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TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:48 AM Jan 2019

MSNBC sacks Steve Schmidt after he begins advising 'spoiler' Howard Schultz on presidential run

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Bye Motherfucker!

MSNBC has reportedly cut ties with political analyst Steve Schmidt because he is advising billionaire Howard Schultz on a possible independent bid for the U.S. presidency.

According to the Free Beacon, MSNBC is dropping Schmidt as a contributor after Schultz this week appeared to be moving forward with his presidential plans.

Earlier this week, journalist Eleanor Clift criticized Schmidt for supporting a possible “spoiler” in the presidential race.

“And the danger is, you’re going to elect the candidate you least want to elect,” Clift warned on Sunday. “Steve Schmidt has spent the last two years kind of apologizing for his role in getting Sarah Palin on the ticket with John McCain.”

“I think he’d think long and hard about being part of another effort that could well turn out not like wants it to,” she added.


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/msnbc-sacks-steve-schmidt-begins-advising-spoiler-howard-schultz-presidential-run-report/

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MSNBC sacks Steve Schmidt after he begins advising 'spoiler' Howard Schultz on presidential run (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 OP
whaaaatttt??? samnsara Jan 2019 #1
He was never our friend; he just hated tRump. shanny Jan 2019 #14
This. CrispyQ Jan 2019 #30
I think they'll all wander back home. I don't know that a single soul has actually been saved. calimary Jan 2019 #116
The enemy of my enemy is my tool or weapon. No more than that. Blue_Adept Feb 2019 #124
He wants the same thing Roger Stone does ToxMarz Jan 2019 #35
He and Stone just wanted "a horse to race." Such an apt metaphor. erronis Jan 2019 #39
You said it! True Blue American Jan 2019 #104
Exactly... disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #126
Exactly right. DesertRat Feb 2019 #130
About damn time! agingdem Jan 2019 #19
YES! Rubin, Jolly, Frum (gag) all love Republican ideas, are against the New Deal "entitlements," CharleyDog Jan 2019 #101
The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. Baitball Blogger Jan 2019 #85
Whoa. MontanaMama Jan 2019 #2
Then, the metamorphisis would be complete! TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #4
I was hoping someone would MontanaMama Jan 2019 #5
I'm not so sure. Jarqui Jan 2019 #6
Not a chance leftynyc Jan 2019 #20
Good, if he goes to Fox, he'll be selling his candidate to Trump voters Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #128
I would be upset with them if they didn't can him. 2naSalit Jan 2019 #3
Good Steve Schmidt is a RWNJ...... stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #7
He was a convenient ally. Convenient for him. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #114
& corporate media.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #127
You can't wear an analyst shoe on one foot and advocate shoe on the other?? IADEMO2004 Jan 2019 #8
Good. (nt) Paladin Jan 2019 #9
never get fooled by a former republican. I am totally unshocked. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #10
+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #17
I trust absolutely none of them. Well, maybe Max Boot... NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #22
i started reading his book barbtries Jan 2019 #48
This is the thread winner malaise Jan 2019 #80
Same here. People should not be surprised at all. Hortensis Jan 2019 #98
Yeah Gothmog Jan 2019 #11
Just curious what the oligarchs watoos Jan 2019 #12
Listened to him on the Nicole Wallace show yesterday. lark Jan 2019 #13
What happened to Schmidt's Arm? True Blue American Jan 2019 #55
