwood was more cast after Mitch than anyone else in DC.




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