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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRoger Stone faces a gag order. He has a plan to resist it.
The political rabble-rouser has a well-known First Amendment attorney on his legal team and has designated a pair of close friends as spokesmen.
By DARREN SAMUELSOHN and JOSH GERSTEIN 01/30/2019 05:00 AM EST
Roger Stone has long feared he would be slapped with a gag order if he got indicted and hes readied a plan to make sure he wont have to stay silent.
The federal judge in Stones case, Amy Berman Jackson, has already hushed a coterie of others caught in special counsel Robert Muellers dragnet, including Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and their attorneys. They were quieted after one of the lawyers told reporters that Muellers case was ridiculous.
Jackson will have a much longer record of public commentary from Stone to work with when the longtime Donald Trump associate appears Friday afternoon for his first status hearing tied to the special counsels charges that he lied to Congress and obstructed the Houses investigation into Russian election meddling.
If Stone is gagged, his contingency plan is already in place. Hes got a well-known First Amendment attorney on his legal team who represented the rap group 2 Live Crew against obscenity charges in the early 1990s. And Stone has designated a pair of close friends as spokesmen in the event he and his lawyers are told to stop talking.
Until then, Stone wont stop chattering.
Since his arrest last Friday, Stone has been on a media blitz. He gave his first interview to the conspiracy theory website InfoWars and then addressed reporters outside the Fort Lauderdale courthouse. Hes discussed his legal defense plans during a series of interviews with the major television and cable networks, as well as in impromptu press conferences outside his South Florida home. Anyone on Stones email list got a message Monday with the subject line Lets talk about my arrest and a plea for emergency contributions to help pay his mounting legal bills.
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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/30/roger-stone-mueller-case-1136430
tanyev
(42,613 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)former9thward
(32,080 posts)All of the charges are process crimes. Under federal sentencing guidelines he is facing months not years in sentencing if found guilty.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Under the Federal Sentencing Guidelines, he's facing up to 20 years in prison.
Years, not months.
And you can dismiss them as "process crimes," but witness tampering, obstruction of justice and lying to Congress, but they ARE crimes - serious ones.
former9thward
(32,080 posts)The maximum sentence for some of the charges are 20 years. That is never applied to first time offenders and non-violent crimes. Judges have to follow specific guidelines when sentencing people for federal violations. I remember when George Papadopoulos was going to be sentenced. People said he would get five years. I said a couple months or probation. He got 2 weeks.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)It sounds like you aren't, as evidenced by, among other things, your belief that long sentences are never given to first-time offenders and non-violent offenders and that Papadopoulos' sentence for one count predicts what Stone could get or means that Stone is only looking at a few months in jail if convicted.
former9thward
(32,080 posts)Since you know about this. Let's see who is closer. Up to it?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)And since I actually have experience with and know very well the sentencing guidelines and also fully understand that a tremendous number of factors go into the prosecutor's recommendations and the judge's ultimate decision - most of which haven't even played out yet - I don't sit around on the sidelines predicting and making even friendly bets on what I think someone's going to get if they're convicted.
But feel free to predict away, if that's what you enjoy doing ...
former9thward
(32,080 posts)I am well aware of the many factors and of other things which may arise later. But any lawyer who could not predict to a client what the probable sentence might should not be practicing. In fact they are guilty of malpractice. How in the world could a lawyer give an opinion to a client on a potential plea deal if they have "no idea" of what they face if found guilty. I predict 6-9 months if found guilty on all charges.
onenote
(42,759 posts)be malpractice.
The federal courts often treat obstruction of justice charges, even involving a first-time, non-violent offender, as serious crimes warranting serious punishment:
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-baca-sentenced-jail-sheriff-corruption-20170512-story.html
https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmo/pr/liberty-attorney-sentenced-stealing-victim-restitution-funds
former9thward
(32,080 posts)So speculating on a discussion board, educated or not, is not malpractice. I gave my prediction based on my experience. Other people, and I have no idea what experience they have, if any, have said "life" or "20 years". Fine, we will see...
onenote
(42,759 posts)Just as I didn't think you were suggesting EffieBlack was committing malpractice when she wrote that she didn't know what sentence Stone might receive.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)If not, failure to accurately predict a possible sentence will hardly leave you open to malpractice liability. And if you're not representing Stone and not personally and intimately familiar with him, the evidence against him, his interactions with the prosecutor, his intentions moving forward or what he charged he'll eventually be convicted of, your opinion is no more informed than that of any other lawyer whose knowledge of the case, like yours, is limited to what they learned about in the media..
former9thward
(32,080 posts)You attack me for giving an opinion (even though you said "But feel free to predict away" but you ignore all the rest who are giving their opinions. Is it because their opinion is what you want to see and mine is not? We will see what happens in court.
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Witness tampering and lying to Congress have max sentences of multiple years.
Guess we will have to wait and see.
former9thward
(32,080 posts)Even though posters are predicting 20 years or "life" in some threads. Why do people always quote what the maximum sentence is? Since almost no one ever gets it or even close?
mucifer
(23,565 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Couldn't keep Roger from the federal pen.
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)Why do I feel like this is a recap of a Scooby-doo episode and not an investigation into a criminal enterprise, that has resulted in 34 indictments and guilt pleas thus far, that is threatening our Democracy?
blogslut
(38,016 posts)With that crazy crowd and cameras waiting, he made a beeline to his car.