Don't know, I was distracted by Wallace's laugh as well. lark Jan 2019 #92
I just read that Nicole True Blue American Jan 2019 #95
That is 100% opposite from what I saw yesterday. lark Jan 2019 #99
That's how I saw it too, not only in her words which moonscape Jan 2019 #111
Thank you True Blue American Feb 2019 #121
He broke his arm masturbating while listening to Schultz. madinmaryland Jan 2019 #112
S.O.P. for news networks RandySF Jan 2019 #15
Wait, the guy who brought Sarah Palin to the forefront did something repukey? NightWatcher Jan 2019 #16
Bad move by Schmidt. Tossing away his successful career as an MSNBC guest pundit stopbush Jan 2019 #18
I would think for many of the pundits/analysts on msnbc, cnn, fox, it's a side gig. Fla Dem Jan 2019 #43
He's a whore TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #81
When Schultz totally quits, Schmidt can probably be a barrista in one of Schultz's shops rurallib Jan 2019 #109
Watch all of them: Polly Hennessey Jan 2019 #21
THIS. It is hard for people to change their basic beliefs. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2019 #23
You forgot Morning Joe. Joe and the entire show. dem4decades Jan 2019 #25
Yes . There is a fundamental misunderstanding of human behavior Kurt V. Jan 2019 #54
I'm sure Steve Schmidt has his rationalization... Taraman Jan 2019 #24
Good point. One of his big ideas was always how both sides didn't get along. McCain Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #40
He's right-wing. Nope he just took the money. Which way is the wind blowing rockfordfile Jan 2019 #41
+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #47
I said a while ago that MSNBC will regret hiring never Trumpers Blaukraut Jan 2019 #26
Agree. Atticus Jan 2019 #33
The desired result was accomplished.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #129
Scary thought, but almost better than what's in the WH now n/t Blaukraut Feb 2019 #132
With all due respect, this is being reported by Raw Story, which glommed off a story in... DontBooVote Jan 2019 #27
He's an articulate idealist. He is a true patriot. And he's so wrong on this. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2019 #28
I agree. dchill Jan 2019 #74
Just means he isn't on their payroll, he can now be classified as a spokesman bigbrother05 Jan 2019 #29
I really liked his righteous rants against Idiot. MoonRiver Jan 2019 #31
Schmidt knows trump will be gone by 2020 and... Bonhomme Richard Jan 2019 #32
Just heard on Stephanie wryter2000 Jan 2019 #34
Stephanie Miller Show Traildogbob Jan 2019 #52
Wasn't that great? wryter2000 Jan 2019 #71
Kevin is a sweetheart, horn dog, but sweetheart Traildogbob Jan 2019 #93
Lordy wryter2000 Jan 2019 #96
Regular listener here too mountain grammy Jan 2019 #100
Should have listened closer. True Blue American Jan 2019 #57
NEVER trust a pubican DirtEdonE Jan 2019 #36
Wow, I was just going to point that out. milestogo Jan 2019 #108
Oh that sucks, IMHO. Despite his politics, I think he is very intelligent. MSNBC IQ just dipped. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #37
Good riddance! nt B Stieg Jan 2019 #38
He's still a republican. louis-t Jan 2019 #42
He did, he's a registered Independent/non-affiliated voter DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #94
never ever trust never-trumpers. never. none. Kurt V. Jan 2019 #44
I think they would consider it a conflict of interest, no matter who he was supporting? kentuck Jan 2019 #45
Exactly. Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #56
It's embarrassing to the people on here who continue to push these right-wing extremist rockfordfile Jan 2019 #46
Sarah.Palin JenniferJuniper Jan 2019 #49
GOOD. There are plenty of people they can have on who hate Trump and lilactime Jan 2019 #50
I I like Donny Deutsch. True Blue American Jan 2019 #58
I do too. lilactime Jan 2019 #59
