Bernie Sanders set to announce 2020 presidential run

[Donkees]

Hunter Walker - White House Correspondent,Yahoo News•January 25, 2019

Excerpt:

Two sources with direct knowledge of his plans told Yahoo News that Sanders, an independent and self-described “democratic socialist,” plans to announce his presidential bid imminently. While Sanders has been mulling a bid for months, one of the sources said he was emboldened by early polls of the race that have consistently showed him as one of the top candidates in a crowded Democratic primary field. In particular, the source said Sanders was heartened to see numbers indicating he is one of the leading candidates among African American and Latino voters, two groups he was perceived as struggling with in 2016.

A third source said Sanders’ bid will begin with an exploratory committee. Sanders’ campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment on this story.

In addition to these two sources, a former Sanders staffer who was not been briefed on the imminent announcement plans nevertheless said they were aware of many recent signs he is set to pull the trigger on a presidential campaign. Specifically, the former staffer said Sanders has been building out the infrastructure he would need for a White House bid.

“He’s already talking to staff and there are people he’s hiring. They’re nailing down contracts with vendors, … all the movement is there for him to run,” the ex-staffer said.

https://news.yahoo.com/bernie-sanders-set-announce-2020-presidential-run-234647684.html

[EffieBlack]

1. He can't possibly be serious.

[oberliner]

40. Why do you say that?

[BannonsLiver]

45. Are you falling out of love with Tulsi?

[NurseJackie]

47. ...

[oberliner]

49. I like all the Democrats in the field so far quite a bit

And I think Bernie would be a solid addition to the slate.

[trueblue2007]

76. bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT!!!

[oberliner]

79. He is an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats

With one of the most anti-Trump voting records in the Senate - 4th place, between Elizabeth Warren and Cory Booker.

[LongtimeAZDem]

83. He is an indepedent that has vociferously attacked the Democrats for decades. No thanks

[GWC58]

84. If Sanders makes it to the general election then

sure, I’ll vote for him. As for the primary? NO! 🤔

[LongtimeAZDem]

87. As will I, as I will have no choice. If he were to win, however, I expect that he would renounce

his affiliation with the party, and declare himself and Independent again.

He hates the Democratic party, and he wild discard it as soon as it has he's used it to achieve his goals.

[GWC58]

154. I honestly believe that Sanders time has come

and gone. Could he get the nomination? Sure he could. Will he? I have my serious doubts. 🤔

[LongtimeAZDem]

155. My worry is not that he would win; it's that he and his followers will refuse to

concede if he loses, and derail the whole thing.

[GWC58]

156. Worrying,

indeed! 😳😱

[trueblue2007]

