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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat can we expect when the crippled gop get 4 more years of Barack Obama?
I've been wrong, several times, but I'm betting $10,000 that there's no way romney/ryan/akin can win now that the rock has been overturned and the ugly side of the gop has been so glaringly exposed, (Thank you Lord)!, I'm beginning to think the only way the assholes can win is the old tried and true republican way, CHEATING.
I think we're seeing the total implosion, the titanic sinking of the republican party, they've been eaten alive from within, and it's all their own damn fault, no one else to blame, not even Obama.
It's a gift from the Democratic God! Maybe todd akin's big mouth has turned things around completely toward our side by revealing the horror of a romney/ryan/rape/akin run nation.
I know I'm not supposed to count the chickens, or votes yet, but if the election were held next week............?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)The States and congressional districts they control will do crazy things. Their Governors, mayors, and state legislators will help.
They will become pockets of crazy.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)They won't double down on the crazy, they'll sextuple down..
In the immortal words of Bachman Turner Overdrive, you ain't seen nothing yet..
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)In the places I've gone through, those pockets have been around for at least 15 years.
I'm hoping that those pockets will be small, and very isolated.
Turbineguy
(37,345 posts)is to get the GOP in power, find out they have nothing to retire on and die young because of their health care policies.
And then they will blame their problems on Democrats.
monmouth
(21,078 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)Blaming everyone but themselves, taking their toys and going home, pouting, brooding, griping, grousing, moping, scowling, glooming, glowering and making frowny faces all over the place
tanyev
(42,572 posts)No way they go down easy.
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)and wait them out...
randome
(34,845 posts)I expect the same from the GOP. They will continue to be a force in politics but in ever diminishing measures.
Until one day, someone will Twitter: "Is the GOP running any candidates this year?"
chknltl
(10,558 posts)That is dreaming big too! My God, can you imagine such a world-a world where in the US the Dems and the Greens were both fighting for the progressive votes and the Republicans were a distant fourth party tucked way behind the Independents.
We fight ancient foes but someday, hopefully before this planet is too ravaged, we will defeat greed, fear and ignorance.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)with them. Sociopathy is a way of life for tens of millions of people in this country. More than a few will act on it.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)Perhaps history lends credence to what you say. After we left Viet Nam, the new government forced many tens of thousands of 'South Vietnamese' into re-education camps.
In my heart I hope for the peaceful transition but......
Considering the likelihood of misguided 'patriotism', considering the fear consumed from the propagandists and considering how well armed many within our electorate are, the transition could indeed get nightmarish.
Otoh I just can't see American citizens, even the wingnut, strapping on vests of dynamite and heading off to our churches and malls in order to take back their country.
......so I just don't know how our future will play out. That notion-that fantasy if you will, the one where Republicans had very little to say in American affairs, that put a smile on my face and made me feel all warm and fuzzy. WE KNOW the difference between right and wrong, THAT vision is the right one.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)My hope is a new party arises, conservative, yes, but not crazy. I'm hoping that the majority of conservatives start seeing this as being Americans first and Republicans second. Not the other way around.
nevergiveup
(4,762 posts)If they regain the Senate and hold onto the House they will not be crippled. Obama will spend the next two years vetoing right wing knee-jerk bills.
musiclawyer
(2,335 posts)and we will ahve enough to take back the house and keep the senate. Then it's up to Harry Reid to go Nuclear. Only way anything gets done and we TKO the GOP for good.
trof
(54,256 posts)If there is voting manipulation by repugs (Did I really say IF?), Obama will not roll over like Gore and Kerry 'for the good of the country'.
He will be in there with both feet and a team of damn good attorneys and IT WILL TAKE AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO COUNT THE VOTES!
THAT'S what must be done 'for the GOOD of the country'.
That's my fervent hope.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)That sure helps our President. Not.
Thankfully, Obama is very classy and shows more respect for Gore and Kerry than most ever will. More power to him.
He will do what is right instead of tearing down good Dems.
Philosoraptor
(15,019 posts)And I hope its a trend, cause he has good footwork, he just needs more tko's.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)Revolutions aren't fun at ALL.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)By my personal estimate.
And no, that won't be fun, at ALL.
a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)Most of the Radical Religious Rightwing nutjobs are really good about talking armed rebellion. They're even good at local murders. They're dumb bullies, plain and simple
Let them meet actual resistance, and they quickly fold.