Did you find corroboration for this story from POS right-wing rag Washington Free Beacon? DontBooVote Jan 2019 #60
Huh? lilactime Jan 2019 #62
The original source for this story is the right-wing POS Washington Free Beacon. I'm asking DontBooVote Jan 2019 #66
I took the post at face value. I didn't notice where it was from. And I don't lilactime Jan 2019 #67
Hey, I was just asking because I've asked the OP, to no avail. I was not singling you out. Geez! DontBooVote Jan 2019 #68
Quit being so hostile to posters obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #113
My problem is that there is no corroboration for this story and this thread is making DU look... DontBooVote Feb 2019 #131
As of 2:00 pm EST, Washington Free Beacon is still the only source per Google news search. hedda_foil Jan 2019 #79
Well, thank you for at least doing the background work to find out if this story is true. I agree DontBooVote Jan 2019 #84
Any other source besides a POS right-wing rag for this story? DontBooVote Jan 2019 #51
start voting now by not spending money at starbucks isitreal Jan 2019 #53
He's the Former CEO of Starbucks ... doesn't work there anymore. mr_lebowski Jan 2019 #82
Schmidt was on Maher a few times shanti Jan 2019 #61
And let's not forget who he got on the US Supreme Court.......................he was responsible turbinetree Jan 2019 #63
While it is always great fun watching him tear Trump apart, airmid Jan 2019 #64
WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING...never trusted him one iota. Good riddance. BamaRefugee Jan 2019 #65
77 recs (so far) for a story from a questionable source. Anyone? Please? A credible source, please? DontBooVote Jan 2019 #69
I'm not finding one, either. nt Habibi Jan 2019 #83
I"m still looking and, still, nothing except this story that originated with a right-wing POS DontBooVote Jan 2019 #86
Odd that hardly anyone has responded to your multiple posts about this. nt Habibi Jan 2019 #87
It is extremely odd. And the recs and excited replies just keep coming. I don't get it. nt DontBooVote Jan 2019 #89
He's a "replorable"? CCExile Jan 2019 #70
Why is there no discussion or debate about if he would actually help Republicans win...or Democrats? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #72
I think he's craven enough to be positioning this guy as the Trump replacement for 2020. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #73
Well, that is a different scenario of course LiberalLovinLug Jan 2019 #90
Steve Schmidt did an awesome job on MSNBC... Sloumeau Jan 2019 #75
Bad and ...good? Democrats_win Jan 2019 #76
I am glad that MSNBC fired Schmidt Gothmog Jan 2019 #77
Is there any other source besides Washington Free Beacon for this story? DontBooVote Jan 2019 #88
Steve Schmidt pamdb Jan 2019 #78
As a contributor to MSNBC, he must have been on decent money. He must be earning some ransom to OnDoutside Jan 2019 #91
I have not found any other True Blue American Jan 2019 #97
We have to remember that people like Schmidt Marie Marie Jan 2019 #102
For sure. Nicole True Blue American Jan 2019 #103
Yea he wasn't much of a Democrat anyway. pwb Jan 2019 #105
Good Owl Jan 2019 #106
I know, it is crazy. He has been so harsh on Trump and now this . . . . wtf? pdsimdars Jan 2019 #107
Secretly helping Donald Trump is a good reason Progressive dog Jan 2019 #110
Whoa. I didn't see that coming. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #115
Rat-Fucker Schmidt. No more Starbucks for me ! Pepsidog Jan 2019 #117
Enemy of my enemy is still Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #118
Eleanor rarely gets it wrong. DFW Feb 2019 #119
i want this to not be true. dchill Feb 2019 #120
Steve Schmidt will end up helping to re-elect Donald Trump. UCmeNdc Feb 2019 #122
DU's favorite republicon? RandiFan1290 Feb 2019 #123
Oh man.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #125