89. He is an indepedent that has hatefully attacked the Democrats for decades. No thanks

why are you having "women" problems bernie? you don't get my vote doing this ......


~~~~~ >> In February 2016, Giulianna Di Lauro, a Latino outreach strategist for Senator Bernie Sanders’s presidential operation, complained to her supervisor that she had been harassed by a campaign surrogate whom she drove to events ahead of the Democratic primary in Nevada.

She said the surrogate told her she had “beautiful curly hair” and asked if he could touch it, Ms. Di Lauro said in an interview. Thinking he would just touch a strand, she consented. But she said that he ran his hand through her hair in a “sexual way” and continued to grab, touch and “push my boundaries” for the rest of the day.

“I just wanted to be done with it so badly,” she said.

When she reported the incident to Bill Velazquez, a manager on the Latino outreach team, he told her, “I bet you would have liked it if he were younger,” according to her account and another woman who witnessed the exchange. Then he laughed.

Accounts like Ms. Di Lauro’s — describing episodes of sexual harassment and demeaning treatment as well as pay disparity in Mr. Sanders’s 2016 campaign — have circulated in recent weeks in emails, online comments and private discussions among former supporters. Now, as the Vermont senator tries to build support for a second run at the White House, his perceived failure to address this issue has damaged his progressive bona fides, delegates and nearly a dozen former state and national staff members said in interviews over the last month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-sexism.html

[jalan48]

113. "Hatefully"?

[uppityperson]

90. Why do you want an Independent to run for a Democrat position?

[trueblue2007]

123. i sure as heck don't want him to run .... he is not a democrat.

he can run in Prairie Dog World.

[George II]

101. I like all Democrats in the field so far too. Sanders isn't included because....oh, you know.

And it's not a "slate" until the nominees are chosen.

[romana]

106. Except

Bernie is not a Democrat.

[Smackdown2019]

85. Math

He is 77 years old NOW, meaning he would be 79 years old two years from now. Add 4 years to that, 83 years. With stress and let's be frank, each year pass 70 for a male is a mile stone. What about a Democratic four more years? Which would be 87. So basically, get a younger candidate that is a DEMOCRAT!

[Gothmog]

96. There will be some fun John Lewis ads this cycle

[George II]

100. Lulz!

[MontanaMama]

2. Sigh.

?itemid=10849163

[manor321]

3. Has our party made releasing tax returns before the first primary a requirement?

[Hekate]

5. I think our party belatedly made being a Democrat a requirement.

[Control-Z]

18. Gawd, I hope so.

He is not a Democrat and better not try to pretend he is so he can run as a democrat. We tried that. Once was enough.

But who will he steal votes from if he runs third party? Gawd I wish he would just give it up.

[oberliner]

41. He is not running third party

Read the article.

[Gothmog]

98. You are correct

The new DNC rule will force sanders to actually join the party and force sanders to campaign as a member of the party

Link to tweet

In addition, new ballot access laws will require sanders to release five or ten years of tax returns. I really doubt that sanders will run in 2020 but if he does he will be grilled in the debates about his actions that were designed to help trump win.

[Hekate]

150. Thank you, Gothmog

[trueblue2007]

94. bernie is affraid of releasing his tax returns.

Bernie Sanders has released few tax returns compared with past and ...

Bernie Sanders has released few tax returns compared with past and present .... How transparent has Sanders been with his tax past returns?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/apr/06/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-has-released-few-tax-returns-compar/




he didn't comply

[Gothmog]

97. Maryland has adopted a ballot access law that will require the release of tax returns

Several other blue states are likely to adopt similar laws. sanders could wait until he actually files in Maryland to release his returns

[Hermit-The-Prog]

4. don't be silly Bernie

See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

[Docreed2003]

15. +1

[Eliot Rosewater]

52. NO MATTER what he says, NO MATTER tax returns, NO MATTER Magnitsky

he will still get a certain percentage and it will be enough to fuck us.

It will.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

58. and there will be foreign astroturfers

There will be foreign astroturfers -- Russian, Chinese, somewhere -- who will do their best to increase his percentage.

[Eliot Rosewater]

59. All day everyday

[msongs]

6. well ojeda dropped so there is an opening nt

