Has there been any updates on those Covington brats?

[Archae]

[Polly Hennessey]

1. I guess not.

Maybe they are having dinner at Savannah
Guthrie’s house.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

2. Their bishop apologized to them

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211733437

Pretty sickening really.

[catrose]

36. Gag!

I read comments on a Catholic site this morning. The article tried to give "both sides," and the commenters were horrified, when that nice sweet Sandman boy acted so mature beyond his years. WTF?

I can't remember when I didn't know that you gave way to elders. None of these boys had ever been taught that?

Maybe the whole thing bothers me so much because I graduated from a Catholic high school, where I was taught differently.

[Ferrets are Cool]

3. Don't know, don't care.

That kind of hate goes on all the time. This time it was just caught on video. The people who hate their conduct (including myself) have their views. The "other side" has theirs. Neither will change with even more coverage.

[MichMary]

4. What kind of update?

Media peeps are apologizing left and right.

The Sandmann family has hired a VERY high-powered libel/slander attorney.

The right wing media has outed Mr. Phillips as a liar, a felon, an AWOL, etc.

Is that the kind of update you want to hear?

[wellst0nev0ter]

9. How is Phillips a liar?

He said he was a "Vietnam era vet" not that he went to Vietnam.

His most serious charge was escaping from detention and assault, but it not amount to a felony. The rest was underage drinking and a driving ticket.

This is how whiteness works. Do better.

[MichMary]

10. I'm just saying

that's how they're portraying him.

[wellst0nev0ter]

13. "The right wing media has outed..."

That suggests the reich-wing fever swamp is correct.

Do better.

[Loki Liesmith]

28. Let all be silence

We been told now!

[oberliner]

11. "These young men were beastly and these old black individuals was their prey..."

Would you say that was an accurate characterization?

[wellst0nev0ter]

15. Glad to see you've picked a side in this battle

The wrong side, per usual, but a side nonetheless.

To paraphrase Rudy Giuliani, those boys were no angels, and neither were the Black Hebrews. But the boys outnumbered the BHs, and the situation was tense.

Perhaps Phillips approached the boys from a perspective that was wrong, but the boys treatment of him remains the same: scornful, hate-filled and racist.

[blm]

18. You see this event clearly.

.

[Kingofalldems]

20. Yeah those tomahawk chops and chants of 'build the wall' were totally innocent.

[Igel]

21. Except that for all the video,

nobody's actually produced any that showed the kids saying "build the wall."

[Kingofalldems]

23. Witness testimony.

https://www.juancole.com/2019/01/stupidity-shouting-american.html

[MichMary]

25. It wasn't on

any of the video I saw. (And no, I didn't watch the whole video.) Whether or not it actually happened makes a lot of difference in people's perceptions, and if there were any video in which such chants were audible, I would think it would be all over the Internet. It's not.

[Kingofalldems]

26. For the 2nd time---Witness testimony.

Read the article.

[MichMary]

34. I read the article.

Although quite quickly. Will go back and read it again. But, does the author claim to have heard it him/herself, or is he/she just taking someone's word for it. So much of this was recorded that I find it hard to believe that one of the recordings wouldn't have picked it up.

[MichMary]

35. FTA:

Remember, Phillips risked his life for a country that had treated his people like crap, stealing their land, putting them on reservations, forbidding them to practice their religion, and occasionally massacring them.

This author seems to have jumped to the same conclusion so many others did, that Mr. Phillips served in Vietnam. He didn't. There are errors in this article. The horrible chant may also have been an assumption. I would still like to see a recording where it can be heard.

[Kingofalldems]

38. Being in the military is risking one's life.

Amazing.

[dawg day]

29. Weren't they also seen harassing women just before?

Of course, harassing women on the street is just "boys will be boys," to all too many people.

[dameatball]

30. I think some of the talking heads jumped to the conclusion that he was a Vietnam vet. I don't think

that came from Mr. Phillips.

[MichMary]

33. Yeah,

he used the vague term "Vietnam times," and I think there were a lot of assumptions made.