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
1. whaaaatttt???
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:50 AM
Jan 2019

…...I liked him! And if ALL the G-D-M-EFFING cable news channels..including MSNBC...would just STFU about Schultz he would probably fade back into the wood work. BUT every GD news show has hosts clutching pearls and wailiiiiiing. Hes making less news here in Wash State where hes from (and yes so what if hes friends with Kenny G...sigh...Im sure he and macklamore have hung out too) than what cable news shows are giving him credit for.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
14. He was never our friend; he just hated tRump.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jan 2019

Why? Because tRump hurts the party he believes in. Good riddance.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
30. This.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019

I can't believe so many people think that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Schmidt, Painter, Wallace, all of them will return to the GOP if it ever gains any semblance of sanity again. And if it doesn't they will still all have plenty of negative things to say about the dem candidates & will likely never advocate for voting dem.

calimary

(81,304 posts)
116. I think they'll all wander back home. I don't know that a single soul has actually been saved.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 10:26 PM
Jan 2019

Nicolle Wallace maybe? Hmmm... I don't know. I won't be surprised.

ToxMarz

(2,169 posts)
35. He wants the same thing Roger Stone does
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:05 PM
Jan 2019

A horse to race. He just happened to oppose Trump so he was (foolishly) accepted as the "enemy of my enemy". No mistake, he IS NOT a friend

erronis

(15,294 posts)
39. He and Stone just wanted "a horse to race." Such an apt metaphor.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jan 2019

I think that is true of almost all operatives and most politicians. It's the race rather than the platform. It's the buck$ to be made and the fine wining/dining.

Too bad there aren't some significant penalties for losing - just like fining atty's for filing egregious suits.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
19. About damn time!
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jan 2019

MSNBC please get rid of Noah Rothman, Bill Kristol, John Podhoretz and all the other "I hate Trump more than I hate Democrats" assholes...

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
101. YES! Rubin, Jolly, Frum (gag) all love Republican ideas, are against the New Deal "entitlements,"
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 05:09 PM
Jan 2019

against taxes (most of all), against voting rights, against school lunches, Public School, want to privatize the public domain, want more money vs the common good, faintly bigoted (they are careful to hide that). They are REPUBLIANS, used to be John Birchers, are Heritage Foundation and Citizen United boosters, not to mention war and torturemongers. Every time I see one of them on MSNBC I boo and throw the dog at the tee vee (no, I don't throw the dog. But he is used to the yelling now).

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
2. Whoa.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:51 AM
Jan 2019

This surprises me. I’m glad but it still surprises me. Schmidt will be welcomed with open arms by Fux, I would think.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
6. I'm not so sure.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:55 AM
Jan 2019

He may have burned a bunch of GOP bridges

As well, he has a media conflict of interest helping Shultz get his campaign going - so if there is any relationship, it would be at arms length - Trump and the other GOP power brokers would object

Clash City Rocker

(3,396 posts)
128. Good, if he goes to Fox, he'll be selling his candidate to Trump voters
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:09 AM
Feb 2019

Let Sargeant Schultz take votes away from Trump, not from the Democrats.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
3. I would be upset with them if they didn't can him.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jan 2019

He's a spinner, his message was getting droned out by those with legal and actual political savvy so he jumped to the next seat with a louder bullhorn and enough cash to keep him happy.

Guess he needs to prove his "independent" cred to himself.



IADEMO2004

(5,555 posts)
8. You can't wear an analyst shoe on one foot and advocate shoe on the other??
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 11:56 AM
Jan 2019

Yesterday was all advocate. Fail

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
10. never get fooled by a former republican. I am totally unshocked.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jan 2019

Watch Nicole Wallace for her reversion - and remember Big Ed Schultz.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
48. i started reading his book
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

and quit. he bashed democrats right off the bat. said terrible and untrue things about Hillary. i'll still look at his tweets but he's a republican.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
98. Same here. People should not be surprised at all.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 04:44 PM
Jan 2019

He is a reasonably decent conservative (i.e., not a strong social conservative) by personality. He didn't leave the Republican Party because he had a personality transplant. He left because it became so extreme that it literally became an enemy and has been trying to destroy traditional conservatism as a force.

Now he sees the wheel turn, so h's going to try to elect what looks like another moderate conservative.

So get ready. He's going to let the Republicans drive voters to them from the right. At the same time, he'll join Republicans, Russians, and far left groups in trying to peel voters away from Democratic candidates by all pushing overlapping campaigns of lies and villifications.

