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Jason Leopold is the co-author of the Buzzfeed article everyone is talking about (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2019 OP
Making the RWer's case? berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #1
No - urging caution with respect to Jason Leopold oberliner Jan 2019 #5
I strongly disagree with you on this. Leopold is an award winning journalist berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #8
One story? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #41
The co-author is a Pulitzer Prize winner. Your hate of Leopold is noted. berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #44
Leopold is a fucking joke. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #45
That has never been verified berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #55
BTW, you're not urging caution, you're taking a cheap shot that a RWer would use. berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #14
Were you not a DUer during the "24 business hours" nonsense? oberliner Jan 2019 #19
Yes I was. And you're 100% wrong on any other point you've proffered here. berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #24
You seem to believe a 'stark reminder' denies 'a cheap shot.' LanternWaste Jan 2019 #30
Already have info on this manor321 Jan 2019 #17
It'd be great if another source can corroborate this reporting oberliner Jan 2019 #22
Like the co-author of the article? FSogol Jan 2019 #35
Who has said on TV that they have not seen the actual evidence. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #43
No, like a news outlet other than Buzzfeed - such as the NY Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC oberliner Jan 2019 #64
caution is good, but Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #27
After Fitzmas, it is perfectly reasonable to doubt anything Jason Leopold says hack89 Jan 2019 #7
On the contrary, one who's made such mistakes berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #11
Assuming they were normal rational people hack89 Jan 2019 #25
Did you do ANY research on the co-author? berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #40
My fingers are crossed. I want this to be true. nt hack89 Jan 2019 #54
It's like people want this to not be true. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #2
Do you remember Jason Leopold at all? oberliner Jan 2019 #6
I am familiar. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #15
The post was to remind people that he had a bombshell story before that we all hoped was true oberliner Jan 2019 #26
Now you are getting on track with your wording. NT WeekiWater Jan 2019 #28
So why didn't you put your concern in the original OP? Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #31
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #42
That's the one that has everyone saying Trumps finished? Autumn Jan 2019 #3
Yes, sadly oberliner Jan 2019 #12
Yeah, so would I. Thanks for the clarification, I saw a couple of posts about it but didn't Autumn Jan 2019 #38
Leopold overated, overstated his articles during "Fitzmas". I am somewhat skeptical of riversedge Jan 2019 #4
Yes, I am skeptical as well oberliner Jan 2019 #9
When I saw his name on the article last night I said--of crap. Not counting the riversedge Jan 2019 #23
Trump is done. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #10
I look forward to the NYT or WaPo or MSNBC or CNN corroborating the Jason Leopold story oberliner Jan 2019 #16
Yes. I also remember the Al Franken hubbub which was a hit job. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #18
Me too oberliner Jan 2019 #47
I saw that too! Blue Owl Jan 2019 #13
I agree with caution ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #20
SSDW FSogol Jan 2019 #21
Of course the other author of the story is not mentioned. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #29
Anthony Cormier, who won the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting. berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #36
Surely you remember the Merry Fitzmas era oberliner Jan 2019 #49
Surely you know that Mueller has already... LanternWaste Jan 2019 #52
I'm surprised by Leopold's reemergence. But his record in the Trump era is solid. 11cents Jan 2019 #32
No mention in the OP though. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #34
Leopold hasn't just re-emerged. He's been doing investigative reporting since Libby was indicted berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #37
Just looked at his Wikipedia page to see what awards he's won. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #50
Are you seriously asking this? Open your eyes then and READ the damn Wiki article... berni_mccoy Jan 2019 #53
My bad for missing that first paragraph. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #58
That's reason to be cautious, but it was his co-author... Chichiri Jan 2019 #33
Usually high placed sources have been confirming stories to a second news outlet grantcart Jan 2019 #39
So? Dennis Donovan Jan 2019 #46
Co-authur Anthony Cormier won the Pullitzer Prize. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #48
Thanks for posting emulatorloo Jan 2019 #51
I wouldn't dismiss the validity of the story because of some past issues with this author. honest.abe Jan 2019 #56
You'll never know what may have happened behind the scenes re Rove. allgood33 Jan 2019 #59
One corroborating news outlet is all I ask for oberliner Jan 2019 #62
At which point, the goalposts will be moved again... LanternWaste Jan 2019 #63
I've always enjoyed his work. He wouldn't dare lead us on again. Bonx Jan 2019 #57
Yeah - hopefully this one will be corroborated soon by some other sources oberliner Jan 2019 #60
unrec blogslut Jan 2019 #61
I'm sure you've received all the apologies via dumail? Since they aren't posted here. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #65
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. No - urging caution with respect to Jason Leopold
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jan 2019

Who burned many on DU during the Merry Fitzmas era.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
8. I strongly disagree with you on this. Leopold is an award winning journalist
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jan 2019

You're choosing to focus on one story that had factual basis and sourcing and ultimately wasn't far off the mark. Libby was indicted and convicted.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
41. One story?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jan 2019

How about the plagiarism?

Leopold is a fucking joke. Until a real journalist is on this, I'm being very cautious.