[Freethinker65]

7. Cannot see myself ever voting for him again in a Primary

If he feels he needs to run to bring attention to causes he believes in, fine. He and Gabbard can fight for the same voters.

[BlueintheSTL]

8. Talk about delusional...

Bernie Sanders got crushed against Hillary when it was a binary choice. How in the world does he think he is going to do any better when he has go against at least a dozen other candidates that are a lot more popular than Hillary? This time his supporters in 2016 will have a lot of options. They did not have that in 2016.

[sunonmars]

19. Not to mention fishing in the same Barrel as ones like Warren and Gabbard.

I suspect most of his supporters have moved on.

He really should just give it up. He's done enough damage.

[oberliner]

42. He is much more well-known now than he was when he ran against HRC

He did quite well considering his low name recognition at the outset of the primary.

[NurseJackie]

50. Thank goodness for that.

[oberliner]

53. Who is your candidate of choice as of now?

[musette_sf]

72. + 1

[radius777]

102. Sanders was a hero of the white left,

some of whom resented the modern-day diverse Dem Party as embodied by the Obama/Hillary wing.

That (white populism) was not the only reason behind Sanders' rise, but a core reason, especially when given a binary choice.

Sanders' supporters were overwhelmingly white, and he survived so long due to winning several caucuses in white states.

He got crushed in almost all of the primaries (where there is larger turnout and more diverse) and in almost all metro/diverse areas and states across the country, where Dems get most votes from. He also got crushed in the South where most Democrats are black.

[honest.abe]

157. Yeah, he never connected with African Americans and never will.

He has a huge blind spot when it comes to issues affecting AA voters.

[kstewart33]

9. He's the only candidate who can hand the 2020 election to Trump.

So hoping he's gone by the end of the South Carolina primary.

[Eliot Rosewater]

54. Well, if people use his agenda, one he has almost NEVER accomplished anything on

in his how many years SIGH as a benchmark for other politicians who will actually do stuff, well, say hello to another GOP president.

[BannonsLiver]

10. Hard pass.

[11cents]

11. He's being ratio'd into dust on Twitter

Which of course may or may not mean a damn thing --other than it's not 2016.

[Cha]

67. Yes he is.. and those people on

twitter are activists and they vote.

It's encouraging.

[sunonmars]

12. Oh Gods sake No

He better not be trying to run as a Dem.

I suspect this won't run well.

Didn't they change the rules basically meaning he has to run an indie or change his affiliation.

[oberliner]

43. Did you read the article?

Because it clearly says that he is running as a Democrat.

[Renew Deal]

13. 2020 should be mission 0

As in Bernie Sanders gets 0 delegates

[brush]

14. He's still not a Democrat. But let him run, just not on our dime.

[CentralMass]

16. Go Bernie.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/bernie-sanders-2020-poll-770632/
Bernie Sanders Tops the List of 2020 Democratic Contenders in New Poll
Joe Biden and Beto O’Rourke round out the top three in the Democracy for America survey

"WASHINGTON — Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) holds a commanding lead in a new poll of liberal grassroots activists conducted by Democracy for America, the lefty activist group founded by former Vermont governor and 2004 presidential candidate Howard Dean.

In a field of 23 candidates, Sanders claimed 36 percent of the first-place votes by DFA activists, more than double the percentage of former Vice President Joe Biden, who finished in second with 15 percent. Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-TX), who narrowly lost his Senate race against Republican Ted Cruz last month, took third place with 12 percent. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) grabbed fourth with 8 percent and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) rounded out the top five with seven percent."

[DavidDvorkin]

23. Votes by DFA activists

Meaningless.

[Kahuna7]

28. A DFA straw poll?

[earthshine]

68. Put me down for Bernie, with Warren as the backup choice. nt

[Snotcicles]

78. +1.

Because I'm a real Bernie supporter. And he has done nothing to lessen my support.

[rgbecker]

86. Plus 2

Both straight talkers. Always on topic. Locked and loaded.

[lapucelle]

133. Dean broke with the DFA in 2016 and founded a new organization with Hillary Clinton. N/T

[musicblind]

17. I like Bernie but right now

I'm pretty much team Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren. Maybe Beto.

I don't usually make firm choices until after the first debates but, at the moment, those are the front runners for me, personally.