What's become the same old.

lark

(23,105 posts)
13. Listened to him on the Nicole Wallace show yesterday.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jan 2019

He's in 100% complete denial of reality. Oh, Schultz will never be the spoiler, he'd drop out first. Yeah a founding member of the Billionaire Boys club, who's already attacking many Democrats, but never drumpf or Repugs, is going to get an amazing and unprecedented dose of humility and drop out of the race because he's not winning. What an absolute self-serving lie and how could he even state it on tv proves his unfitness. He is the ass that picked Palin and now he's standing behind another destroyer, Schultz.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
55. What happened to Schmidt's Arm?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2019, 05:12 AM - Edit history (1)

It was in a cast, but I was not paying attention. nicole waslaughing.

lark

(23,105 posts)
92. Don't know, I was distracted by Wallace's laugh as well.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:42 PM
Jan 2019

Do know he was working hard spreading his BS that no one, other than repugs, would even start to consider as truth.

lark

(23,105 posts)
99. That is 100% opposite from what I saw yesterday.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 04:48 PM
Jan 2019

She was really coming down hard on Schmidt for supporting him and totally, absolutely, did not buy the BS that he would refuse to be a spoiler. I always believe the evidence of my eyes over what "some" of the media says.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
111. That's how I saw it too, not only in her words which
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 07:25 PM
Jan 2019

support this, but her near glare at him while listening to his responses.

They're good friends, I get and understand that, but she's not with him on this.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
121. Thank you
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 05:15 AM
Feb 2019

I found that report hard to believe. I wish I had listened closer.

Have yet to find reports about Schmidt being fired, too.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
18. Bad move by Schmidt. Tossing away his successful career as an MSNBC guest pundit
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jan 2019

to advise a RW candidate whose campaign for POTUS lasted less than a week.

Schmidt isn’t looking so smart today.

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
43. I would think for many of the pundits/analysts on msnbc, cnn, fox, it's a side gig.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jan 2019

They're only called in when the topic falls into their area of experience or expertise. Just like now we have a lot of former CIA/FBI/Intelligence/Security analysts on because of the whole Mueller investigation. I'm sure they're under contact and are paid very well, but would think many have other jobs.

But you're right, once someone is attached to a candidate/potential candidate, they no longer serve as a analyst, although may be called on to be interviewed in relation to that candidate.

Polly Hennessey

(6,799 posts)
21. Watch all of them:
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jan 2019

Steve Schmidt (reverted back to the dark side); Nicolle Wallace; Rick Wilson; Stephanie Ruhle; Jennifer Rubin. The others will revert, eventually. I really like Jennifer- so smart and an excellent writer. I still remember her scathing columns during the Obama administration.

Taraman

(373 posts)
24. I'm sure Steve Schmidt has his rationalization...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:49 PM
Jan 2019

He identifies himself as a political consultant. He was offered big dough for that job. He rationalized that Schultz roughly agreed with him philosophically in that weird mix of cultural liberalism but government conservatism. I see it.

But those two ideas are water and oil. It doesn't work. AOC, Warren, Harris, Sanders and others are pointing out that it doesn't work. The decline of the middle class in America points out that it doesn't work. However, many "independents" in America hold to these defunct ideas.

But I'll miss Schmidt's speechifying.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. Good point. One of his big ideas was always how both sides didn't get along. McCain
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:18 PM
Jan 2019

too. (i.e. regular order, collaboration). So, makes sense that on the surface, Schultz looked good to him.

The fatal error that Schultz is making (aside from not realizing Trump re-election is too much to risk) is is his understanding of "Independents." It's a flawed idea to think they are truly independent and pick one side one time and one side the next time. There may be a handful like that but most just say "independent" just because it sounds cool and "no one owns me ! " Yet, they vote more one way than another.
Schultz acts like its 42% of the voters that are 100% open and against both parties. #flawedthinking.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
41. He's right-wing. Nope he just took the money. Which way is the wind blowing
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:26 PM
Jan 2019

Never trust a republican hack.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
26. I said a while ago that MSNBC will regret hiring never Trumpers
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jan 2019

The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
129. The desired result was accomplished..
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 09:14 AM
Feb 2019

a bunch of unwitting "leftists" were fed rightwing doctrine while thinking... ooooh, he really doesn't like trump - yipee!!

This guy thought Sarah Palin was qualified & capable of being this countries VP, a heartbeat away (a guy that died recently), the stress of the presidency might have sped up that demise - let that sink in....