And he didn't say Libby was going to be indicted. He said Rove was. In 24 hours. We're still waiting.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
45. Leopold is a fucking joke.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019

Don't forget his plagiarism. https://archives.cjr.org/politics/jason_leopold_caught_sourceles.php

The other author has said in CNN that he has not seen the actual evidence. I'm going to wait until the actual evidence surfaces before jumping on this bandwagon.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
55. That has never been verified
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jan 2019

From the wiki article you cited below:

Salon removed the story from its website and said that Leopold had plagiarized text from the FT,[19] but the article remains in the Nexis archives.[20] Leopold said he had slightly misquoted the email, which should have read "Close a bigger deal. Hide the loss before the 1Q". White denied sending the email in a letter he sent to The New York Times, and when Salon's editors contacted Leopold's source, the source denied speaking to him.[18][20] The Village Voice reported, "Obviously, Leopold made mistakes, but it's not at all clear they justify a full repudiation of the story or a revocation of his journalistic license. As Paul Krugman told the Voice, 'Everything else in that story checked out. The substance of his reporting was entirely correct.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Were you not a DUer during the "24 business hours" nonsense?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:45 PM
Jan 2019

It's no cheap shot - it's a stark reminder of how Leopold burned a lot of us before.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. You seem to believe a 'stark reminder' denies 'a cheap shot.'
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jan 2019

While logic dictates they may each co-exist within the same statement.

"burned a lot of us..." indeed.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
17. Already have info on this
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:43 PM
Jan 2019

We ALREADY have info from official reports (Mueller or NY) that Cohen coordinated his false opening statement to Congress. This story just adds the obvious that it was Trump directed, which of course it is.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
43. Who has said on TV that they have not seen the actual evidence.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jan 2019

No other news network has been able to verify this. With Leopold on the article, I'm waiting for the real journalists to chime in.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
64. No, like a news outlet other than Buzzfeed - such as the NY Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 07:03 PM
Jan 2019

And so on.

A second news outlet corroborating this story would go a long way.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,438 posts)
27. caution is good, but
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

It is reasonable to be cautious about uncorroborated reports.

However, we do not need a "bombshell" report to tells us Trump has engaged in witness tampering and obstruction of justice.

Example:

Trump’s latest tweets cross clear lines, experts say: Obstruction of justice and witness tampering

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. After Fitzmas, it is perfectly reasonable to doubt anything Jason Leopold says
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jan 2019

The man has a troubled history as person and as a journalist - he likes to make shit up.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
11. On the contrary, one who's made such mistakes
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

is much less likely to repeat them if they were able to survive it.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
40. Did you do ANY research on the co-author?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jan 2019

Take a look at him or look down the posts in the list to find out more.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
2. It's like people want this to not be true.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jan 2019

Concerted effort to discredit the source. It's Trump Theory when dealing with the media or anything negative.

What you are doing is not taking it with a grain of salt. You are attempting to discredit the story.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Do you remember Jason Leopold at all?
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jan 2019

He fell out of favor here pretty quickly after his Truthout days.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
15. I am familiar.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jan 2019

I'm also familiar with the tactic you deployed in your op. It's not a "take it with a grain of salt" tactic.

I'm not concerned if he is "in favor" or "out of favor" with DU. Your wording here is a continuation of the tactic used in the op.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. The post was to remind people that he had a bombshell story before that we all hoped was true
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

But turned out not to be. So proceed with caution (as many of us failed to do last time Leopold had a scoop like this).

Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #31)

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
38. Yeah, so would I. Thanks for the clarification, I saw a couple of posts about it but didn't
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:52 PM
Jan 2019

realize he was part of it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Yes, I am skeptical as well
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

His past history is a bit checkered when it comes to breaking stories that no other source can corroborate.

riversedge

(70,306 posts)
23. When I saw his name on the article last night I said--of crap. Not counting the
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:45 PM
Jan 2019

chicks yet--as much as I really want this story to be true.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. I look forward to the NYT or WaPo or MSNBC or CNN corroborating the Jason Leopold story
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jan 2019

Do you remember Jason Leopold from the Fitzmas days?

Blue Owl

(50,507 posts)
13. I saw that too!
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

And yes I remember all the disappointing hubub with Fitzmas.

Hoping this time, Leopold might redeem himself. But not banking on it...

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
36. Anthony Cormier, who won the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Reporting.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jan 2019

People here are so damn jaded.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
52. Surely you know that Mueller has already...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:13 PM
Jan 2019

Surely you know that Mueller has already indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 33 people and three companies that we know of.

(I s'pose responding to one spurious correlation with another is valid...)

11cents

(1,777 posts)
32. I'm surprised by Leopold's reemergence. But his record in the Trump era is solid.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jan 2019

This isn't the first Trump/Russia-related story that he's co-reported. He didn't magically reappear just yesterday; his byline has been on several important Trump stories before this. To date they've all held up.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
37. Leopold hasn't just re-emerged. He's been doing investigative reporting since Libby was indicted
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jan 2019

And he's won awards for it.

The OP is just so damn wrong.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
50. Just looked at his Wikipedia page to see what awards he's won.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jan 2019

They list one award in 2008.

What awards has he won since Libby was indicted?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
53. Are you seriously asking this? Open your eyes then and READ the damn Wiki article...
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:21 PM
Jan 2019

In 2008, Leopold received the Thomas Jefferson Award from the Military Religious Freedom Foundation.

The recipient of the 2016 FOI Award from Investigative Reporters and Editors

Tom Renner Award in 2018 from Investigative Reporters and Editors

Member of the team named a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in international reporting (2018)

Leopold was inducted into the National Freedom of Information Hall of Fame by the Newseum Institute in 2016.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
58. My bad for missing that first paragraph.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jan 2019

I'm grading finals and just taking a break once in a while to clear the trance/cobwebs. I skimmed through the first paragraph assuming the awards would be in chronological order. My bad.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. Usually high placed sources have been confirming stories to a second news outlet
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jan 2019

That absence is troubling.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
56. I wouldn't dismiss the validity of the story because of some past issues with this author.
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jan 2019

For one he is not the only author. Also, this guy has some credible reporting in the past. Yes, he has made a couple of mistakes but most of his reporting has been solid. I think he has been a bit too aggressive at times and has been burned for that. This story though reeks of truth. I think its real.

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