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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:31 AM Aug 2012

Pres. Obama: 'That's (Romney's) answer for a young person hoping to go to college – shop around'

(CNN) - The presidential campaign of President Barack Obama, who is campaigning in Ohio Tuesday, released the following excerpts of his speech in Columbus.


President Obama:


"I am only standing before you today because of the chance my education gave me. So I can tell you with some experience that making higher education more affordable for our young people is something I've got a personal stake in. It's something I've made a top priority of my presidency. And Ohio, it's something that is very much at stake in this election.

"I say this because putting a college education within reach for working families doesn't seem to be a priority my opponent shares.

"A few months ago, just up the road in Westerville, Governor Romney said if you want to be successful, if you want to go to college or start a business, you can just "borrow money if you have to from your parents." And when a high school student in Youngstown asked him what he would do to make college more affordable for families like his, Governor Romney didn't say anything about grants or loan programs that have helped millions of students earn their education; nothing about work-study programs, or rising college tuition; not one word about community colleges, or how important higher education is to America's economic future. He said "the best thing I can do for you is to tell you to shop around."

"That's it – that's his plan. That's his answer for a young person hoping to go to college – shop around, borrow money from your parents if you have to – but if they don't have it, you're on your own.

"That's not an answer. There is nothing a parent wants more than to give our kids opportunities we never had. And there are few things as painful as not being able to do that. But right now, as we're still fighting our way back from the worst economic crisis in most of our lifetimes, many parents are struggling just to make ends meet. And I do not accept the notion that we should deny their children the opportunity of a higher education and a brighter future just because their families were hit hard by the recession."


read: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/21/obama-to-talk-education-in-columbus-ohio/


President Barack Obama walks to the Oval Office before departing to campaign events from the White House in Washington, August 21, 2012.

Aug.21:

9:15: President Obama departs the White House

10:40: Arrives in Columbus, Ohio

1:00: Delivers remarks at a campaign event at Capital University in Columbus

8:00: Delivers remarks at a campaign event at Truckee Meadows Community College, Reno

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Pres. Obama: 'That's (Romney's) answer for a young person hoping to go to college – shop around' (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2012 OP
"Hi, I'm Dirk Diggler and I can put you into my College of Sexual Arts for $39.95." HopeHoops Aug 2012 #1
In all fairness ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #2
GI bill bigtree Aug 2012 #4
My point exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #7
Romney's plan in a nutshell: reflection Aug 2012 #3
Wasn't that a song from the 60s? "You'd Better Shop Around"? sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #5
More crap from privileged white men who don't give a shit about fixing the economy. Initech Aug 2012 #6
I'm sorry but if what we have today puts a college education in the reach of kids I can't imagine dkf Aug 2012 #8
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
1. "Hi, I'm Dirk Diggler and I can put you into my College of Sexual Arts for $39.95."
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

(Some restrictions do apply)

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. In all fairness ...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:45 AM
Aug 2012
"A few months ago, just up the road in Westerville, Governor Romney said if you want to be successful, if you want to go to college or start a business, you can just "borrow money if you have to from your parents." And when a high school student in Youngstown asked him what he would do to make college more affordable for families like his, Governor Romney didn't say anything about grants or loan programs that have helped millions of students earn their education; nothing about work-study programs, or rising college tuition; not one word about community colleges, or how important higher education is to America's economic future. He said "the best thing I can do for you is to tell you to shop around."

"That's it – that's his plan. That's his answer for a young person hoping to go to college – shop around, borrow money from your parents if you have to – but if they don't have it, you're on your own.


"Borrow it from your parents" and "shop around" wasn't all romney offerred ... he also told the kid that he could join the military; they have an educational program.

Well, a close friend and former football team-mate of mine got injuried and lost his scholarship offers.

So in order to go to college, he joined the marines. After 3 years, while I was 1 year from graduation, he had accummulated approximately 15 credits, as everytime he moved duty stations, he had to withdraw from classes (this was 30+ years ago, before on-line learning).

But hey, he was in school, right? The plan was working until someone blew up his barracks in Lebanon.

So, yeah ... one can always join the military to get a college education.

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
4. GI bill
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

. . . not withstanding the risks and consequences associated with the opportunistic and pernicious direction of today's forces, the GI bill sure did provide for the education (and subsequent opportunity for civilian employment and advancement) for countless fathers and mothers like my own.

Point taken, of course, about the compromised 'choice' many young folks in our poorer communities who (like your close friend) had little other choice but to accept the dangerous and often deadly deal.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. My point exactly ...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:08 PM
Aug 2012

But people of romney's "experience" don't seem to understand ... the GI Bill was America's payment to those that served; but came in a time where college gave the recipient a leg up. Today, college/advanced education is a floor requirement.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
3. Romney's plan in a nutshell:
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:50 AM
Aug 2012

"Did you win life's lottery? Do you have parents you can borrow from? A built-in support system to help you? No? Oh well, sorry, loser. The world needs ditch diggers also."

sinkingfeeling

(51,460 posts)
5. Wasn't that a song from the 60s? "You'd Better Shop Around"?
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:02 PM
Aug 2012

And then she said...
'Just because you've become a young man now
(Man, now)
There's still some things that you don't understand now
(Son, now)
Before you ask some girl for her hand now
(My son)
Keep your freedom for as long as you can now'


My mama told me...'you better shop around'
(Shop, shop around) a-whoa-yeah
You better (uh-huh) shop around!
(Shop, shop around)
Uh-uh-uh

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
8. I'm sorry but if what we have today puts a college education in the reach of kids I can't imagine
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:12 PM
Aug 2012

What is out of reach.

Enabling massive loads of student debt gives the illusion that college is "affordable". What it really does is to put an anvil around the neck of these kids that they only wake up to when they realize they've mortgaged their future.

To me its crazy talk to tell kids to ignore cost and not shop around.

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