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OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:37 PM Aug 2012

DEAR TODD (a most RIGHTEOUS RANT by a registered Republican woman)

I am a woman, a survivor of rape, and a registered Republican. You have issued an apology for the uneducated “off the cuff” remark you made where you stated “from what I understand from doctors, pregnancy [ as a result of rape] is really rare. If it is a legitimate rape, the female body has a ways to try shut that whole thing down.” Todd, I do not accept your apology!

The problem that goes to the core of this issue is that no matter what your apology says, you and your friends have left most of your more moderate members behind and traded us in for a very extreme view.

Number one, women have the right to determine what happens to their body and to not be raped, assaulted, or molested whether that is by a rapist or an elected official who thinks they have the right to dictate what she should do. You and your friends do not want government intrusion into your lives ONLY when it suits your beliefs – period!

You and your like-minded friends, who do not agree with the Affordable Care Act yell from the roof tops that personal religious freedoms are being infringed upon because it requires women to have access to birth control. What I find so interesting is those same people have no problem creating legislation that does just that to the women of this country. For example, have you forgotten Todd that little piece of legislation that you and GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan co-sponsored a bill called “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act,” a bill which, among other things, introduced the country to this bizarre term “forcible rape,” as if there is some other form of rape?


FULL LETTER HERE: http://www.unitewomen.info/unite-women-blog/dear-todd/

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DEAR TODD (a most RIGHTEOUS RANT by a registered Republican woman) (Original Post) OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 OP
My wife's a 3rd degree black belt. My three daughters all 2nd degree. I'm not too worried. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #1
I am glad they are trained in self defense, but please make sure they understand that if they cannot peacebird Aug 2012 #27
We've been through that a number of times. Open discussion is best in our opinions. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #34
I wouldn't rely too much on martial arts TrogL Aug 2012 #40
My wife was slipped a mickie one night. I got her out of there and dealt with her all the way home. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #43
Really, you're going to want to read this. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #2
He proves GOP men couldn't tell the difference between a vagina and a dumbwaiter Generic Other Aug 2012 #3
Yikes! There are Democrats that sponsored that bill! immoderate Aug 2012 #4
Yep. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #5
Great Letter.. femrap Aug 2012 #6
Might I suggest that it's a Mormon - Atheist ticket ... Ryan is a CINO cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #7
That doesn't make him an atheist MNBrewer Aug 2012 #14
Yes indeed he does. The gods koch and norquist, and MONEY. calimary Aug 2012 #16
Hard to read his heroine, Ms. Rand, cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #17
One can embrace parts of a philosphy... rexcat Aug 2012 #19
Cherry picker genxlib Aug 2012 #33
L femrap Aug 2012 #23
Ayn Rand? Appealing to the Progressive side?!!! *facepalm* Zalatix Aug 2012 #35
h femrap Aug 2012 #36
Ayn Rand was atheist and pro-choice because of raw selfishness. Zalatix Aug 2012 #37
ch femrap Aug 2012 #39
No, just Ayn Rand. Have a nice day! Zalatix Aug 2012 #41
He claims to be a Catholic and has repudiated Rand MNBrewer Aug 2012 #44
And what's so bad about Atheists? Taverner Aug 2012 #22
Uh, nothing. Where did you get "bad"? Projecting much? cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #28
Nice. Why is she still a registered republican? ecstatic Aug 2012 #8
Me, too. I'm spreading it far and wide. :) n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #9
The femrap Aug 2012 #25
I was one of those Republican women who left the party when Nixon came to power. cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #29
ou femrap Aug 2012 #31
I didn't realize this was a discussion in comparative atheism/ethics. cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #38
j femrap Aug 2012 #42
Elective Rape PossumSqueezins Aug 2012 #10
Well said and welcome to DU. nt classof56 Aug 2012 #13
Welcome to DU! Good post... OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #32
wtf is forceable rape? rape is rape. samsingh Aug 2012 #11
b femrap Aug 2012 #26
in his mind there is another kind of rape magical thyme Aug 2012 #12
This ^^^ Well said. n/t cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #18
Nice. Posted to my fb page. mnhtnbb Aug 2012 #15
And that is what pissed looks like! nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #20
K&R Wednesdays Aug 2012 #21
Good letter but I don't believe she's a Republican ibegurpard Aug 2012 #24
Most Republicans are talking in their proverbial sleep...for decades cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #30
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
1. My wife's a 3rd degree black belt. My three daughters all 2nd degree. I'm not too worried.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:44 PM
Aug 2012

If anyone tried to rape them, weapons or not, they'd be fully capable of killing the asshole. Rape is not something a woman invites. It never has been and never will be. And there's no "legitimate", "illegitimate", or other adjectives you can toss onto it - it is "RAPE".

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
27. I am glad they are trained in self defense, but please make sure they understand that if they cannot
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:39 PM
Aug 2012

stop a rapist, it is NOT their fault.

Sometimes it is just not possible to stop a rapist. But it is never the fault of the woman.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
40. I wouldn't rely too much on martial arts
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

There are lots of ways to be raped that don't require being physically overpowered eg. drugs.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
43. My wife was slipped a mickie one night. I got her out of there and dealt with her all the way home.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:10 PM
Aug 2012

It wasn't pretty. And yes, that's a major problem. But in a "legitimate rape", according to Akin, the rapist might just leave the scene missing a few gonads.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
3. He proves GOP men couldn't tell the difference between a vagina and a dumbwaiter
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:59 PM
Aug 2012

This is what our lack of straightforward sex education has done to this country. I am surprised doctors don't examine female patients under sheets or make them point on "medical" dolls where they hurt.

