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Mike Huckabee Would Like to Remind You That Rape Has Created Some Extraordinary People
John Cook
Why is everybody so down on rape? This is what Mike Huckabee wanted to know today, on his radio program, which also featured Rep. Todd "Legitimate Rape" Akin as a guest. For instance, did you know that Ethel Waters was conceived when her mother got raped? Do you know what a world without rape would look like? A world without Ethel Waters, that's what.
This is what Mike Huckabee said today, as transcribed by the Los Angeles Times' James Rainey, about the upside of being raped and then getting pregnant:
"Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape," Huckabee said of the late American gospel singer. One-time presidential candidate Huckabee added: "I used to work for James Robison back in the 1970s, he leads a large Christian organization. He, himself, was the result of a forcible rape. And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things."
http://gawker.com/5936386/mike-huckabee-would-like-to-remind-you-that-rape-has-created-some-extraordinary-people
niyad
(113,348 posts)and, of course, notice the use of the term "forcible rape"
arcane1
(38,613 posts)I'm confused, Mike!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)spanone
(135,844 posts)you are a shameless POS
Keep digging, boys- the "forcible rape" thing aught to play well.
We're now supposed to evaluate rapes based on what criteria? Some are more acceptable than others?
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)What a fucking douchebag.
FUCK HIM.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Don't want to deprive the world of the next James Robison, now do ya?
turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)Well am sure Ethel Water's Mom felt differently about being raped.
Off the edge, over the cliff, but I guess it figures considering.
"Just the good ole boys, never meanin' no harm."
jsr
(7,712 posts)Give them a medal already.
budkin
(6,703 posts)...
niyad
(113,348 posts)afraid to walk certain streets, would not have to be afraid of date rape drugs, that strange man behind her, the man who enters her home intent on harm. but we cannot have that, can we?
no, for the sake of ethel waters, we MUST have rape. you are one sick, twisted fucker, mikey.
I am reminded of a young woman who spoke at a roe v wade rally in sacramento years ago. there were the usual woman-hating anti-choicers around the rally. she pointed at them and said, "I am the woman that those people say had to be born as a product of rape. I am here to tell you that I hate each and every one of them. My life has been nothing but a misery."
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I'm sorry they say so many stupid things, I can't keep track.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I swear to god, every time I think they could be an more hateful or offensive, one of these dumb fucks outdoes the last dumbfuck. It's really kind of impressive, in a way.
knitter4democracy
(14,350 posts)Rape is forcible by definition, fuckwit. Huckabee, you and Akin are wastes of skin if you think all rape isn't forcible.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)Normally I'm opposed to violence against another human being, but I think the Right Rev. Mr. Huckabee just forfeited his right to that protection.
Hatchling
(2,323 posts)I would like to kick him in the nuts. I'll show him what forcible is.
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)been saying these really stupid things. On some perverse level they really want to justify rape. Maybe they've had the urge or have tried to force themselves on women (not THAT big a deal, right?). Or of course, many of them just don't respect women.
I wonder how these men would feel if it was their daughters who were raped. Would they be so casual about their attitudes toward sexual assault?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Naturally, although he voted against aborion even in case of the health of the mother, his wife's own abortion was different. it always is...
http://crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/santorum-rape-babies-are-gifts-god
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/249918_Rick_Santorum_authorized_a_par
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)it wouldn't be right to leave those children without a mother, but other women's children are shit out of luck. Damn hypocrites! I've lived with these archaic attitudes my entire life, but I thought we'd finally evolved. If these assholes think they're going to drag women back to the 19th century, they'd better prepare for World War III.
I'll never go BACK and I won't allow my children to either.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Sometimes it takes me a while, but the pieces have finally slid into place. Like a lot of others, I have been mistakenly thinking that the GOPs legislative campaign against women is about domination or subversion or repression or some other kind of man-woman conflict. Its not at all. It is about dehumanization: the puppet party of business seeking dominion over the population by controlling our reproduction.
Consider that the ideal environment for multinational corporations is pretty much the opposite of what benefits humans:
Corporations would like to drive down the worldwide cost of human capital in order to own and manage a world economy. We have already seen how this is accomplished. On the production side, corporations play leapfrog, moving factories from country to country based on marginal labor savings. On the revenue side, they drain the private assets of countries whose citizens still have money. With no resources, the citizens are ripe to be exploited as the next labor force...
