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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOf course Akin will withdraw today
He can't stay in. The pressure on him is far too great for any politician to stay in. He has no support whatsoever from his party, and as we all know, that's a fatal blow. It's too bad, but hopefully this fuck up gives the dems a chance to hold this Senate seat. McCaskill may suck, but repubs taking the Senate would suck a lot more.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It wouldn't surprise me at all to find he gets even more money from them than he would have from the Republican party.
He's only saying what a great many Christian Conservatives believe and he'll be greatly loved by them for speaking out. Sadly I have some CCs in my extended family and they all think he's great and speaking uncomfortable truths.
cali
(114,904 posts)he just doesn't have the support to stay in.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)but he does have the Christian Conversatives flocking to him. It doesn't seem like much until you realize that Springfield, MO is the international headquarters of the Assemblies of God-and supposedly they are supporting him.
If he gets that support he'll stay until the end.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)are one step up from snake handlers. Wasn't Grifterella involved with the AoG? That creepy little shit with the Ferengi voice who was "protecting her from witchcraft" was AoG or some similar batshit denomination, wasn't he? Whatever. All of those DIY crackpot protestant cults, err, "churches" are batshit insane.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)could write a book, but it's too depressing. Batshit crazy, which is why the likes of "Grifterella" LOL and Akin can reside within their vacuous head. Magic underwear and gleaming tablets or whatever, has nothing on this group.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)It's interesting and I'll stay with that. Anything else wouldn't be complimentary towards them.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I don't see this issue derailing him among his base at all, indeed I think it will mobilize support for him among Christian Conservatives, they love nothing more than to feel "persecuted" for their beliefs.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)or they're stuck with him. I think he'll be gone long before the sun is over the yardarm.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)He will do wonders for the whole ticket nationwide.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)The fun here is to see how close this goes to 5pm when Akin's name goes on the ballot and stays there. Only a court case can remove it after that date. So there's extreme pressure on him by the party establishment to drop out and I'm 50/50 on him doing so. The 50 side that says he won't drop out is because that would mean this guy's career, him ambition is over. He's not running for re-election to his house seat so if he drops out he'll have to do something he's not loathe to do...get a REAL job. His ego just isn't ready to take the demotion...
I'm hoping the fundies rally around him and this opens up a big rift that's been brewing within the great unhinged for years. Dumping Akin...if its seen as being orchestrated by the party "establishment" could precipitate the long awaited party implosion...just in time for the party's sleezefest in Tampa.
This will be a fun and fascinating day...and could signal the opening shot of the long overdue rushpublican "civil war"...
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)You don't know the Republicans I know cali.
You are whistling past the graveyard on this one.
Akin is a hero of every Republican man and woman I am acquainted with.
You can't wish this one away.
Don
pintobean
(18,101 posts)That's a strange way of putting it.
I don't know the republicans that you know, but here in Missouri, the republicans want him out and the Democrats want him to stay. I'm sure he still has some support in outlying areas, but not enough to survive.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)were supposedly giving him their support. Their headquarters is in Springfield. Bachmann is also still supporting him at this time, so he's getting some support-hopefully enough to make him want to stay.
BTW-did you notice that, even though most on DU have us in Missouri as some sort of ultra conservatives, the presidential race is actually polling too close at this time? (It's within two points with only a slight lead to Romney.)
pintobean
(18,101 posts)the Assemblies of God. The born-agains and baptist that I know have thrown him under the bus, though. I hope you're right. I heard on the news this morning that a poll from last night(ppp?) has Aiken up by one percentage point. Hopefully, that helps to encourage him.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)polling for him. She posted on FB that she "gladly gave her support", hoping it would keep him in the race. She's actually a very liberal woman who can't stand him-she just wants him in the race until November.
He's still polling and she said that the polls sounded positive for him, at least the questions did.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)speaking of what they are seeing and hearing in MO.
You bring up a very interesting point - that the presidential race is close.
I suspect that the national fury is because they wanted to signal that Akin is too extreme for their party - even though a case can be made that Ryan is not all that far from Akin. Akin staying in suggests that he is not too extreme to win a statewide seat. (There have always been more extreme people in the House - elected in the fringe - right or left - districts. Akin would join a list of really extreme Republican Senators. To see how different this is - list the 5 most extreme Republican Senators and then look at the 5 most liberal Democrats. I don't think it is my political bias that concludes that their 5 are far more extreme than ours.)
xmas74
(29,674 posts)I'm in West Central Missouri and I'm in a more conservative area. I'd love to hear from others in KC, St Louis, in NE, NW, SE, SW, and Central MO about what they see and what they hear.
