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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:06 PM Aug 2012

Oligarchs are happy because most Americans have no idea what

they have done to this country and what they have lined up. American ignorance is more dangerous than David and Charles Koch. Not getting involved in the political process, willfully ignorant on the issues. What will it take to get these people angry for the right reasons or getting angry at all?

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Oligarchs are happy because most Americans have no idea what (Original Post) JRLeft Aug 2012 OP
JRLeft, anger by itself does nothing a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #1
In the reality TV era, motivating Americans may be more difficult than scaling JRLeft Aug 2012 #2
JRLeft, there is a vast difference between motivating people, and getitng them angry... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #5
An alt-currency system... that sounds awesome! Zalatix Aug 2012 #3
Exactly a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #4
Thank you for presenting that information. JRLeft Aug 2012 #6
JRLeft... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #7
JRLeft, as promised, here's a quick set of starting points a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #8
 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
1. JRLeft, anger by itself does nothing
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

A martial arts philosopher once said "Society allows you to rebel, but beware trying to question."

For my money, I figure that the way to fix things in this country goes something like this:
1.) more local alternative power (saves local folks a ton of cash, and "defunds" the right wing money system)
2.) more local foods (as above)
3.) As the FCC just cleared up a lot of bandwidth for low power AM/FM community stations, I say we ought to take them up on it. Get the message out!

If you really want to start toasting toes... then set up a gift/barter/alt-currency system.

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
5. JRLeft, there is a vast difference between motivating people, and getitng them angry...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:30 PM
Aug 2012

This is but one of the reasons I look down on Marx and his get.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
3. An alt-currency system... that sounds awesome!
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:24 PM
Aug 2012

A perfect way to destroy the life blood of the Plutocracy.

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
4. Exactly
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:29 PM
Aug 2012

If the Plutocracy has a money burn rate anywhere near that of the old Bear-Sterns, then I give them about 5 years of life, after implementation of a linked set of local currencies.

Also, local Alt currencies (if well designed) can provide a certain amount of adaptability to the community.

There are so many sources on the net, I wouldn't know where to point you. I've been setting up a gaming array, to test this out. (I'm getting paid in Pizza and Beer... I really need to start jogging.) A good starting book is "The Book Of Visions" edited by Nicholas Albery.
 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
6. Thank you for presenting that information.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:58 PM
Aug 2012

After reading about alternative currency, and how it returns the funds to the workers, it is a great idea, but citizens united has money pouring into state, county, and municipal government. Can you send me a message via inbox about your ideas on how to implement this policy?

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
7. JRLeft...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:05 PM
Aug 2012

Give me a few days to compile a list for you...

Also, I haven't hit 50 messages, so I don't know what privileges on this system are available.

Worse comes to worse, I'll post the list here.

One problem I've been having with Socialism: the dilemma of inventors (I had to touch on this for my thesis)

From 1865 until sometime in the mid 1930's there was an ongoing semi vitriolic letter writing campaing in re how capitalism and socialism renumerate technically creative people...

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