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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump/Faux News story about 58,000 non-citizens voting in Texas corrected by Tribune, Mediaite
Here's the link:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-propagates-false-fox-friends-story-that-58000-non-citizens-voted-in-texas/
The info from the Texas Tribune in particular makes it clear how shoddy this argument is, since this "voter fraud alert" is based on what the state admitted were "weak matches" of tens of thousands of names over a 22-year period...and without considering the possibility that even if the matches were correct, those people could have become citizens before they voted.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)MineralMan
(146,329 posts)3488 records for "Juan Lopez." A guy could go on and on with searches for such common names.
How about "Maria Gonzalez?" There are 18,568 people, apparently, with that name in Texas.
That's the kind of "weak matches" they're talking about. People with common Hispanic names are probably most of the names singled out as possible fraudulent voters in those findings. I'm betting they didn't match names that weren't Hispanic at all.
It's freaking ridiculous.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,895 posts)than the rest of us.
I used to work the information desk at the hospital in Santa Fe. It was fairly common to have two people with the same first and last name staying there. If they were far enough apart in age I could ask the visitor about how old their "Juan Lopez" was. One time I had two "Juan Lopezes", and one was 40, the other 42. I gave all the visitors both room numbers, which was technically violating HIPPA, I think, and told them the situation. If the first one isn't your guy, the other one will be, I told them.
erronis
(15,328 posts)Pete Peterson, Sven Svenson, Lars Larson.
My recollection is that even first, middle, and last names are not enough to identify multiple individuals living on the same block back in Norse country.
Of course, most of these are white Europeans, so no worries.
Submariner
(12,509 posts)I work with a lot of Miguel's or Jorge's with frequently heard last names like Hernandez or Rodriguez.
The only way we can distinguish them on the paperwork is their use of the middle name and the mother's last name, for instance; of the three Miguel Hernandez's, only one is named
Miguel Alberto Hernandez Sais.
Do Hispanics in your neck of the woods have those expansive names?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,895 posts)The bigger problem is that many of them go by nicknames, so someone would come to the hospital to visit his uncle whom he only knew by the nickname. Luckily, I would quickly learn that Uncle Gordo was really Jose Gonzales and send them on their way.
the other problem was that the women not only likewise went by a nickname, but because they were quite casual and totally inconsistent about which last name they used, especially if they were married, I learned to check every possible name combination. For instance, Maria Elena Martinez Garcia might actually be in the hospital under Lupe Corrales, because Corrales was her first husband's surname and for who knows what reason she was known as Lupe. There's supposed to be a system for father's surname and mother's surname, but the Hispanics here simply aren't at all consistent.
Makes me glad I have the unique name of Poindexter Oglethorpe. But no, that's not my real name.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)progree
(10,918 posts)But 6 of the 7 listings are "Jesus Christ"
One of the listings is for "Jesus H Christ"
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)KelleyKramer
(8,982 posts)... "Jesus H Christ would you stop doing that!"
blogslut
(38,016 posts)D_Master81
(1,822 posts)To make it seem like their voter suppression efforts are being done in good faith.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,414 posts)Kobach was humiliated in court when he had to admit purging voters based on how American their names sounded.