But who knows, maybe all the three will have bad debate showings? Or, maybe Biden or Bernie will blow me away at the debates?

But right now, I'm leaning Kamala, Elizabeth, Beto.

[Control-Z]

34. I'm with you on Kamala

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but Amy Klobuchar has impressed the hell out of me. She's got more experience and is well liked by most. I think she has become equal to, if not first over, Kamala for me. They are both exciting as candidates, though! Amy hasn't announced yet but I think she will.

We have so much talent in our party. It's going to be great fun, I think.

[ismnotwasm]

20. Of course he is.

[NurseJackie]

21. I only support Democrats.

[DinahMoeHum]

22. (Yawn!)

[sunonmars]

24. Guess who the GOP nutters and russian bots will get behind to wreck our primaries.....

[Eliot Rosewater]

57. Dont have to guess, it is now a proven FACT that has happened ...

[trof]

25. Bye Bye Bernie

Bye, bye, Bernie
I'm gonna miss you so
Bye, bye, Bernie
Why'd ya have to go (Bye, bye)
No more sunshine (Sunshine)
It's followed you away (You away)
I'll cry, Bernie (Bernie)
Till you're home to stay (Home to stay)
I'll miss the way you smile
As though it's just for me
And each and ev'ry night
I'll write…
Bye, bye, Bernie,
It's awful hard to bear
Bye, bye, Bernie
Guess I'll always care
Guess I'll always ca-a-a-a-are
Guess I'll always care

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[MineralMan]

26. Oh boy, oh boy!

I couldn't be more excited...

[Joe941]

27. Very excited. I feel the bern!

Been waiting for this.

[Cha]

36. BS is too Divisive.

[MrsCoffee]

127. Come on ice cream...

[BannonsLiver]

29. THE question is when does Bernie get out of the race.

He’s not going to be the nominee. When that becomes clear to Bernie and how long he stays in to cause trouble is the real issue.

[NurseJackie]

32. Correct. Math matters. Not pride.

[trueblue2007]

124. how long he stays in to cause trouble is the real issue.HE'LL WRECK IT JUST LIKE HE DID FOR HILLARY

I BLAME bernie.....

[betsuni]

125. Yes.

Making a Goldman Sachs speech diabolical: "It must be a fantastic speech, a brilliant speech which you would want to share with the American people. It must be Shakespearean!"

"We need a campaign -- an election -- coming up which does not have two candidates who are really very, very strongly disliked. I don't wanna see the American people voting for the lesser of two evils. I want the American people to be voting for a vision of economic justice, of environmental justice, of racial justice."

And so much more. These are his words.

[oberliner]

136. Bernie campaigned for and with Hillary Clinton after she won the nomination

[LongtimeAZDem]

144. Never mind; don't want to get bannned /nt

[LongtimeAZDem]

145. Absolutely right /nt

[marlakay]

30. He said he ran last time to move things to the left

Maybe thats his point now and not to win.

I hope so.

[Cha]

44. We won the House from all

kinds of Dems.

The Democratic Platform is inclusive.

https://democrats.org/about/party-platform/

BS is too divisive.

[musette_sf]

31. He'll be running on an independent ticket, I trust

[oberliner]

46. Did you read the article?

Because it says what ticket he'd be running on.

[musette_sf]

61. I read the article

but I'm not sure that is his decision to make. Unless he joins the party, that is.

[oberliner]

63. He ran as a Democrat last time

I don't see why he wouldn't be able to do so again.

[musette_sf]

71. we'll see

[pnwmom]

126. Does it say when he'll be releasing his full tax returns?He delayed releasing even a full tax return

Last edited Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:06 AM - Edit history (2)

last time, but he's had a couple of years to start gathering them.

[oberliner]

135. Bernie Sanders Just Released His Tax Returns. Read Them In Full.

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2804313-Bernie-Sanders-Just-Released-His-Tax-Returns.html

[betsuni]

137. ...

[pnwmom]

140. Are you laughing because that was just one return from 2014? Me, too.

Why didn't he release it in 2015? And where are the other years?

[betsuni]

141. Yes!

The "HE DID TOO SHOW HIS TAX RETURNS!!!11" thing. Come on, man. Ridiculous.

[pnwmom]

139. That is just one return from 2014. And he didn't "just" release it. He released it in April 2016.

One year wasn't enough then and it isn't now.

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/15/bernie-sanders-releases-his-2014-tax-returns/

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont released his 2014 federal tax returns on Friday, following weeks of questioning — by his rival, Hillary Clinton, and the media — and promises that he would do so.

