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(17,313 posts)stayed in the CLOSET! The Gabbards that is, not the gay community.
hlthe2b
(102,327 posts)OnDoutside
(19,965 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)And not for how they acted under the direction of fundie parents years ago when most politicians didn't support gay marriage.
FreeState
(10,575 posts)She has done nothing since then other than support others bills - she needs to put the work in to reduce stigma and damage she cause LGBT persons- she hasnt done this because she relieves gay karate is wrong (personally). Shes still a bigot and this gay man will never vote for a bigot.
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)I only know that fundie parents can really fuck up a kids head. I wonder if she's fully deprogrammed yet. I consider Dick Cheney to be an bad person, but at least he acknowledges his daughters existence and feels for her like a parent should. I have watched fundies disown their gay child and to this day pretend they are dead or were never born. Fundies are the most disgusting creatures in this world.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)The Real Tulsi Gabbard
As Representative Tulsi Gabbards aunt, it gives me no pleasure to publicly air my doubts regarding my nieces political agenda, which Kelefa Sanneh describes in his Profile (Against the Tide, November 6th). However, I take my role as a citizen seriously, and I would be remiss not to share my concerns. Sanneh raises the issue of Gabbards lifelong immersion in the Science of Identity Foundation, an opaque religious organization that she and its founder, Chris Butler, have attempted to reframe as a resource. Gabbards answer to a basic question about Butler is troubling: despite calling him her guru dev (spiritual master) in her own promotional video, she denies that he is more important than any of her other teachers. She also has a notably mixed voting record, and associations that veer from certain progressive causes to the apparent courting of such strongmen as Narendra Modi, Bashar al-Assad, and Abdel Fattah el-Sisi (not to mention Trump)this zigzagging path through positions is vexing. Sannehs article walks the fine line of investigation and exposition in a way that points to shadows worthy of further illumination.
Caroline Sinavaiana Gabbard
Honolulu, Hawaii
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/20/letters-from-the-november-20-2017-issue/amp
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)The same age as Tulsi was in that video, I thought the Vietnam War was a good idea. As an adult, I have changed my mind.
Id vote for Tulsi.
Whos opposition research dug up that video?
obamanut2012
(26,092 posts)The video is from 2004, Gabbard is 37. Now, my degree is in History and not math, but 37 minus 14 or 15 is not 17.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)Tulsi was born in 1981, so she was 17 in 1998.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard
Cha
(297,454 posts)Link to tweet
Link to tweet
"Earlier in Gabbard's career, Jacobin reported that she was anti-choice and in favor of a constitutional amendment that defined marriage as between a man and a woman. She also argued that Democrats "should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists," per Jacobin.
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This shift in her views, however, was not enough to earn her an endorsement from Hawaii's LGBT Caucus. According to Maui Time Weekly, the caucus did not endorse Gabbard in her 2016 Congressional race, arguing that Gabbard still personally opposed same-sex marriage even if she abstained from taking political action on it. The caucus cited a 2015 interview that Gabbard had done with Ozy, in which she stated that she did not want to emulate a theocratic government imposing its will on its people.
https://www.bustle.com/p/tulsi-gabbards-lgbtq-views-have-reportedly-changed-over-time-but-many-say-thats-not-enough-15794044
Tarheel_Dem
(31,236 posts)position herself as some populist progressive, I would be concerned that she would be acting on behalf of foreign actors as opposed to our interests.
R B Garr
(16,966 posts)Creepy! Bizarre and creepy video. Who would do that, horrible.
Cha
(297,454 posts)Link to tweet
"Earlier in Gabbard's career, Jacobin reported that she was anti-choice and in favor of a constitutional amendment that defined marriage as between a man and a woman. She also argued that Democrats "should be representing the views of the people, not a small number of homosexual extremists," per Jacobin.
snip//
This shift in her views, however, was not enough to earn her an endorsement from Hawaii's LGBT Caucus. According to Maui Time Weekly, the caucus did not endorse Gabbard in her 2016 Congressional race, arguing that Gabbard still personally opposed same-sex marriage even if she abstained from taking political action on it. The caucus cited a 2015 interview that Gabbard had done with Ozy, in which she stated that she did not want to emulate a theocratic government imposing its will on its people.
https://www.bustle.com/p/tulsi-gabbards-lgbtq-views-have-reportedly-changed-over-time-but-many-say-thats-not-enough-15794044
She likes that word "extremely". Thank Goodness the LGBT coalition persevered in spite of those like Gabbard.
jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)How old was she in this video?