As an example, I often use this script:
"I'm supporting abortion to kill the baby jesus" (pause while staring at them) "Make your move."
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)a geek named Bob
(2,715 posts)has a pretty good handle on the really crazy ones (the ones with sniper scoped .50 cal BMG and such)
One of the ways I can gauge the social tempo, is how many visits do I get to my personal workshop (I play with rockets).
If the crazies start huffing and puffing up again, I figure the forces of Law and Order will put a spike through their act pretty quickly.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)They will cry that the sky is falling.
Hannity and Rush might shed a tear on TV for ratings.
That's about it.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)I've seen their prices TRIPLE since President Obama got in office.
That was before law enforcement started buying them, too.
Archae
(46,337 posts)They'll impeach Obama. For anything they can make up.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)security leaks? Drone attacks? Taking money out of Medicare? What crazy shit will they come up with?
They might stick with an impeach Holder show trial. But I think they will go balls to the wall with impeachment.
Of course this means they hold the house. If they do, we might have more luck getting it back in 2014. Gawd, as the years tick by I can't belive the American people are so stupid as to elect these assholes.
If we win the house and hold it in 2014 we might get something done. Otherwise we are screwed.
former-republican
(2,163 posts)That would truly back fire on them.
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)If Obama gets re-elected, they will really be miserable. They've done everything they can to smear the President and his family, and none of it is true. (Not that lying would slow them down.)
A gun nut at the post office the other day told me they were gonna have a revolt in January. This of course is rumor, not fact. The only thing I could think of that would set off a revolt would be Obama's second inauguration. This idiot told me those poor people in the big city (who do not have cars or gas money, btw) were gonna come to the country and take our stuff away.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)They've gotten most of what they wanted, legislatively.
The anger from Republicans out in the country? That is driven by desperation over the economic theft, coupled with utter misunderstanding of why it's actually happening...thanks to the corporate-owned MSM.
ANewEra
(50 posts)The splitting up of the Republican Party. On one side of have the remnants of any moderate Republicans that may still exist, and on the other the Tea Party becoming a party in its own right.
Initech
(100,081 posts)Even though they have no grounds to do so other than crazy conspiracy theories. They're stupid and insane enough and driven by our echo chamber media that they won't hesitate.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)but a huge uptick in Aurora style massacres and stochastic terrorism. Count on it.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Good and hard.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)More bipartisan police state legislation and war, too.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)directly in their face. Just smile at them and watch them coward away.
Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)to get the repukes to disenfranchise the teabaggers on the right. It would take us winning both houses with filibuster proof majorities. It's nice to dream about, but it's not going to happen.
hay rick
(7,625 posts)More obstruction on behalf of the rich. The stupidity and cupidity of the folks that signed up to represent the rich is just a sideshow.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)If they simply ran a real conservative and not a liberal like Romney, they would have won in a landslide, because America wants a real Conservative.
They will say that Obama Cheated by hiring illegal aliens to cast votes for him.
They will say that the U.S. has been destroyed by Socialists who just want a free handout.
They will then threaten to secede from the union.
Finally, they will piss in their Wheaties and say something real stupid.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)There are too many brainwashed, deluded, and flat-out crazy people out there, many of whom are armed to the teeth. It will be even worse if the repigs take the righteous walloping at the polls that they so deserve.
The crazy runs deep and broad in this country and it has for a long time. The hate radio/reichwing religion machine has created a vast number of zombies who can do nothing but despise everyone who do not "think" the way they do. 'T ain't gonna be pretty, McGee.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Obstruction, witch hunts, economy stagnant.
It may actually hurt more to have him win than lose at this point because we're not getting the house back and still may lose the senate.
I just don't trust the Republicans to do the right thing if they get back into power. These teabaggers are serious about destroying the country whereas the neo- cons just paid lip service to it and spent like crazy. I made great money under Bush because he spent money on construction projects, something they will not allow Obama to do. Normally I would expect them to do all things they wouldn't let him do so they can claim savior status. But not this crop of nuts. They're hell bent on destruction.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)that the Repigs should immolate while a black man is President. Forget about the 'Democratic God', we're talking a far more primitive God of Irony. Holy shit.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Beware of hubris.
But laugh at the GOP all the same.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)Demographic trends are not in their favor, and they know it. Hence their desperate tone.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)they win.