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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:28 AM Jan 2019

"IF Dems run HRC, and Howard Schultz runs as Independent, I guarantee Trump wins 2nd term"

Chris Christie just on with Stephanopolous..."IF Dems run HRC, and Howard Schultz runs as Independent, I guarantee Trump wins 2nd term." He seemed to be quite jolly with this, despite his book slamming Prince Jared.

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"IF Dems run HRC, and Howard Schultz runs as Independent, I guarantee Trump wins 2nd term" (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 OP
Yeah, I guarantee it too. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2019 #1
HRC should just retire, I do not want a repeat and I doubt the American people want it katmondoo Jan 2019 #2
She should do whatever the fuck she wants. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #3
I hope she retires Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #8
I hope she stays in politics for another twenty years. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #9
I'd take her too but smart is not the same as politically gifted Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #13
I was one of her strongest supporters in 2016 but I agree with you. honest.abe Jan 2019 #14
We disagree greatly. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #16
Disagreement happens Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #17
I'm with you and her. triron Jan 2019 #22
Tomaatoes Tomahtoes hueymahl Jan 2019 #30
Yeah, we should just give up on running the most qualified candidates. Because, misogyny. MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #31
I'm sorry you took that from my comment hueymahl Jan 2019 #33
First of all she did not lose the election! It was stolen and illegitimate. triron Jan 2019 #23
And we give a rat's ass what Christie thinks because.....? Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #4
+1 although when he had a shutdown he got a private beach out of the rzemanfl Jan 2019 #10
Chris Christie's a corrupt, dirty, lying Republican bully, Hortensis Jan 2019 #5
Not necessarily. I can see Trump voters going to Schultz mainer Jan 2019 #6
I doubt it. Their simple minds will only equate him to Starbucks budkin Jan 2019 #21
Well if Chris Christy said it, then...... MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #7
who gives a shit about what Christie says JI7 Jan 2019 #11
Christie is on tv because he is hawking his book, right? oberliner Jan 2019 #12
Oh, so like Schultz, he also has a book for sale . . . hatrack Jan 2019 #15
Yep - exactly oberliner Jan 2019 #20
FFS, Hillary isn't running. That is bullshit media speculation. However, there is a potential still_one Jan 2019 #18
Christie said if he had run against Clinton in 2016 edhopper Jan 2019 #19
And the rest of the buffet table... lame54 Jan 2019 #25
This is just more right-wing nonsense peggysue2 Jan 2019 #24
++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jan 2019 #26
if 6 were 9 0rganism Jan 2019 #27
Never missing a chance to crap on HRC Docreed2003 Jan 2019 #28
Nothing Chris Christie says has any value, whatsoever. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #29
Can't argue with the quote. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #32

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
3. She should do whatever the fuck she wants.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jan 2019

She has more than served her country and this is beyond disrespectful.

Who are you to say she should retire? Should she take up knitting? FFS.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
8. I hope she retires
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:44 AM
Jan 2019

She’s good at policy but generally bad at politics.

Of course she can do what she likes but she will never, ever be president

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
9. I hope she stays in politics for another twenty years.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:49 AM
Jan 2019

She is the smartest person in whatever room she is in.

I’ll take that over some tweeting star any day of any week of any year.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
13. I'd take her too but smart is not the same as politically gifted
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:57 AM
Jan 2019

There’s a certain amount of raw charisma you need to play this game well and I just don’t think she has that.

honest.abe

(8,680 posts)
14. I was one of her strongest supporters in 2016 but I agree with you.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jan 2019

She is not our best candidate now... and yes, charisma is part of the reason.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
16. We disagree greatly.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:07 AM
Jan 2019

Hillary doesn’t have a charisma problem. America has a misogyny problem.

Misogyny is about to get its ass kicked by some very strong and courageous women. This country needs more voices like Hillary’s.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
30. Tomaatoes Tomahtoes
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:35 PM
Jan 2019

Hillary is not charismatic to a certain segment of the population (unfortunately, a large segment) in large part because of misogyny.

Regardless of the reason, the outcome is the same, as much as I hate to say it.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
31. Yeah, we should just give up on running the most qualified candidates. Because, misogyny.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jan 2019

Not.

That's not how you make things change.

hueymahl

(2,510 posts)
33. I'm sorry you took that from my comment
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jan 2019

I was trying to agree with both of you. Of course we should run the most qualified candidates with the best chance of winning. To argue otherwise would be foolish.

triron

(22,011 posts)
23. First of all she did not lose the election! It was stolen and illegitimate.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jan 2019

I really tire of the bullshit that she was beaten. The Russians manipulated the election
(and I claim physically altered the vote counts in several states).

rzemanfl

(29,567 posts)
10. +1 although when he had a shutdown he got a private beach out of the
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:50 AM
Jan 2019

deal. What did Drumpf get? Oh, wait, news coverage. He lives for that.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Chris Christie's a corrupt, dirty, lying Republican bully,
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:41 AM
Jan 2019

and Trump-butt. I'd change the channel from any show that lowered itself to put that jerk on.

mainer

(12,023 posts)
6. Not necessarily. I can see Trump voters going to Schultz
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:42 AM
Jan 2019

because they like so-called "smart businessmen" and Trump has embarrassed even them. He gives Trump voters an alternative.
While I think Dem voters are pretty much going to ignore him.

budkin

(6,713 posts)
21. I doubt it. Their simple minds will only equate him to Starbucks
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

Which is already seen as a liberal bastion.

still_one

(92,366 posts)
18. FFS, Hillary isn't running. That is bullshit media speculation. However, there is a potential
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:12 AM
Jan 2019

candidate who is divisionary, who would help trump to a second term

Hillary made it clear a while back she was NOT go to run again. Yes, she could change her mind, but she isn't going to. The "unnamed people", who are spewing that she is considering it, are just trying to stir the pot among Democrats.

If the Democrats want a chance to win the WH in 2020, it would be will advised to choose a nominee that WASN'T involved in 2016

The ghosts of 2016, fairly or unfairly, are still alive and well.




edhopper

(33,606 posts)
19. Christie said if he had run against Clinton in 2016
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:19 AM
Jan 2019

Last edited Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)

he would have eaten her lunch.

He wouldn't have won, he would just eat her lunch, dinner and breakfast too.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
24. This is just more right-wing nonsense
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jan 2019

Hillary Clinton is not running in 2020. The right is merely ginning up the base, throwing red meat out to the rubes because the Nancy Pelosi bait has gone stale.

As for Schultz? Again, the only people who want Schultz to run are the Republicans, hoping he can siphon off Democratic votes and open the runway for the Imposter-in-Chief. The Schultz bait is a loser at the gate. How many Dems would want another inexperienced business type, commander of the coffee-makers? Maybe we, the Democratic Party, should however encourage Schultz. Seems to me he'd be a better choice for Republicans disgusted with the Trumpster, those that still believe a businessman would make a fine president.

But Hillary Clinton. Stop it already. The woman has been put through the wringer enough times for 10 lifetimes. Give it a rest.

0rganism

(23,965 posts)
27. if 6 were 9
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jan 2019

i don't think HRC runs in 2020, except maybe as a barrage balloon during early primaries

50-50 on Schultz running

and it's going to take a lot more than either of those to "guarantee" Trump wins a 2nd term.

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