The couple’s income — $205,617 in 2014 — includes $156,441 in wages and salary and $46,213 from Social Security benefits, although some of those benefits are not taxable, according to seven pages of tax returns released by the Sanders campaign. The returns, which were prepared by Mr. Sanders’s wife, Jane, also show that the couple gave $8,350 as gifts to charity and paid $27,653 in federal income taxes.

For weeks, Mr. Sanders had said he would release his tax returns, saying he had not done so previously because Ms. Sanders does the couple’s taxes but she had been campaigning alongside him for months.

[honest.abe]

33. This guy is dangerous.

All he will accomplish is get his followers all pissed off at the Democratic party.

[oberliner]

48. Dangerous in what way?

[honest.abe]

56. Probably like 2016..

Gin up misplaced anger among his followers against the Democratic party and the eventual nominee. Which will likely result in many not showing up to vote or not enthusiastic about our nominee.

Yes, thats dangerous given that it might result in 4 more years of Trump hell.

[oberliner]

62. I thought he helped get some important issues out there effectively

And also - HRC still won the popular vote by quite a large margin (and he campaigned for her after she got the nomination).

[honest.abe]

64. He damaged her during the primaries.

Many of his followers ended up hating her and the Democratic party. That could happen again.

[oberliner]

66. That happens in primaries

Remember Ted Kennedy and Jimmy Carter?

[honest.abe]

69. Bernie is not a Democrat..

and his attacks are more about taking the Democratic party down rather than helping us to win. There is no room for error this time. The only goal in 2020 must be to defeat Trump and the Republican party. We do not need Bernie throwing rocks at us while we try do that.

[oberliner]

130. He is an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats

And has one the strongest anti-Trump voting records in the Senate.

[honest.abe]

138. Yeah, he usually votes with us unless the vote has anything to do with Russia sanctions.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211680139

[comradebillyboy]

149. Yes I remeber Teddy helped Regan get elected in 1980.

It's one of the main reasons I could never support Teddy Kennedy.

[shanny]

105. lol

his followers are/were already all pissed off at the Democratic party. That is WHY they are/were his followers.

[honest.abe]

118. Yes but..

I would say his followers start out disappointed / uninspired by the Democratic Party but after a year of Bernie's attacks during the primary they will end up hating the Party.

Case in point 2016 convention many booed a Dem legend John Lewis. We do not need anything like that in 2020.

[Dream Girl]

35. Please god no!

[Vinca]

37. I wish he wouldn't.

There is a time for everyone and Bernie's has come and gone as far as running for POTUS.

[mcar]

38. Sooo, he's going to officially change his affiliation to Democrat?

I'll need to see the paperwork.

[Control-Z]

74. He'll switch back to I after he loses.

I hope there are rule changes to discourage him.

[sheshe2]

39. Oh boy.

[jcgoldie]

51. NO THANKS

All Bernie can do at this point is damage.

[BlueStater]

55. Sick of him and his ego.

Go away, old man.

[PSPS]

60. Aw, Jeez

Sanders' purpose isn't to promote ideas as much as it is to sow discord in the democratic party. He's another kremlin asset. He had a weekly gig on RT last time, for christ's sake. Hey Bernie, we're all still waiting for those tax returns you promised.

[DURHAM D]

65. Come on Mueller. Finish your work. nt

[SidDithers]

70. Can't wait to hear his affirmation...

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/391459-dnc-panel-adopts-rule-requiring-candidates-to-run-serve-as-a-democrat

Sid

[David__77]

73. His candidacy would be warmly welcomed by the DNC.

I don’t even think there will be any emails complaining about his entry!

[betsuni]

75. Bernie Sanders: "Trust me, if they went into our emails ... I'm sure there would be statements

that would be less than flattering ... . That's what happens in campaigns."

[R B Garr]

77. Brutal comments after the article, and it's like that

everywhere. It looks like people are very aware of what was sacrificed.

[Liberal In Texas]

81. I voted for him. In the primary.

I wish he wouldn't

[BSdetect]

82. That will be terrible in so many ways. Time to take a back seat Bernie.

[OhZone]

88. Is he putting this out now to help take a little of this news cycle to help Trump?

Yeah, I know. Nutty Tin foil hat time.

I just don't trust him for two seconds.

I've even wondered if Russia got lots of compromat on him dating back to his honeymoon in Moscow.

Any way, I only support Democrats.


Oh well.

[doc03]

91. Really

[MrsCoffee]

92. Show us the taxes.

[LiberalFighter]

93. Those with "direct knowledge" are just making it up.

[Apollyonus]

95. If he is counting on the 10% of the media buys

