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demmiblue

(36,865 posts)
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:33 PM Aug 2012

Dee Snider To Paul Ryan: We’re Not Gonna Take Your Use Of Our Music

Source: TPM



Rock singer Dee Snider is incensed with Paul Ryan for playing his 1984 hit “We’re Not Gonna Take It” as his intro music at a Pennsylvania rally on Tuesday.

“I emphatically denounce Paul Ryan’s use of my band Twisted Sister’s song, ‘We’re Not Gonna Take It,’ in any capacity,” Snider told TPM in a statement relayed by his manager Tuesday. “There is almost nothing he stands for that I agree with except the use of the P90X.”


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Dee Snider To Paul Ryan: We’re Not Gonna Take Your Use Of Our Music (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2012 OP
I like his statement - and boy, he looks better than he did 30 years ago! spooky3 Aug 2012 #1
For some reason I thought Dee was a Republican. dawg Aug 2012 #2
I recall him speaking at the PMRC hearings and he was very anti what the group stood for Mike Daniels Aug 2012 #6
Everyone in music opposed the PMRC though. JoeyT Aug 2012 #66
Don't forget that one of the prime shakers and movers in the PMRC was Tipper Gore ET Awful Aug 2012 #67
C'mon, GOP, you've got the whole Ted Nugent and Lee Greenwood catalog ripe for picking. tanyev Aug 2012 #3
You forgot Hank Williams and Kid Rock ... LOL cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #5
Ooh, and Megadeth! tanyev Aug 2012 #7
Yeah, if there was any question about whether Dave Mustaine has done to many drugs... D23MIURG23 Aug 2012 #55
He traded one addiction for another pstokely Aug 2012 #62
you might mean Hank Williams, Jr. ... mike dub Aug 2012 #27
Hank Williams Sr. would be disgusted WestWisconsinDem Aug 2012 #28
HW3 seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders.. frylock Aug 2012 #29
Hank III... RT_Fanatic Aug 2012 #30
he looks a lot more like his grandfather than his father. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #54
thats good, because his dad looks like --> IrishAle Aug 2012 #57
You can't fall off a mountain OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #63
Yes, indeed I did. cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #45
Bwahahaha slim pickings there! nt Raine Aug 2012 #9
Oh I don't know.. I think this tune is perfectly appropriate for Ryan.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #10
Yeah, mini mitt needs to pick one Cha Aug 2012 #11
Songs bongbong Aug 2012 #16
Here's some more music the rotmoney campaign Cha Aug 2012 #19
Don't forget MEGASTAR Pat Boone! pacalo Aug 2012 #17
Oh god you made me gag and spew japple Aug 2012 #33
Ugh. Will they EVER stop playing Lee Greenwood? It's so cringe inducing. reformist2 Aug 2012 #18
+1 And don't forget Kirk Cameron and Marie Osmond! woo me with science Aug 2012 #25
Say what you will ... that girl can sing !!!! cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #46
What an endless and drab production. immoderate Aug 2012 #51
Nope, they'd rather poach the better stuff. They don't have anything on their end calimary Aug 2012 #37
Wow. I really thought Dee Snyder was a major conservative Siwsan Aug 2012 #4
Same here. They played for Schwarteneger's inaugural. Gregorian Aug 2012 #14
Don't forget FatAss Limbaugh's wedding RT_Fanatic Aug 2012 #32
They were getting Paid for the Limbaugh Wedding JI7 Aug 2012 #61
It seems like hardly a week goes by The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2012 #8
I like that when they've used it without permission Cha Aug 2012 #15
That's a damn good question to ask the rotters.. Cha Aug 2012 #21
Romney, Ryan and Akin need to get a Music Permission Slip cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #12
what is thie "ryan's group is reviewing the rewuest" crap? hollysmom Aug 2012 #13
Stanley Steamer says NO! Politicalboi Aug 2012 #20
I've thought for a while that poison pills might be the answer starroute Aug 2012 #22
+1...great idea! Drum Aug 2012 #59
THANK YOU MR. SNIDER Skittles Aug 2012 #23
Lines: "We've got the RIGHT TO CHOOSE and There ain't no way we'll lose it". Ryan's team can't read Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #24
Akin's team is illiterate too: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #39
Silly Republicans - when are you going to learn that most musicians are liberals? Initech Aug 2012 #26
Well that just leaves the crap that Nugent and Mustaine play. Hee hee hee. SunSeeker Aug 2012 #31
Thank you Dee... Historic NY Aug 2012 #34
HAHAHAHAAHA zappaman Aug 2012 #35
Great to hear, and not the first time he's been right on these issues. DemInBuckhead Aug 2012 #36
They probably could use The Wizard Aug 2012 #38
WTG Dee skeewee08 Aug 2012 #40
Why do repukes ALWAYS steal music? Zoeisright Aug 2012 #41
I'm convinced it's just another P.O. the Left tactic IDemo Aug 2012 #50
Not to defend the Repubes....but the music they play before the show is like a radio station.... cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #58
no, it's not unreasonable SemperEadem Aug 2012 #60
I'm plenty educated on it but you're putting words in my mouth. cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #68
Right on Dee sarcasmo Aug 2012 #42
Some waggish muso should come up with a pro-Repig hifiguy Aug 2012 #43
Wayne Newton is a republican. sadbear Aug 2012 #44
Wayne Newton is an alien... rasputin1952 Aug 2012 #56
Since no one else has posted this yet ... Tx4obama Aug 2012 #47
No Wonder Hank Jr. is all wrought up and spoutin' off... cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #48
Love it! Lifelong Protester Aug 2012 #49
You bet your ass they can. hifiguy Aug 2012 #53
Romney will always have Hank Jr., Ted Nugent, and Pat Boone. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #52
Wow rks306 Aug 2012 #64
I liked that guy upi402 Aug 2012 #65