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
27. With all due respect, this is being reported by Raw Story, which glommed off a story in...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:53 PM
Jan 2019

the Washington Free Beacon, a right-wing POS rag.

I just looked, and though I may be wrong, at the moment I'm not seeing this reported anywhere else.

Raw Story is a rip-off and click bait "source".

Anyone seeing this anywhere else, to confirm?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
28. He's an articulate idealist. He is a true patriot. And he's so wrong on this.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:54 PM
Jan 2019

So sad. I have real admiration for his ideals.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
29. Just means he isn't on their payroll, he can now be classified as a spokesman
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jan 2019

Will put him in the same category as KA Conway during the campaign.

Mr. Coffee probably gave him a nice contract w/retainer. Once that candidacy folds, he'll jump to another or go back to one of the networks.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
31. I really liked his righteous rants against Idiot.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:57 PM
Jan 2019

But supporting Schultz is a bridge too far. MSNBC did the correct thing.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
32. Schmidt knows trump will be gone by 2020 and...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 12:59 PM
Jan 2019

his core beliefs are conservative republican beliefs no matter how much he can't stand trump. His attacks on trump are irrelevant to what he wants to accomplish and that is continued republican control of the agenda.
Not to mention conservative politics are his bread and butter. Everyone knows exactly what his core values are with his promoting Sarah Palin. He is the enemy and probably has had quite a few good laughs over progressives warming up to him.

Traildogbob

(8,748 posts)
52. Stephanie Miller Show
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jan 2019

The best thing on Steph this AM, besides Chris coming back full time, was the last caller talking about Hucklebutt saying GOD sent trump. "She" is fishing for evilgelicals to stay because they are "Dropping faster than Lindsay Graham at a truck stop". I spewed some fresh ground organic Ethiopian light roast coffee. Was worth the loss for that laugh. We all may just survive this hell because of Stephanie Mueller, uh, I mean Miller.

Traildogbob

(8,748 posts)
93. Kevin is a sweetheart, horn dog, but sweetheart
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jan 2019

Sue in Rockville and so many very bright resisters. And best, she shuts down the Idiocracy platoon. Road Flare Mary and especially freakin Billy from Texas.

True Blue American

(17,985 posts)
57. Should have listened closer.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jan 2019

Steve is her friend, too.

But then again Nicole worked for GW Bush. She iis not a Democrat .

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
36. NEVER trust a pubican
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

Those words to live by really worry me more than ever now because Mueller is a pubican too.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
56. Exactly.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jan 2019

No news organization should employ anyone who is on the payroll of a political campaign.

Third does not mean he has to be banned from appearing on the network, just identify him as a campaign consultant for Schultz.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
46. It's embarrassing to the people on here who continue to push these right-wing extremist
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:31 PM
Jan 2019

It's amnesia with some on here. It's like people on here completely forgot what these people did.

Maybe some on here are so desperate that they will clutch to anything. That's a major flaw in some democrats as well as others. Example any republican being elected in the last eight, ten, twenty years etc.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
66. The original source for this story is the right-wing POS Washington Free Beacon. I'm asking
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:17 PM
Jan 2019

if you found any other (reputable) source for this story on which to base your comment that it is "good" that MSNBC fired Schmidt.

I have not been able to find a single corroboration of this story anywhere. I did, however, track it back from parasite Raw Story to Washington Free Beacon, which is not a reputable source and should not be treated as such.

I have posted a couple of times now for another source but it seems like my mic is not working...tap, tap.

lilactime

(657 posts)
67. I took the post at face value. I didn't notice where it was from. And I don't
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jan 2019

appreciate being singled out and scolded for replying to it. Good day.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
68. Hey, I was just asking because I've asked the OP, to no avail. I was not singling you out. Geez!
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jan 2019

Good day!

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
131. My problem is that there is no corroboration for this story and this thread is making DU look...
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 11:04 AM
Feb 2019

foolish. When people ignore the source of a story and then jump on with chart-topping recs and enthusiastic replies, it opens us up for a flood of fake stories to be posted so that any credibility this forum has in the realm of Democratic politics can be shattered as viewed by the rest of the world. It makes it look like we will believe anything. It makes us look exactly like right-wingers looked on facebook for believing all those Russian fake news stories posted to that platform during the 2016 campaign.