looking at this thread it appears that he will be unsuccessful unlike last time.

[George II]

99. Will he be paying his female staffers the same as his male staffers, and make sure....

....this doesn't happen again?

http://time.com/5490813/bernie-sanders-campaign-sexual-harassment/

Former Bernie Sanders Staffers Voice Concerns About 'Sexual Harassment and Violence' on 2016 Campaign

[fleabiscuit]

103. He will need to bounce the contributor beg to $28.25 due to inflation. nt

[shanny]

104. Good!!!

He will not be the nominee, but his ideas/policies are more than welcome to this lifelong Democrat. We owe him a debt of gratitude.

[LongtimeAZDem]

146. Never mind; don't want to get bannned /nt

[shanny]

148. Disagree.

[David__77]

111. Are you sure that you want to call a Jewish man a "fucking parasite?"

...

[jalan48]

119. That's some fucking ugly shit you're spouting there.

[LongtimeAZDem]

147. Yep; the TOS will shield Sanders from legitimate criticism once he declares

[VOX]

109. Not interested.

Tired of this guy’s act, “borrowing” the Democratic Party when it suits him, and his weird aversion to Russia sanctions.

Just...no.

[RandySF]

110. No thanks. I don't want to get Berned.

[Devil Child]

112. Damn good news

Haters gonna hate no matter what Sen. Sanders does or does not do. I’m unsure if he will be my primary favorite but I’ll see what the campaign brings.

[IMPEACH_45DJT]

115. Fantastic news

Either him or Warren would be fantastic. Ultimately though, I'll vote for ANY Dem over the orange menace.

[SamKnause]

116. I love Bernie !!!

[Cha]

117. BS is too Divisive and insulting to Minorities and Democratic Leaders.

Link to tweet

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

[Eric J in MN]

120. You can take a sentence out-of-context or

...listen to a recent Bernie Sanders’ speech:

[Cha]

121. No. He's too Divisive and Insulting.

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For’

[MrsCoffee]

129. You might have a point if it was one sentence, one time.

There is a pattern that hasn’t gone unnoticed.

[Eric J in MN]

158. One of the easiest ways for a journalist

...to write an article is to listen to a Bernie Sanders speech or interview until he says one sentence which will sound bad out-of-context and then create a controversy with it.

Yes, journalists have done that many times.

[Power 2 the People]

153. +1000

[susanna]

128. I finally get to see a Ragnarok

tweet...for some reason, he's blocked me on Twitter. Thank you for the glimpse lol.

He's right, tho.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

122. ...

[aikoaiko]

131. This is what Democracy looks like...come on everyone sing it.

[Nonhlanhla]

132. Old man who does not live in the house won't get off the lawn...

(Just kidding.) More seriously, given how divisive he is, given his tone deafness about gender and race realities, and given the fact that he is NOT a Democrat, this is not good news.

[Mike Nelson]

134. Think about it...

… this is good news. I've always expected him to run again, but was worried about him running as a non-partisan candidate. Bernie has the Presidential bug and he will run, and if the Democrats don't let him run as a Democrat, he will run non-partisan... that would be a disaster. Harris is my present favorite - but there are so many great choices!

[lapucelle]

142. If he runs, BS will have to answer questions about sexual assault and

­- a culture of toxic masculinity within his 2016 campaign,
- his votes against Russia sanctions, (including his recent missed vote),
- his pro-gun votes,
- his Crime Bill vote,
- flat-leaving the Democratic party after admittedly exploiting its structure and resources,
- earning maximum profit by allowing Amazon to market, sell, and distribute his books,
- and his continued reluctance to release his mysterious taxes.

In general, many people don't find career politicians whose chief accomplishment has been to amass a personal fortune particularly trustworthy or inspiring.

[pamdb]

143. Bernie

He’s too damn old. Don’t these people ever want to retire?

Is he going to run as a democrat. Again?

Love how he jumps in and out of the party as it suits him.

And I voted for him in the Michigan primary but I think if he had conceded, like Hillary did to Obama in 2008 and thrown his support to Hillary earlier instead of hanging around with hints of a brokered convention, more of his supporters might have gone with Hillary. He was a sore looser.

Just stay a senator, he’s needed in that position at least until he retires, if he ever does.

[stonecutter357]

151. Democratic party members only !

[riverwalker]

152. The Devine connection with Kilimnik and Manafort

Creeps me out. We have a deep bench and plenty of candidates whose campaign heads never once met a Russian mobster, much less did business with one.