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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:55 PM Aug 2012

It's this simple - if Akin stays in the race the dems will keep the senate

The senate is awfully tight right now and for the last couple of weeks Electoral Vote.com has shown that Missouri would go republican.

GOP needs Missouri if they are to retake the senate.

Right now the Senate if 53-47. The 2 Independents, Bernie Sanders and Joe Lieberman, side with the Democrats. Lieberman is retiring and it looks pretty likely that Angus King will win up in Maine since the democrats aren't putting any strong candidate to run in that election (It seems to be a Bernie Sanders situation and King is progressive). We will probably win Lieberman's seat and pick up Massachusetts. That will put us up 55-45. (assuming that Sanders and King will both side with the democrats)

HOWEVER

Right Electoral Votes.com has the GOP picking up 5 seats including Missouri (polls are from before the boffo comment) - states include MO MT NE ND WI. If that happens we're at 50-50 which means Biden would be the tiebreaker (provided that Obama wins). But the GOP may remind the dems that after the 2000 senate tie of 50-50 they shared power with the democrats (until Jeffords defected).

Mind you we have really tight races in Virginia (right now Kaine is slightly ahead) and practically tied in Arizona.

Thing is this - GOP saw Missouri as a strong win for them to regain the senate. If Akin stays in the race they probably will not regain the senate.

Mind you this is 3 months before the election so alot can change until then.

But you better believe that right now the powers to be in the GOP want Akin out so they can salvage Missouri and distance Paul Ryan from the awful personhood bill that he co-authored with Akin.

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It's this simple - if Akin stays in the race the dems will keep the senate (Original Post) LynneSin Aug 2012 OP
Akin is leading in the polls. I can't see Missouri GOP voters dropping him. He is saying what AlinPA Aug 2012 #1
Is, or was? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #2
Those polls were done before his dumbass comment (Done on Aug 12) LynneSin Aug 2012 #4
Those polls were taken BEFORE his screw up. n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #5
I live in Missouri. xmas74 Aug 2012 #6
Thanks. Good information. AlinPA Aug 2012 #7
Check out another one of my posts in this thread. xmas74 Aug 2012 #15
Hopefully this screwed him with the women voters. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #11
You're welcome. xmas74 Aug 2012 #14
Claire should win this race. xmas74 Aug 2012 #3
50-50 only if we lose in Fl and he's ahead of Connie Mack now. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2012 #8
Electoral Votes should be beginning to analyze why their projections are wrong Panasonic Aug 2012 #9
I'll take some of what you're smoking! tritsofme Aug 2012 #12
Lieberman already caucuses with Dems, so no net gain from holding the seat. tritsofme Aug 2012 #10
Damage done DearAbby Aug 2012 #13
The Virginia seat is in question too MiniMe Aug 2012 #16

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
1. Akin is leading in the polls. I can't see Missouri GOP voters dropping him. He is saying what
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:01 PM
Aug 2012

they want to hear.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
4. Those polls were done before his dumbass comment (Done on Aug 12)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:07 PM
Aug 2012

And it was a poll that tends to lead towards republicans.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
6. I live in Missouri.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:12 PM
Aug 2012

The poll was done right after the primary, when he was bound to be riding high. It was also a poll that leaned Republican-and everyone knew it. Few in this state actually put any kind of belief in the poll, knowing how it was done.

This poll was done before it was public knowledge that he compared students grants and loans to "stage three cancer". It was done before it was public knowledge that he wanted an end to free and reduced school lunches for poor students because "government shouldn't be in the education business." It was done before the public knew that he wanted to end all forms of Medicare because "government shouldn't be in health care." And it was done before he ever made a single comment about rape.

The student loan comments screwed him with college age students. The school lunches screwed him with the poorer members of the GOP base who qualify for the service otherwise. And the Medicare comments screwed him with the senior crowd.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
15. Check out another one of my posts in this thread.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:49 PM
Aug 2012

It has Claire's commercial about "student loans/stage three cancer" comments made by Akin. The commercial was released on Aug 14-two days after the poll was released.

She's actually doing a decent job and I think the polls will reflect it.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
11. Hopefully this screwed him with the women voters.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:41 PM
Aug 2012

Great information. I didn't know any of that except the school lunches.

Thank you for sharing it here.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
14. You're welcome.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:47 PM
Aug 2012

And Claire is currently beating the student loan info over the voters heads. That commercial started some time last week, right after the initial polls were released. Every couple of hours you get to hear Todd Akin, deserving Missouri students, student loans, and "stage three cancer" in a commercial.

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Just wait until the new commercial comes out!

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
3. Claire should win this race.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:07 PM
Aug 2012

Maybe she won't be criticized so much here on DU if she does.

Anyway, Akin staying in will draw out the independents here in Missouri. A number of them are disgusted with him and are starting to talk about how disturbing Paul Ryan is to them. Let's hope that holds up and that the Repubs will also lose some of the House seats. Fourth District went red in 2010 for the first time in over 50 years. If Akin stays and makes a fool of himself this could be bad for Vicky Hartzler and really good for Teresa Hensley. (At least I hope-the Fourth is my district.)

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
9. Electoral Votes should be beginning to analyze why their projections are wrong
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:38 PM
Aug 2012

and all 10 Republican seats are the ones that are in extreme danger.

MT, NE, WI and MO are now holds for Democrats.

The only real tossup is ND - and that's because it's so goddamn conservative that it might just throw an afterbirth just to say that it opposes abortion.

But let's take at the 10 seats that are seemingly "safe" for Republicans:

AZ - Jon Kyl - retiring - the Democrat better be kicking ass and putting every single Arizona's problems against Jan Brewer and her obtructionist policy. Easy enough to pick up if done right.

IN - Richard Lugar - The R candidate is Mourdock, and he is supposed to be an extreme or ideologically identical to Akins and Ryan. Slap a label on him and blare it on TV constantly - Red state suddenly becomes purple because of the digust of the Republicans.

TX - Yet another teabagger Republican that may be ideologically identical to Akins and Ryan - just slap the old extremist label on him, and he's done for.

MA - Brownie is history - Warren will wipe him down easily.

MS - Can we get rid of Wicker yet? Another deadwood Republican.

NV - Didn't I hear that Dean Heller is so full of scandal himself, he was supposed to resign, and didn't do so? Why should Akin do the same? Thusly, Heller should be thrown out with Reid's help.

Lost causes: Corker, Barrasso and Hatch. They should be reassigned to a committee that is irrelevant to anything that they want to bring pork home for, and in a miserable position that's so bad that they decide to resign and beg that Democrats replace them.

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
12. I'll take some of what you're smoking!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:41 PM
Aug 2012

It sounds like a nice world over there, I would love to visit some time. I know the multiverse theory has been in the news lately, didn't realize DU enabled cross-posting.

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
10. Lieberman already caucuses with Dems, so no net gain from holding the seat.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:39 PM
Aug 2012

And there are lot of other seats up for grab seats, but the larger point is right, Akin puts a huge hole through the GOP's plans to take the Senate.

MiniMe

(21,717 posts)
16. The Virginia seat is in question too
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 11:55 PM
Aug 2012

KKarl Rove's group is supporting George Allen, it was his seat before his macaca comment 6 years ago. And Crossroads is hammering Tim Kaine. Interesting that they hammer Kaine and never mention Allen.

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