dawg

(10,624 posts)
2. For some reason I thought Dee was a Republican.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:38 PM
Aug 2012

Either I was wrong, or that has changed. Either way, more power to him!

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
6. I recall him speaking at the PMRC hearings and he was very anti what the group stood for
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:45 PM
Aug 2012

Apparently, he was also quite the hit and very articulate about his points.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
66. Everyone in music opposed the PMRC though.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:02 AM
Aug 2012

I'm not sure that would make someone more likely to be a Democrat or less likely to be a Republican.

The PMRC was pretty much Tipper and a bunch of her friends on a holy crusade.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
67. Don't forget that one of the prime shakers and movers in the PMRC was Tipper Gore
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:56 AM
Aug 2012

That entire battle wasn't always a party-line battle

tanyev

(42,568 posts)
3. C'mon, GOP, you've got the whole Ted Nugent and Lee Greenwood catalog ripe for picking.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:40 PM
Aug 2012

What's the problem?

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
55. Yeah, if there was any question about whether Dave Mustaine has done to many drugs...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:34 AM
Aug 2012

it got settled when he endorsed Santorum.

Megadeth sucks anyway. On the (rare) occasion I want to listen to speed metal, I'd take sepultura over them any day.

mike dub

(541 posts)
27. you might mean Hank Williams, Jr. ...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:24 PM
Aug 2012

Hank Williams (daddy) had more talent, and probably wouldn't have spouted teabag nonsense to the press like Bocephus does.

 

WestWisconsinDem

(127 posts)
28. Hank Williams Sr. would be disgusted
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:30 PM
Aug 2012

No way he would in any way be associated with this teabagger crowd. And yes, Hank Williams had more talent in his pickin' fingers than Bocephus has in his whole bloated, ugly self.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
29. HW3 seems to have a pretty good head on his shoulders..
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:34 PM
Aug 2012

looks to take after his grandad rather than his dumbass father.

IrishAle

(62 posts)
57. thats good, because his dad looks like -->
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

<-- My Stool, if I soaked it in booze and coke for 30 years.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
11. Yeah, mini mitt needs to pick one
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:49 PM
Aug 2012

of ted nugent's songs. Certainly there's something there?

Can Dee Snider make them stop using their music? I remember some music john mccain was using that was protested by those who created it but I don't know if they actually Stopped.

Edit: spelling

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
16. Songs
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:01 PM
Aug 2012

> Yeah, mini mitt needs to pick one of ted nugent's songs. Certainly there's something there?

How about his multi-platinum hit "I'm A Shit-Filled Coward"?

Cha

(297,323 posts)
19. Here's some more music the rotmoney campaign
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:05 PM
Aug 2012

is being told to stop playing it..

snip..