Then the physician can kill a chicken and sprinkle the blood on the woman. Or have her stoned for witchcraft.

That this so-called candidate thinks he is somehow qualified to legislate about women's health issues makes me livid.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
7. Might I suggest that it's a Mormon - Atheist ticket ... Ryan is a CINO
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

Don't get me wrong, a person's philosophy and/or religion does not disqualify them for our highest positions. But to think we owe any of them a Trust-Me vote, wrong.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
17. Hard to read his heroine, Ms. Rand,
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:27 PM
Aug 2012

and his effusive support and praise and evangelizing her book, and come up with a theist...of any kind? I'll stand by CINO, short of any other information...at least prior to 2 weeks or so.

Have you ... or anyone ... ever heard either he or Mitt end a speech with God Bless You and God Bless America? I could be wrong as I can't stomach them to the end, but it's just a sense I get.

rexcat

(3,622 posts)
19. One can embrace parts of a philosphy...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:55 PM
Aug 2012

and not the whole enchilada as I think Ryan has done with Ayn Rand.

Mr. Ryan is a right-wing catholic who does not believe in abortion for any reason, oral contraceptives or the IUD. Ayn Rand might have been a fruit case with respect to her political philosophy but she was definitely pro-choice and would have rejected Ryan's stance on abortion and his catholic beliefs.

You obviously are not well versed on Ayn Rand and want to denigrate the atheists of this country by stating that Paul Ryan is an atheist when it is clear that he is not.

genxlib

(5,542 posts)
33. Cherry picker
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:51 AM
Aug 2012

In other words, Ryan cherry picks his Rand philosophy the same way he cherry picks his Christian philosophy. It makes for a pretty toxic stew.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
35. Ayn Rand? Appealing to the Progressive side?!!! *facepalm*
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:46 AM
Aug 2012

Surest thou jest.

Her motivations are anything but Progressive. It is all based on a fanatical devotion to selfishness.

If you read Atlas Shrugged you saw the selfishness in that book. And the utter madness of his 70+ page manifesto, which again glorified absolute selfishness and utterly rejected any concept of altruism.

Edit: and I forgot to add that time-honored Progressive tradition... the part in which the protagonist engaged in an act of RAPE...

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
37. Ayn Rand was atheist and pro-choice because of raw selfishness.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:34 PM
Aug 2012

If you really read those stories you know quite well that this is one person you do not want in your camp.

Feel free not to read me again - you'll get absolutely no purchase among progressives by trying to sell her "atheist" and "pro-choice" views. We're smart enough to know she's little more than an albatross around the necks of anyone who ties her to their wagon.

ecstatic

(32,734 posts)
8. Nice. Why is she still a registered republican?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 01:47 PM
Aug 2012

at the very least, she should become independent. I hope this incident is opening the eyes of right leaning women in this country!

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
29. I was one of those Republican women who left the party when Nixon came to power.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:55 PM
Aug 2012

Welcome, younger sisters.

And Ayn Rand apologists ... yes, I read her way back when ... she's a nutcase, and that's putting it mildly.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
38. I didn't realize this was a discussion in comparative atheism/ethics.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 03:05 PM
Aug 2012

I don't get your point, sorry.

Lord of the Flies was entertaining and required reading, as well, and perhaps more to the point of today's Republican Party. I wonder which character is played out by Romney/Ryan/Akin?

PossumSqueezins

(184 posts)
10. Elective Rape
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:47 PM
Aug 2012

Todd Akin is just trying to reduce the incidence of rape in this country by informing women that when they electively decide to get raped, there will be consequences, like childbirth. Causes of elective rape include, but are not limited to: wearing provocative clothing, wearing make-up, being coquettish, having pheromones, wearing perfume, being in a room with a man other than her husband, wearing clothing, not wearing clothing, talking, walking, being out-of-doors without an escort, and being indoors without an escort.

Todd Akin has studied rape extensively(he holds a Doctorate in Rapology from University of Phoenix) and knows from his own experience at scout camp that it is usually the victim's fault. He never wore that lavender Speedo again.

And again, for clarification, where rare instances of forcible rape do occur, the chances of pregnancy is near zero. This is due to many hormonal changes in the physiology of the rapee. In forcible rape, the victim immediately secretes a special hormone in the brain which travels to the woman's naughty area/parts and prevents pregnancy. In elective rape, the woman's guilt prevents release of this hormone and pregnancy may result. In the case of children who become pregnant from molestation, the brain is not fully developed and can not manufacture the hormone. Mr. Akins strongly recommends that young girls abstain from molestation until they are at least 18 years of age.

We owe Representative Akin our debt of gratitude for attempting to educate the American public about rape and personal responsibility.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. in his mind there is another kind of rape
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
Aug 2012

The "she was asking for it" kind; the "she really wanted it" kind; the "she said no but really meant yes" kind; the "she's my wife/daughter/cousin, therefore I can do what I want" kind; the "well look at how she dressed" kind; and so on.

Apparently, if rape results in pregnancy, it wasn't "legitimate" rape. It was the "she was asking for it" kind. See how easy that is?

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
30. Most Republicans are talking in their proverbial sleep...for decades
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:08 PM
Aug 2012

centuries, even. I lived amongst them...now and for decades. Most are still elucidating on the significance of tennis shoe tracks near the dinosaur digs. True story. It's painful to watch.

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