Targeting posters? For trying to get them to confirm a story? Targeting? Don't be hysterical. Targeting posters, like you just did to me?

What is my problem? Not confirming a story from a right-wing piece of shit "source"! That what's wrong with me!

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
79. As of 2:00 pm EST, Washington Free Beacon is still the only source per Google news search.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:02 PM
Jan 2019

I searched on the broadest terms -- Steve Schmidt MSNBC and limited the search to News to avoid old pieces and links to what he's said on MSNBC before yesterday. Nothing on his leaving other than the Free Beacon piece. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened but it doesn't mean it has either.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
84. Well, thank you for at least doing the background work to find out if this story is true. I agree
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:10 PM
Jan 2019

with your every word, including that it doesn't mean it didn't happen. But look at the replies (and recs) to this story here at DU. I"ve been reading for awhile and one of the things DU takes pride in is not giving in to the likes of parasite Raw Story nor to cheer a piece from Washington Free Beacon, or any other POS propaganda/lie outlet.

How does that look to those looking in and seeing such fervor for an, as yet, unsubstantiated story?

If I were a betting man, I'd bet this probably isn't true because there's no corroboration, as of yet. I'd also bet that, if not true, Schmidt will, perhaps, be back on Wallace's show today to continue defending his decision to throw a wrench into the jet turbine of what is otherwise set to be a Democratic trounce the likes of which we have never seen in 2020.

It's important that we don't allow ourselves to let our guard down and think we can't be bamboozled by tRump/russian dirty tricks just as our, ahem...counterparts...were in 2016.

isitreal

(25 posts)
53. start voting now by not spending money at starbucks
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 01:52 PM
Jan 2019

This man knows money and the power of it. He is forgetting that Business and politics should not mix. Now is the time to give him an education and stop spending money at Starbucks. As soon as he sees a negative to his bottom line he will be reconsidering if this is a wise move for him.

Vote now stop giving starbucks your money.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
82. He's the Former CEO of Starbucks ... doesn't work there anymore.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:08 PM
Jan 2019

Which is not to say his fortunes aren't still tied to how Starbucks does, but the guy is a legit Billionaire (unlike IQ45), not going to Starbucks isn't going to stop the guy from running if that's what he wants to do ...

shanti

(21,675 posts)
61. Schmidt was on Maher a few times
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jan 2019

I'd never heard of him before until then. I believe he said he was a former Repuke, but he hates Chump passionately, so I was warming up. I didn't know about his role with Palin. His judgment is suspect now.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
63. And let's not forget who he got on the US Supreme Court.......................he was responsible
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:10 PM
Jan 2019

for Alito and Roberts being on that court...................and then for over two years he was being spoken as seeing the light.............................

airmid

(500 posts)
64. While it is always great fun watching him tear Trump apart,
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jan 2019

he's a Repiblican through and through. I will never trust any of them that remain in the GOP.

BamaRefugee

(3,483 posts)
65. WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING...never trusted him one iota. Good riddance.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jan 2019

He was part of making MSNBC more like msRNCnbc.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
86. I"m still looking and, still, nothing except this story that originated with a right-wing POS
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jan 2019

propaganda rag.

And just look at the reaction to this unsubstantiated story here in this thread! It's almost as if there is no need to vet the story because Raw Story, which steals everything they do, says it's so! Didn't we go through this game in 2016?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
72. Why is there no discussion or debate about if he would actually help Republicans win...or Democrats?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:46 PM
Jan 2019

That it is just assumed it would be Democrats that would be most hurt. I understand that he may siphon off votes from some Democrat voters, especially in the south. But why is no one raising the possibility that he'd also take a lot of votes from all those Republicans that couldn't admit they voted for Trump. That might argue in public defending The Wall, or separating families, or a Muslim ban, or any of Trump's agenda....but they don't like the man himself privately. They don't see him as a good leader, as representing their 'family values' community. And are just waiting for any kind of other choice that isn't the GD Democrats.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
90. Well, that is a different scenario of course
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jan 2019

I am talking about if he ran as a third party, with Trump as the Republican candidate.