More at the link:
http://www.politicususa.com/the-gop-agenda-controlling-the-means-of-reproduction.html
Controlling the Means of Reproduction: An Interview with Michelle Goldberg
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/9629
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)They gain a little ground with their base and they don't know when to stop. They just have to push it a little farther and then a bit more, until it blows up their faces. They think people have forgotten. It was so long ago and people are so complacent and self-centered now, they won't notice too much.
Perhaps it is "dehumanization" or maybe its arrogance or flat out stupidity, but people haven't forgotten. They just started to take things for granted, got a little lazy, but it doesn't take much to refresh their memories. Women's rights and civil rights were hard fought battles, and republicans seem to want to reignite them! I think they'll wish they hadn't.
Thanks for letting me vent!!!
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)tjwash
(8,219 posts)...along comes a recent contender for the republican presidential nomination to remind everyone that - no, this is really how they think.
Good luck with the whole getting-elected thing there now mittens.
Lucy Goosey
(2,940 posts)...I fully support his right to choose to carry the pregnancy to term. Why does he think he needs to make my choice for me? (Especially given the fact that, well, IT CAN'T HAPPEN TO HIM and it could happen to me?)
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Ever been raped asshole? There is no upside. There's no such thing as "legitimate" rape. Rape is a crime of violence. Period. There's no super powers in my womb. There's no legitimizing a violent act against me, or any other person. If I so choose to remove a physical result from my body, a result of said act of violence, that's not something government should have any say over.
These people are beyond mentally deranged. There's no excuse for their thought process.
And, the vice presidential candidate is one of them. That's disgusting. New all time low for the Republican party.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)definition.
It is like saying "suffocating strangulation", is there any strangulation that does not suffocate, or any rape that is not forced?
Second of all, he is using a false argument, he is implying that the fruit of something bad can be at times possibly good and therefore the bad should be allowed for the rare good that may possibly inadvertently happen as a result of the bad, the argument negates itself in this specific use as soon as one produces examples of undesirable people that have been conceived inadvertently as the result of similar evil actions.
The real problem with his argument however, is that it uses two imaginary axioms to arrive at his conclusion, one is that there is some reason to consider weighing the potential good of an evil action to begin with, what is a reasonable example of this assumption?
Do we consider if a murderer should be allowed to murder because he MAY perchance kill an evil worse than himself? of course not, so why does he consider it self evident that such potentials are even part of the discussion?
The second false axiom is his assumption that anyone but the raped women should have any opinion whatsoever about what she feels she should or should not do about it.
If this man is considered an intelligent commentator then we are already living in an Idiocracy.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)ann---
(1,933 posts)WOMAN who is actually defending Akin with an article that says NOTHING about a woman being able to PREVENT pregnancy during a rape (or repeated rapes). this is unbelievable. She must really hate herself....check out this post on a "Religion and Ethics" BBS.
http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=227735;article=431875;title=Civilized%20Personal%20Discussion
ConnieSue
I don't disagree with Todd Akin, he is making a legitimate
Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:37pm
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response. I think it's been a media too quick to jump that doesn't understand such a sensitive subject and unless you have been a victim of rape, you are outside the circle to understand such a complex and horrible situation. Here's a point of view that Mr Akin may have been trying to make had he been given the time....
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)Where they assist Women in their innate desire to produce superior progeny by very helpfully raping them in the most violent and degrading way possible.
What's that? Your son is a brilliant musician and got an A+ in calculus? There you go ladies! Just another service brought to you by the Republican Rape Club. You're Welcome!
Initech
(100,081 posts)There's no justification for what he did. There's no justification for rape. PERIOD. End of story. The more you open your mouth and try to justify this, the more you shoot yourself in the foot. Shut the fuck up Republicans - Akin, Huckabee, etc. Shut up. Now.
_Liann_
(377 posts)Tubby David Huckabee, middle-rear, dog torture and killer of vulnerable stray animal. Everybody is smiling but the dog being firmly held for post-photo entertainment.
Tubby David Huckabee mug shot after arrest for carrying gun in airport.
David Huckabee enjoying a traditional Christian Chick-Fil-A sandwich
GObamaGO
(665 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)A bumper sticker one never sees.
If everyone born is such a fricking miracle, why do these swine incarcerate them at such a high rate?
Hell, everyone they execute is a fricking miracle, right?