"Washington (CNN) -- Mitt Romney's campaign can now point to at least one thing it has in common with Ronald Reagan's -- a musical act is asking it to stop using its music at campaign stops.

The rock band Silversun Pickups this week served Romney's campaign with a cease-and-desist order after it says Romney's campaign used its song "Panic Switch" at an event earlier this month.

"Seems as if the GOP is once again whimsically ignoring our great nation's laws to do whatever it wants to do, and shooting itself in the foot in the process," band representative Ken Weinstein said in a statement."


More..
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/politics/music-in-campaigns/index.html

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
51. What an endless and drab production.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:04 AM
Aug 2012

Yes Marie can sing, and in not too many years she will be as old as me.

--imm

calimary

(81,322 posts)
37. Nope, they'd rather poach the better stuff. They don't have anything on their end
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:15 PM
Aug 2012

that makes sense, goes over with the blue-haired crowd, or isn't run into the ground like lee greenwood's smarmy nausea-anthem. And it's just very much who they are, intrinsically. Just Plain Dishonest!

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
4. Wow. I really thought Dee Snyder was a major conservative
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:40 PM
Aug 2012

Didn't he support McCain?

I think the GOP is going to have to resort to playing playing Pat Boone and Hank Williams music, with a touch of Chicken Hawk Nugent.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
14. Same here. They played for Schwarteneger's inaugural.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:53 PM
Aug 2012

But then that may not be indicative of their politics.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
8. It seems like hardly a week goes by
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:45 PM
Aug 2012

without some GOPer using music without permission and then getting a stern letter from the band's lawyer or an equally stern lecture from the musician.

Maybe it's because the GOPers don't have any good music - all they have is Ted Nugent, Hank Williams Jr. and a few other washed-up country singers.

But you'd think by this time they'd at least have enough sense to get permission before using a song. Yet they do this, over and over. Aren't they a teeny bit embarrassed? I guess it takes a lot to embarrass a GOPer.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
15. I like that when they've used it without permission
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:00 PM
Aug 2012

The Band gets up and calls them out and tells America they stand for nothing like paul ryan does.

I hope they have legal standing to make them cease and desist. I know if the Obama Campaign was using some music that the copyright owners didn't want played and associated with them..they would stop. Course, the O Campaign might even check it out FIRST.

Here's a bunch of bands that didn't even want mccain and palin playing their music at campaign stops..

"In 2008, the band Heart asked the campaign to stop playing its song "Barracuda" in honor of vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin's nickname on her high school basketball team, "Sarah Barracuda."

The band even went on national television to express its outrage.

"Sarah Palin's views and values in no way represent us as American women," Ann and Nancy Wilson told Entertainment Weekly. "We ask that our song 'Barracuda' no longer be used to promote her image."

McCain also settled out of court with Jackson Browne for using his 1977 hit "Running on Empty" in a campaign ad without the artist's permission.

Foo Fighters, John Mellencamp and Boston asked McCain and other candidates to stop using their music."


http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/politics/music-in-campaigns/index.html

Cha

(297,323 posts)
21. That's a damn good question to ask the rotters..
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:07 PM
Aug 2012

when they're playing music that belongs to Reality Based Musicians.. "Don't your supporters have any songs you can play WITH PERMISSION?!

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
12. Romney, Ryan and Akin need to get a Music Permission Slip
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:50 PM
Aug 2012

Good luck with that! Maybe they need to try Mitt's musical tastes. Pat Boone? Andre Crouch? There's a whole genre of religious music out there, some of it not half bad. But Rage Against the Machine and Twisted Sister ... LOL

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
13. what is thie "ryan's group is reviewing the rewuest" crap?
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 06:52 PM
Aug 2012

Just stop using his music - how rude they are. I hope he charges them an arm and a leg for each time they used it so far!!!

PS, met him, he is a sweetheart.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
22. I've thought for a while that poison pills might be the answer
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:12 PM
Aug 2012

Let the band re-record the song with lyrics that say derogatory or even obscene things about the Republican candidate who's ripped them off. Release it on YouTube as a freebie, encourage it to go viral -- and at that point, nobody will be able to hear the tune without having the new lyrics run through their mind.

