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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAnother CovCath tape from last week emerges: "It's not rape if you enjoy it."
Amee Vanderpool @girlsreallyrule
9:28 AM - Jan 22, 2019
Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!" Good luck spinning this one...
9:28 AM - Jan 22, 2019
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gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)private school fuckers
get the red out
(13,468 posts)Demit
(11,238 posts)Botany
(70,582 posts)Covington is a suburb of Cincinnati .... across the Ohio River.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I'd be a lot more confident in spreading this video if there were conclusive proof they were the same kids, like a face that's in both videos.
George II
(67,782 posts).....only two miles from the Bengals' stadium. How many Cincinnati area high schools sent students to the Washington rally?
Demit
(11,238 posts)N/T
Demit
(11,238 posts)Just fyi, there were kids from at least one other private catholic high school in Kentucky who attended the march, Owensboro Catholic High School. And it's co-ed (unlike Covington) which could explain the girls standing nearby.
I'm not asserting anything, btw. I'm just cautioning against jumping to conclusions. The kid is a creep either way.
Here's a piece about one of the Owensboro kids:
https://www.owensborotimes.com/news/2019/01/catholic-schools-under-fire-for-comments-at-indigenous-peoples-march-school-officials-father-respond/
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Cincinnati isn't a tiny town. There are 22 school districts in Hamilton County alone - which doesn't even include Northern Kentucky.
FWIW, folks from N.KY don't consider themselves Cincinnati residents. When I grew up in Cincinnati, N.Ky was no different than any other city that wasn't Cincinnati. It was considered a different place with a different culture and accent even.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)wcollar
(176 posts)I expect they heard it from their priests.
Fuzzpope
(602 posts)PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)And comment on what they hear and from whom.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Apparently by members of the Black Israelite group.
They also say that the white students are going to harvest the black student's organs - or something along those lines.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I hope they are not continuing to harass people in this way.
If so, there should be a movement by progressives to bring attention to such abhorrent behavior.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)would have been to completely ignore them. They got major attention, exactly what they were looking for.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)And let us know how it goes.
The change you seek can begin with simply one person. Even you...
As you yourself wrote on this very subject: "Why not give them a piece of your mind? Hatred and bigotry needs to be challenged."
it would be a real bummer if you thought yourself exempt from that.
PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)here's an article from 2008 --> https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2008/racist-black-hebrew-israelites-becoming-more-militant
Both groups (the KKKids and the BI) are bigots in my book.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)"Balls-on accurate" to quote Marisa Tomei. They are evil.
PunkinPi
(4,878 posts)Hope you and yours are doing well -- sending hugs.
Duppers
(28,127 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,043 posts)obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)Alpeduez21
(1,755 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2019, 02:37 PM - Edit history (2)
Well, technically, if its pleasurable to the woman...
Same poster who comes here to play Debbie Downer anytime Trump has a bad day. Same poster who has been hyper skeptical about Phillips version of the incident. The same poster who just doesnt see the obvious black face at Covington games.
UPDATE: Right on cue!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)ffr
(22,671 posts)Future domestic violence perpetrators.
rainin
(3,011 posts)Are we talking about an adult and a child or two consenting adults? Are we talking about a boss and a subordinate or two teenage kids? If we're talking about equal individuals, am I being raped if I enjoy it? What does this even mean?
I'm just asking about what the comment means -- not the OBVIOUS INAPPROPRIATENESS of saying something like that out loud.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Mariana
(14,860 posts)that she'll be grateful he did it, and therefore won't think of it as rape. That's what it means.
Hassler
(3,390 posts)IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)or to run for president as a Republican
akraven
(1,975 posts)robleb
(162 posts)School for deplorables.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)People should watch that full video.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11698251
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)Docreed2003
(16,875 posts)Demit
(11,238 posts)evangelical. And they certainly weren't menacing in any way. In fact, if you stick it out to the end (ugh, that's 33 minutes of my life I'll never get back) you see the preacher stop ranting & actually engage with a second group of Catholic kids (they have "Hope" on their sweatshirts) in a discussion of the 10 commandments and the role of religious statues in a Catholic Church. Their point of view is still extreme, but everyone is speaking in a normal voice.
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)The poster above has been attempting to make the case the BHI folks are completely to blame and the Covington kids are being persecuted. Classic deflection technique. It seems like they think nobody notices.
Demit
(11,238 posts)if you ever go downtown in a big city you're familiar with kooks that set up on a corner & deliver their spiel at passersby. It's background noise. You pause if you want to listen to them and walk past them if you're not interested.
These guys did not budge from one spot. The kids began gathering around them. At some point they started to move in closer. The video is being shot by one of the Black Isrealites I think, and it shows people gathering to stand in back of them. The Covington kids start out listening, then later start getting rambunctious...one of them strips down to his shorts and leads the rest in a cheer, maybe their school cheer?... at one point there's a black kid with them...the preacher says "ah, the token" and addresses him a couple of times (this is when he uses the word "nigga" and do I really have to point out that black guys use this terminology with one another all the time? It's, like, an in-group thing? White people don't have any business being offended by the practice).
Sorry to ramble. No, the BHI were not to blame in any way. They were just doing what they do. The kids chose to engage.
nclib
(1,013 posts)And did they ask their chaperons first?
progressoid
(49,999 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)That's not the Catholicism I was raised with.
sfwriter
(3,032 posts)I hated deplorable people like this since I was their age.
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Demit
(11,238 posts)vis-a-vis Westboro Church haranguers at a funeral? Or anti-abortionists' rants at women going into a Planned Parenthood clinic? More deplorable? Less? About even?
sfwriter
(3,032 posts)Last edited Tue Jan 22, 2019, 09:04 PM - Edit history (1)
These CovCath kids just decided to air their own ignorance and privilege and whatever "adult" supervision was there allowed it. From what we are learning about them, that privilege runs deep and was not just a response to BI. We are learning they have a history of such offenses and that speaks volumes about the permissive diocese that allows such racism to fester.
I don't find the BI to be in any way credible, so I am far less offended by them. They are dismissible in their ignorance, say, garden variety deplorable. These CovCath kids are going to the white house to be hailed as rightwing heroes for their actions. That is about as privileged and ugly as it gets, truly "basket-grade," Trump era, post-kavenaugh deplorable.
Nitram
(22,879 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)They are growing up following in the skeazey footsteps of Comrade Dirty Donny, the deceitful and ignoble republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)sad
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)has poisoned this country and will destroy the whole world via climate change/pollution/fascism if they are not stopped quickly.
dlk
(11,576 posts)teenage boys should be bused on a school field trip to protest adult womens control of their own bodies. This type of misogyny is taught at home and at schools like Covington and is the anthesis of Christianity. The result is perpetration of the rape culture shown on this video. I cant imagine the teachings of Jesus encouraging rape under any circumstances, whether or not the victim is perceived to enjoy it.
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Young women running into these guys on the street, thinking, "I better do something about spawning one of those assholes."