I've said before that Democrats could be in trouble if Trump leaves by whatever means, and a more centrist seeming Republican candidate like Mitt ran. (and maybe that would apply to Schultz) Trump has successfully pushed the limits of the radical right, embracing Nazis, total climate change denial, insulting allies and embarrassing himself internationally, and just his juvenile tweeting and school yard insults. And so ANY candidate that even seems remotely sane, will give Republican voters a new energy. Former Trumpists will still come out, and they'd have a lot of traditional Republican voters coming back, where they may not if Trump was up for a second term.

I think Democrats have focused too much on Trump, the man, rather than Republican, the party. The party he willingly ran under. He is rarely painted as a "Republican". He is still seen as some kind of independent maverick that works closely with Republicans. And Democrats are falling for that trap. It shouldn't be always "the Trump administration" but "the Republican administration". More focus and criticism of what McConnell is doing and less what Trump is doing. I know its hard to do that, especially for news networks, but yes, I fear, just as they did with Nixon, and even with W Bush, Trump will be quickly dismissed and ignored by Republicans leadership if he goes down in flames, and they will pivot and pretend that some new candidate, with the trappings of moderation, is their true face.......honest.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
75. Steve Schmidt did an awesome job on MSNBC...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jan 2019

right up until the time he drank too much Centrist Flavor-Aide. It is a shame. I really enjoyed his rants. Now, he's just another clueless Conservative. Bye Felecia...I mean..bye Steve!

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
76. Bad and ...good?
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:53 PM
Jan 2019

No one attacks Trump as well as Steve Schmidt. He is so good and funny--it's even better than Trevor Noah or Samantha Bee. We really need some over-the-top commentary on the Trump nonsense.

Still, I was disappointed to see his comments supporting Starbuck's Schultz. We shouldn't be surprised because Schmidt is a conservative. I hope MSNBC can mend fences and just bring him in to talk about Trump.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
78. Steve Schmidt
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:01 PM
Jan 2019

I always kind of liked him, his epic rants about trump. Personally, I think
they should have just waited awhile, maybe not had him on very much. This whole Howard Schultz thing could end in a couple of months, we don't know. Ir just say something like, we cannot have you on while you are running his
campaign, but we'll stay in touch. Something like that.

OnDoutside

(19,960 posts)
91. As a contributor to MSNBC, he must have been on decent money. He must be earning some ransom to
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jan 2019

get on board with Schultz.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
102. We have to remember that people like Schmidt
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 05:37 PM
Jan 2019

(perhaps also: Nicole Wallace, Richard Painter, Rick Wilson, etc) have only been on "loan" to the Democrats because of their hatred of Trump. It was fun while it lasted but they are Republicans - which is their right but they haven't changed their political ideology.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
115. Whoa. I didn't see that coming.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 09:31 PM
Jan 2019

They probably have a rule that you can't work there at the same time you are working in politics or for a politician. Like they have that rule that you can't donate to a political party.

DFW

(54,403 posts)
119. Eleanor rarely gets it wrong.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 01:08 AM
Feb 2019

And she didn't get it wrong this time.

Her late husband was a good friend of my dad's, and I've known her for about 20 years. Some don't like her cautious stance on some issues, but she is dead on here.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
122. Steve Schmidt will end up helping to re-elect Donald Trump.
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 06:44 AM
Feb 2019

How can he not predict this outcome in a three way race.

RandiFan1290

(6,237 posts)
123. DU's favorite republicon?
Fri Feb 1, 2019, 06:54 AM
Feb 2019

I wonder if DU would support Schultz if Bernie wins the Democratic nomination? Like they did in the Florida Senate race in 2010. Siding with the 3rd party candidate over the Democratic nominee and helping Marco Rubio win the seat.

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