Artists have more power than they realize.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,009 posts)
24. Lines: "We've got the RIGHT TO CHOOSE and There ain't no way we'll lose it". Ryan's team can't read
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:21 PM
Aug 2012

Ryan's team can't read or think.

Lines 4 and 5: [font size = +1]"We've got the right to choose and There ain't no way we'll lose it".[/font]

Ryan's team endorse pro-choice lyrics in the week that Akin breaks and the GOP denies abortions to rape and incest victims in its platform. They are nuts.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
35. HAHAHAHAAHA
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:10 PM
Aug 2012

Let MEGADETH soundtrack the campaign.
Dave "Moran" Mustaine could certainly use the money!

DemInBuckhead

(111 posts)
36. Great to hear, and not the first time he's been right on these issues.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:11 PM
Aug 2012

John Rocker used to come into Braves games to "I Wanna Rock". After the whole controversy with Rocker's Sports Illustrated article, the guys from Twisted Sister made it clear they did not want Rocker to continue using that song.

http://articles.courant.com/2000-01-19/features/0001191221_1_snider-gays-and-minorities-sports-illustrated

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
41. Why do repukes ALWAYS steal music?
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 08:51 PM
Aug 2012

This has come up in every single campaign. They either think they're above the law, that what they want they can just take, or they are really that stupid.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
50. I'm convinced it's just another P.O. the Left tactic
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:07 PM
Aug 2012

This happens with far too much regularity for it to be just a mistake.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
58. Not to defend the Repubes....but the music they play before the show is like a radio station....
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 02:10 PM
Aug 2012

and all the music is just there and available for them to choose from, pretty much any song you can think of and they pay a miniscule royalty to be able to play, like 10 cents per song or whatever.

It's unreasonable for them to ask every artist if they agree with the music being played during the 3-4 hours they spend herding people in there and having the show and herding them out. If a song is on the list they consider it fair game, which it is. It is up to the artist to specifically state if there is an event they would prefer not use their songs. As far as I know, they may not always win, depending on who the publisher of the music is. The publisher can usually use the songs however THEY want.

For the record, I love it when artists do this and tell the Repubes to stop playing their music and it is great publicity for our side....but unfortunatly it isn't really stealing.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
60. no, it's not unreasonable
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:07 AM
Aug 2012

it's called doing their due diligence.

and no, they just can't pick a song and play it with the attitude of "fuck you, we're playing it".

You need to educate yourself on P.R.O.'s and the law concerning them.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
68. I'm plenty educated on it but you're putting words in my mouth.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:31 AM
Aug 2012

I never said they coudl say "fuck you" and play whatever they want against the artists wishes.

Most musicians are happy to have as many fans as they can get and are happy to have anyone playing their music. It is only a small handful over the past 10 years who have risen up and asked for their songs to stop being played at particular times. For all we know, this is a ploy by Dee Snyder to just get publicity, one of his MO especially after seeing the other band do this and make front page news a few weeks ago.

Again "due diligence" makes the assumption that all artists have an opinion on whether or not their songs are played, and seeing as how we only have a handful of musicians stepping up to have their music removed from certain playlists, there really is no need for "due diligence" here. They aren't breaking any laws or trying to tie musicians to their campaigns, they are using their music to get people excited, which is what the artists created it for.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
43. Some waggish muso should come up with a pro-Repig
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:46 PM
Aug 2012

song, hang a name like "Cleveland Steamer" on it and donate it to Willard. Laffs galore!

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
48. No Wonder Hank Jr. is all wrought up and spoutin' off...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 10:36 PM
Aug 2012

he's saying all the right things for these guys and they just don't want to "take him to the prom". Honky tonk beer-drinking bar music has its sh**-kicking place, but it's hard to imagine Mitt and Paul running onstage to .... "Are you ready for a Party....." LOL

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
53. You bet your ass they can.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 12:26 AM
Aug 2012

Heart did it in 2008 when Grifterella was using "Barracuda." Ann and Nancy Wilson went ballistic and sicced their intellectual property lawyers on Grampy's campaign. The song was promptly dropped.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
65. I liked that guy
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:19 AM
Aug 2012

even when I was mostly into jazz and R&B.

Now I find out he hates Paul Lyan and is a fitness nut. Looks like he might be pretty cut.

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