The only problem I see with that thread is a few DU'ers who would want to argue with us, even though they are nowhere near our state.
The presidential election is that close here in Missouri. It's within two points in favor of Romney. That's almost close enough to make it a swing state.
One interesting thing I did hear at work today: I heard someone mention Akin and someone else said that (and I quote) "Ryan's just like him. He even thinks there are different kinds of rape." Both are moderates, independent voters and both sounded downright pissed off.
cali
(114,904 posts)what a silly swipe at me.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)until I saw that he has a new ad released today. I think it's a sure bet he's staying in.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)The Republican Morality Goons
dkf
(37,305 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...and he doesn't look smart enough or strong enough to withstand it. Even if he does stay, he'll be persona non grata. A political zombie. The only one who doesn't know he's (politically) dead is him.
cali
(114,904 posts)and the repubs of all stripes- from the RNC to Mitt to the tea party express are leaning on him- hard.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)They BOTH share the same view!
cali
(114,904 posts)I simply find it hard to imagine he won't. The pukes are playing hardball with him.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)their most popular republican (whoever that is) up against her. So I actually think the only way McCaskill survives is if Akin stays in.
cali
(114,904 posts)I don't really see how it's possible.
summerschild
(725 posts)And a new one wouldn't be dumb as a rock like him.
Her only chance is if he stays in.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)because I do think he filed to run for it
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Or maybe it was another seat in the St. Louis area? They lost at least one seat I think.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)He is in a great negotiating position at this point. He can get a deal much better than a Senate seat. Pretty ironic that the more insane you are in the Republican Party, the more your stock goes up.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)summerschild
(725 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They have to be offering him a fortune to STFU and get out of the race.
TBF
(32,067 posts)he'll wait until he gets an offer he likes before he steps down. It's the way they operate ...
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)He's staying in. That's my bet.
TrogL
(32,822 posts)He believes he is right because he is right. He has to stay in to fight the good fight.
(rhyme and alliteration unintentional)
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the teabangelical nincompoops. That isn't an act. That is stupidity that goes all the way to the bone.
BumRushDaShow
(129,101 posts)Just sayin'.
(yes I know her issue was the reverse of this but the battling against the party is the same)
Spazito
(50,365 posts)He sees himself as a 'messenger from God' rather than a politician, imo. I am betting 60/40 - 60% chance he stays, 40% he goes.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Mariana
(14,858 posts)whose mission is to return American to the path of righteousness, or some such crazy shit.
kiranon
(1,727 posts)a theocracy so they can rule without dissent or any sense of guilt. They will be doing God's work as they define it and getting even richer in the process.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)voters will go for him. A few more "I ask for forgiveness" ads and mentioning God and Jesus a lot will keep him ahead in polls.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)they don't want anyone to start comparing his beliefs to Ryan's
otherwise the whole election's in more jeopardy - forget MO
why no news person starts asking is beyond me - Ryan...how are you different than Akin of abortion for rape?
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)he has bills to pay after all. Rove had better cough up quick
Redford
(373 posts)Akin is so repulsive even the reptards can see it.
lavenderdiva
(10,726 posts)this from his 'Bio' on his own Senate race webpage:
(edit to add: bold emphasis is mine)
link here: http://www.akin.org/about-todd-akin
I don't think he will yield to the pressure his campaign is under, which might be a good thing for our side, IMHO.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)The Republican party has plenty to lose, though. They should have handled him a bit differently. These Baggers are not party loyalist, as they're finding out.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Looks like he's staying in.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)But I saw his I'm sorry, so sorry ad instead.
Now it looks like this little fella is hanging in. You go, little fella.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)there have been many. I'll tell you, the one thing the Christian RWingers love better than a tear-stained sordid public testimony of a fall from grace from a now mere mortal, is a sordid gut-wrenching plea for forgiveness to get the contributions back on track. The bigger the better ... the more sin, the more grace, the more contributions. How else could Bristol Palin rake in millions as an advocate for abstention? Jimmy Swaggart and son are both raking it in. I rest my case.
Todd Akin is chump change in this arena.