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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,035 posts)
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 10:03 PM Jan 2019

Avoid these foods during the government shutdown, experts warn

December 22 marked the beginning of a partial government shutdown sparked by a dispute between the president and congressional Democrats over funding for a border wall. As a result, an estimated 800,000 federal workers have gone unpaid. One of the nine affected departments is the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, responsible for making sure the food we eat is safe.

Due to the lack of funding, the FDA now lacks the ability to adequately publicize recalls, outbreaks and other information vital to human health. 2018 was full of major recalls ranging from romaine and eggs to yogurt and cake mix — all of which were announced by the FDA — and nobody knows when the shutdown will end, so how do we know what’s safe to eat?

To find out, we spoke with registered dietician, attorney, and CEO of TelaDietitian Jackie Arnett Elnahar, who specializes in weight loss and disease prevention, management and reversal. Until the FDA is able to monitor recalls and products more effectively, Elnahar says it’s important to steer clear of raw foods and processed meats because they’re prone to contamination. She also says to avoid romaine lettuce and sprouts such as alfalfa and broccoli. These vegetables are susceptible to E. coli.

“Ground beef should be avoided since it uses the meat of many different animals. Opt for bigger-piece meats that are less likely to be contaminated, such as steak,” Elnahar told The Daily Meal in an email. “It is also very important to eat less raw vegetables at this time and to cook more. Cooking foods thoroughly at 165 degrees Fahrenheit can kill E. coli, salmonella and listeria.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/avoid-these-foods-during-the-government-shutdown-experts-warn/ar-BBS7GWX?li=BBnb7Kz

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Avoid these foods during the government shutdown, experts warn (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 OP
Dear Goddess. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #1
In other words, pretend you're living in Mexico in the 1970's ... fierywoman Jan 2019 #2
Good thing I have a freezer full of meat. MissB Jan 2019 #3
In regards bdamomma Jan 2019 #4
If cooking kills the 'bad guys' in veggies, will freezing also work? Talitha Jan 2019 #5
What I do with lettuce is put it in a really concentrated salt water solution over night after Blue_true Jan 2019 #6
Thanks! Talitha Jan 2019 #8
No. MarvinGardens Jan 2019 #9
Some types of lettuce, and spinach essme Jan 2019 #7
This does not avoid the bacterial contamination, since in the case marybourg Jan 2019 #10
"Let then eat steak" SoCalDem Jan 2019 #11
"Larger cuts of meat such as..." Pot roast. Cheap cuts. Avoid hamburger at all costs.... Hekate Jan 2019 #13
I wait for london broils to go on sale SoCalDem Jan 2019 #15
Right you are Hekate Jan 2019 #16
I eat the same as I always eat.. Cha Jan 2019 #12
Not Romaine again! smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #14
yay Repugs -- roadkill safer than hamburger Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #17
I think government food inspections are spotty at best, so I'll probably carry on as usual with Vinca Jan 2019 #18

MissB

(15,810 posts)
3. Good thing I have a freezer full of meat.
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jan 2019

I was just thinking today how I should probably use it up until sometime after the shutdown ends.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
4. In regards
Fri Jan 11, 2019, 11:44 PM
Jan 2019

to the shutdown, who focused on shutting down these particular departments??? Was it this SOB tRump, or was it Stephen Miller??

Seems very suspicious, food, NSA agents which impair air travel, National Parks, IRS. Was this pre-mediated???

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. What I do with lettuce is put it in a really concentrated salt water solution over night after
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:05 AM
Jan 2019

rinsing dirt off of it. Then sometime before dinner the next day I remove it from the salt water solution, rinse it several times, then put it in fresh water and leave it over night. The final act is to remove it from the fresh water, do a quick rinse and then either use it, or put it in the cleaned crisper. Never have gotten sick. The system requires some planning, but that is ok, Listeria can kill a person.

Salt is deadly to all food toxin microbes. 8 plus hours in concentrated salt water kill them off enough for me to eat lettuce without worry. BTW, the lettuce is not salty, infact it is normal.

Talitha

(6,593 posts)
8. Thanks!
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jan 2019


I got 'un-lazy' and checked a few places online - it appears that freezing does NOT kill the bad stuff. Just the opposite, in fact.. it might help preserve them.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
9. No.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:42 AM
Jan 2019

Many microbes can survive freezing that cannot survive boiling.

Another poster on this thread mentioned soaking veggies in salt water. Never heard of that, but it sounds promising.

essme

(1,207 posts)
7. Some types of lettuce, and spinach
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jan 2019

are easy to grow in indoor boxes. Also, buying sprouts is a huge waste of money. Buy the seeds, and sprout your own.

Sprouting is easy with just an old jar, rubber band and some cheese cloth. You do not need a fancy, expensive setup.

marybourg

(12,633 posts)
10. This does not avoid the bacterial contamination, since in the case
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 12:49 AM
Jan 2019

of sprouts, the bacteria is in the seeds. I love sprouts, and always sprouted my own, but stopped doing this decades ago because of this problem.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
11. "Let then eat steak"
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:32 AM
Jan 2019

Most people have food in the freezer/cupboards, but that advice is a bit cheeky ..Steak is very expensive and not what people with no paychecks would gravitate to

Mac n cheese/ meatless chili/potatoes-carrots-cabbage/day old bread store bread / peanut butter & jelly sandwiches and of course, some help from friend who are not govt employees..

The real problem is rent/mortgages , car payments, credit card payments.. The food is not a big problem until the stored food is gone...and if no more paychecks come

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
13. "Larger cuts of meat such as..." Pot roast. Cheap cuts. Avoid hamburger at all costs....
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 01:59 AM
Jan 2019

Both my mother and mother in law (now both deceased) knew how to buy a hunk of inexpensive beef and slice little steaks off, chop some up for stew meat, and make a pot roast of the rest. My MIL, a butcher's daughter, used to select her own piece of beef if she wanted hamburger, and make the man behind the meat counter grind it in front of her own eyes.

As you can tell from my vocabulary, I never learned this skill. But I never buy hamburger.

Vinca

(50,278 posts)
18. I think government food inspections are spotty at best, so I'll probably carry on as usual with
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 08:08 AM
Jan 2019

the exception of romaine since it's been known to be contaminated recently.

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