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BOOM (Original Post) Soph0571 Jan 2019 OP
Ba da bing, ba da boom Achilleaze Jan 2019 #1
This 👆🏼 UpInArms Jan 2019 #2
Yes, it says we shall always be stuck in an oppositional politics DemocracyMouse Jan 2019 #13
K&R! plus a great reply from DemocracyMouse Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2019 #24
Excellent empedocles Jan 2019 #3
K & R mountain grammy Jan 2019 #4
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #5
These assholes are so dishonest they tell people that "socialism" equates a "Marxist regime." catbyte Jan 2019 #6
This is always my first thought. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #9
Puts it to the point. They'd come back a changed person, still capitalist but enlightened. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2019 #7
Socialist aren't Marxists, you stupid, fucking ass... paleotn Jan 2019 #8
THANK YOU Ferrets are Cool Jan 2019 #10
And another BOOM sarge43 Jan 2019 #12
Gorgeous! Ruby the Liberal Jan 2019 #11
Charlie, get out of your moms basement, stop playing NoMoreRepugs Jan 2019 #14
BURN ! California_Republic Jan 2019 #15
All democracies have elements of socialism ingrained in them patphil Jan 2019 #16
I agree with both, the problem is that what repubs call socialism Perseus Jan 2019 #17
OK, I'll move to Denmark. backscatter712 Jan 2019 #18
Just a point: The Democratic Party is not socialist. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #19
Shaka-laka Iggo Jan 2019 #20
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Jan 2019 #21
SUPERB! calimary Jan 2019 #22
Bet Shitbag Charlie will be there to collect his SS check and get his Medicare. roamer65 Jan 2019 #23

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
13. Yes, it says we shall always be stuck in an oppositional politics
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:18 AM
Jan 2019

Can we stop the capitalism VS socialism thing?

Let’s innovate!

I like the new model where REGENERATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE is at the core of every democracy (and includes a constitution, courts, elections, wind/solar grid regulations, mass transit, affordable college tuition, net neutrality, trust-busting, etc.), and a CIVIC FREE ENTERPRISE circles the former.

catbyte

(34,459 posts)
6. These assholes are so dishonest they tell people that "socialism" equates a "Marxist regime."
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:11 AM
Jan 2019

Yeah, I'd love to live under those "Marxist" hellholes of Denmark, Sweden, Norway & Finland for 6 months. Or forever.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
8. Socialist aren't Marxists, you stupid, fucking ass...
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jan 2019

No more than all capitalists are brown shirted fascists. All it takes is a few clicks on the google, along with 6th grade reading comprehension. Of course, that might take the energy necessary to fire a few neurons. Too much to ask I guess.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,474 posts)
14. Charlie, get out of your moms basement, stop playing
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jan 2019

video games and read some books. Marxism, socialism, they are two different things. Press your khakis, iron your white shirt and go join the HUMAN race.


PS.... howz it feel getting obliterated by a 20 word reply????

patphil

(6,218 posts)
16. All democracies have elements of socialism ingrained in them
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jan 2019

It comes with the understanding that we are all in this together.
A democracy is a cooperative venture of a large group of people that, by its very nature, is concerned about the welfare of all of its citizens.
Marxism is not socialistic. It is a dictatorship of a small, privileged group that falsely claims to stand for the good of all, while curtailing personal freedom in favor of maintaining the rigid ideology of the Marxist dogma.
Democracies, on the other hand, are socialistic in nature. There is an inherent belief that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and that we have a responsibility to help each other to sustain what we have.
We are stronger when we stand together...all of us together.
In that combined strength is a willingness to allow people to be who they are, and an understanding that it is our diversity that is our strength.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
17. I agree with both, the problem is that what repubs call socialism
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

is not socialism, true socialism is just a theory that doesn't exist anywhere in the world, what does exist is social-democratic regimes that create an almost perfect balance as many European countries have demonstrated.

Every communist (dictatorship) regime starts with socialist rhetoric, once the "socialists" get to power it immediately moves to a communist-dictatorship that includes repression, corruption at the highest levels, the elimination of the middle class, anyway...look at Russia, at Venezuela, at Cuba, that is where "socialism" ends, in a perverse dictatorship that resembles more the Nazi regime of Hitler, than anything else.

And that is why I responded to many people, here in DU, when they used to defend Hugo Chavez, to move to Venezuela for just a couple of weeks to experience firsthand for themselves the regime, and if they were able to come back alive, then to tell us about it.

Now, should people spend six months in one of the social-democratic countries in Europe? Most definitely!

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
18. OK, I'll move to Denmark.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jan 2019

Higher taxes, more government services, much more socialist, and one of the happiest countries in the world!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. Just a point: The Democratic Party is not socialist.
Sat Jan 19, 2019, 10:12 PM
Jan 2019

It believes the few social programs the country has, as a safety net in our capitalist economy. But it's not socialist.

Don't let them get away with portraying the Democratic Party that way. It's a whistle call.

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