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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:57 AM Jan 2019

Report: Trump Fears Stone Will Flip


Cody Fenwick

January 26, 2019 4:52 am

President Donald Trump is “very worried” that his longtime ally Roger Stone will turn on him after Special Counsel Robert Mueller indicted him on seven counts in the Russia investigation on Friday, according to Vanity Fair reporter Gabriel Sherman.

Sherman cited several anonymous sources within Trump’s orbit, as well as Michael Caputo and Sam Nunberg, who are friends with Stone. They said that Stone has been expecting to get indicted for months now — something Stone has said publicly.

Stone insisted after appearing in Court that he will not plead guilty to the charges against him on Friday, adding: “There is no circumstance whatsoever under which I will bear false witness against the president.”
However, he did not rule out ever working with prosecutors — nor potentially telling them the truth about Trump, whatever that may be.

Sherman reports that, despite Stone’s implications to the contrary, there’s good reason to believe he may flip on Trump. One Republican close to Trump told Sherman that, “Stone knows Donald isn’t loyal. He calls him ‘Mr. Ingratitude.’”

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http://www.nationalmemo.com/report-trump-fears-stone-will-flip/
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Report: Trump Fears Stone Will Flip (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
I hope Stone flips and gets his sentenced reduced... manor321 Jan 2019 #1
They all flip on Trump edhopper Jan 2019 #2
The "bear false witness" part stuck out to me Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #3
Good point, Doc. Mc Mike Jan 2019 #9
That is what struck me as well. Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #10
same here TeamPooka Jan 2019 #15
Stone's been playing the game for a lo-o-o-o-ong time gratuitous Jan 2019 #19
Agreed Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #20
What, me worry? C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #4
Probably because he knows at the end of the day Downtown Hound Jan 2019 #5
The one thing that makes me think he will flip.... getagrip_already Jan 2019 #6
Pardon is in the works. boston bean Jan 2019 #12
New York State charges are waiting in the wings... getagrip_already Jan 2019 #13
Good point. Maybe. boston bean Jan 2019 #14
I don't think Stone will flip right away. shockey80 Jan 2019 #7
Why not just post the Vanity Fair article? oberliner Jan 2019 #8
Maybe you should contact the admins on that subject. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #17
Can you post the link, please? BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #21
I just hope all that worry doesn't give him health problems. Mc Mike Jan 2019 #11
he doesn't have to bear false witness against dump scarytomcat Jan 2019 #16
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Jan 2019 #18
Trump has no loyalty to anybody besides himself... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #22

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
2. They all flip on Trump
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:09 AM
Jan 2019

first the bravado, then when they realize Mueller has them dead to rights, they flip.
Stone might think Trump will pardon him, but in the end, he'll flip.

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
3. The "bear false witness" part stuck out to me
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:19 AM
Jan 2019

Obviously in RW nut job world, if you "flip", you must have been forced into lying to save yourself. But what if we take this statement literally. "I will not bear false witness against the President" doesn't preclude him from telling the truth about what happened.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
10. That is what struck me as well.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jan 2019

He didn't say he would not testify against Trump - he only said he would not testify falsely against Trump.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Stone's been playing the game for a lo-o-o-o-ong time
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:30 PM
Jan 2019

The "false witness" wording wasn't accidental.

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
4. What, me worry?
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jan 2019

What's there to worry about, Donny? There wouldn't happen to be some crimes? A conspiracy perhaps? Foreign tampering in elections? Obstruction? Witness tampering? Money laundering? What's the worry?

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
5. Probably because he knows at the end of the day
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jan 2019

There's nobody that will truly sacrifice themselves for his selfish, pompous ass.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
6. The one thing that makes me think he will flip....
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jan 2019

Is that he won't have a voice in jail. That is a death sentence to a guy like stone (or trump).

In jail, nobody can read your tweets, or pay you to appear on cable teehee, and you can't easily even write articles anyone will be interested in.

He will soon realize that. And will want no part of it.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
13. New York State charges are waiting in the wings...
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jan 2019

He lives in FL, but has an appt in NYC that was raided and searched at the same time he was arrested.

To get a search warrant, they needed cause. And if they have cause in nyc, then nys likely has charges they can bring.

Stay tuned.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
7. I don't think Stone will flip right away.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jan 2019

He will go to trial, he thinks he can win, and like Manafort will be convicted, put in prison. Then he might flip.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. Why not just post the Vanity Fair article?
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jan 2019

As opposed to "The National Memo" paraphrasing of it.

Seems like if Gabriel Sherman did the reporting for Vanity Fair, then Vanity Fair ought to get the traffic, no?

Many news outlets are losing revenue because folks look for ways to avoid paywalls by using sites like "National Memo" and "Raw Story" that paraphrase the work of great reporters and essentially deprive the outlets that hire them of the revenue they deserve.

DU oughtn't contribute to this phenomenon, in my opinion.

If anyone ought to be helping sites like Vanity Fair stay viable, it should be politically-minded progressives like us.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
16. he doesn't have to bear false witness against dump
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 01:17 PM
Jan 2019

just tell the truth that should be enough to get him but he will lie to protect dump

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
22. Trump has no loyalty to anybody besides himself...
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 03:52 PM
Jan 2019

Deep down he knows that none of his associates (I can't imagine he has any real friends) have any real loyalty to him.

Birds of a feather, as it were.

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