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Stone says he won't BEAR FALSE WITNESS against the 'president.' (Original Post) elleng Jan 2019 OP
That Tricky Dick. Sugar Smack Jan 2019 #1
What he was charged with duforsure Jan 2019 #2
Interesting phrasing... 2naSalit Jan 2019 #3
Interesting perspective on Stone and Mr. Mueller here... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #9
That was a thought that occurred to me as well 2naSalit Jan 2019 #10
He has already admitted to lying numerous times oberliner Jan 2019 #4
Nobody's asking him to lie. Iggo Jan 2019 #5
Exactly, elleng Jan 2019 #6
Sounds almost biblical... Blue Owl Jan 2019 #7
No problem DFW Jan 2019 #8
No problem. Go directly to jail. Vinca Jan 2019 #11

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. What he was charged with
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 07:46 PM
Jan 2019

Will be easily proven in a court of law, and where facts are used , not propaganda to base a case against someone on. HE's walking down the same path as Manafort , and will end up no matter what trump does spending his remaining life behind bars, then lets see how arrogant he is, and mouthy.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
3. Interesting phrasing...
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:06 PM
Jan 2019

"bear false witness"

Ways to interpret that phrase include his proclamation that he won't lie. Okay, that could mean that publicly he's saying he's all over it on the 45 team but when confronted with losing his personal freedom, he's not lying and nobody will know for sure until his transcripts are released (not under seal or redacted to smithereens).

Also, He's throwing red meat to the base of idiot who praise anyone who can use the words from the bible like, "bear false witness" which to them sounds more like he's mr. clean jeans and his piousness is justified because, how could he be evil if he has the best words like those? PR from chapter seven in the cheaters' guide.

I think he could flip and request a gag rule or something but I think he's expecting to get pardoned. Mind you, being pardoned means that he can't take the 5th when he gets subpoenaed later on.


It will be interesting with the timing as to when the regime is removed and making sure they can't pardon anyone before they are out. And I'm not talking them being in office come xmas this year. I think we'll be having them out by the end of summer.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
9. Interesting perspective on Stone and Mr. Mueller here...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:24 AM
Jan 2019
No Escape for Roger Stone: Mueller’s Case Is a Slam Dunk and He’s Too Slimy to Get Flipped
Prosecutor who helped convict Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libby for lying and obstruction says the case against Trump’s old pal is virtually perfect.

Link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/no-escape-for-roger-stone-muellers-case-is-a-slam-dunk-and-hes-too-slimy-to-get-flipped?ref=home

(snip)
Finally, do not expect to see Special Counsel Robert Mueller make any attempt to flip Stone and have him cooperate. A defendant like Stone is far more trouble than he is worth to a prosecutor. Stone is too untrustworthy for a prosecutor to ever rely upon. He has told so many documented lies, and bragged so often about his dirty tricks, that he simply has too much baggage to deal with even if here to want to cooperate—which seems unlikely in any event. Mueller, I suspect, would not even be willing to engage in a preliminary debrief with Stone to just test the possibility of cooperation out of concern that Stone would immediately go on television with his pals at Fox News to decry Mueller’s Gestapo tactics.

In short, Mueller does not need Stone to get to someone else and, even if he did, he could not rely on whatever Stone told him. Stone has nothing to sell that Mueller would be interested in buying.

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2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
10. That was a thought that occurred to me as well
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 08:10 AM
Jan 2019

And it's the most sound scenario given how slimy he is. I like that he probably won't be giving testimony for anything.

This also points to a more expedient outcome, I think. We could be seeing some major movement in the perpwalk department over the next couple weeks or so. Works for me.



Thanks for sharing that article, hadn't seen it yet.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. He has already admitted to lying numerous times
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jan 2019

So it doesn't seem like bearing false witness has ever been a concern for him before.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
8. No problem
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:09 AM
Jan 2019

Just "bear true witness." Not only will that be more than sufficient, it might even reduce your sentence a little.

Like from 150 years down to a mere 75.

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