[Jake Stern]

32. Oh the "Recon Ranger"?

His status must have been top secret because his records showed his MOS was a refer mechanic - an AC repairman.

[Takket]

5. yes

Their leader was on the today show, and the group was formally apologized to by the Bishop, and invited to the White House.

But there is no such thing as white privilege.

[Miigwech]

6. We all know the truth about covboys

anyone that has had to deal with these ... so, so, feeling, socially superior, country club members, overpriced, private school grads, future frat boys, screw up legacy's ---- they are just not made of anything but fluff and lies and racism. Working for them opens one's eyes.

[Igel]

22. Apparently Covington tuition this year

was around $8k.

That's not all that bad, actually. If my kids had to go to public schools where we live and that was an option, we'd go for it.

[obamanut2012]

7. some of them hired a libel attorney

and, their bishop apologized to them.

[oberliner]

8. Bishop apologizes to teen who faced off with Native American

The bishop of the Covington Diocese in Kentucky apologized Friday to the teenager at the center of a controversy over the behavior of Catholic high school students toward a Native American elder in Washington.

In a letter to parents, the Most Rev. Roger Foys said the diocese was too quick to condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students, particularly those of Nicholas Sandmann, the boy who was seen on video facing off with Native American elder Nathan Phillips as he performed the song "American Indian Movement" near the Lincoln Memorial.

"We should not have allowed ourselves to be bullied and pressured into making a statement prematurely, and we take full responsibility for it," Foys wrote. "I especially apologize to Nicholas Sandmann and his family, as well as to all CovCath families who have felt abandoned during this ordeal."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bishop-apologizes-teen-who-faced-native-american-n963056

[Dr Vegas]

16. but another Bishop thinks

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bishop-john-stowe-covington-kentucky-maga-hats-abortion_us_5c4b5ae7e4b06ba6d3bcbd87?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003&fbclid=IwAR3Ja7SN1ogjJRhVApJNo9p6J_ZtiMz5h61yrozpyDjZ-vWgs91UKXXw92U

[Kingofalldems]

19. Be best.

[BannonsLiver]

12. Yes

They’re still entitled little Nazis.

[kairos12]

14. I think Drumpt wants to honor them.

[LAS14]

17. Here's a good description of what happened and reflections.

A longer video released a day after the story broke includes more than an hour of footage leading up to the incident. I do think it offers a more complicated picture and provides helpful context in understanding how tensions escalated, even if it doesn’t change the fundamental takeaway—that these students were engaging in a form of harassment.


https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/teachable-moment-1?utm_source=Main+Reader+List&utm_campaign=2b52d95183-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_03_16_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_407bf353a2-2b52d95183-91236941

[cwydro]

24. They're heroes now.

I hope I never hear of them again.

[Kingofalldems]

27. Interesting thread.

[kimbutgar]

31. I hope colleges will not be so readily willing to accept Covington students as the school

Now has a reputation of being a racist school.

[MichMary]

37. Which is why

so many in the media are backtracking and issuing apologies. The attorney the families have hired will make them pay BIGLY for every tweet, every article, etc.

[Kingofalldems]

41. BIGLY you say?

Interesting.

[John Fante]

39. No bigotry behind those MAGA hats, no sir. They're just economically anxious

high school students! The Hebrews made them act like bigoted little shits, watch the whole video! Innocent until proven guilty (unless your Al Franken)!

What else? Nathan Phillips drank beer while underage back in the '60s! He didn't even serve in Nam, or attend a private military school like Trump - he's a fake! And did you guys see the priest who criticized the Covington boys? Goofy-looking, huh?

THIS IS A WITCH HUNT!

[IcyPeas]

40. as repugnant as the Black Israelites were....

as Phillips approached the kids they were yelling (paraphrasing) look how they mock - that's serious mockery - you at a Native rally in a MAGA hat.

so they also saw it as the kids mocking the Native Americans.

We all know what we saw.

The PR firm must be doing a good job since this story has fallen out of the news cycle.

-peace