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Howard Schultz doesn't have a chance (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2019 OP
The same was said of perot and Trump fescuerescue Jan 2019 #1
Ross Perot ran as an independent and got ZERO Electoral College votes. Cattledog Jan 2019 #3
Third party candidates are almost always spoilers Gothmog Jan 2019 #2
No "Independent" has ever become President except George Washington. Cattledog Jan 2019 #4
Doubt he will even be a spoiler Loki Liesmith Jan 2019 #5
I can't see him running Cosmocat Jan 2019 #16
Neither did Trump. Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #6
Very different SHRED Jan 2019 #8
Shultz may well not ultimately run as an independent, either. N/t Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #10
Good. I hope so. SHRED Jan 2019 #11
That's precisely the thinking that got us Trump. Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #13
I am saying... SHRED Jan 2019 #14
I agree with you as to the hope he doesn't run as an independent - Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #15
Please Cosmocat Jan 2019 #17
I understand your need to venti. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #7
Clever 😂 SHRED Jan 2019 #9
Everything that has come out of his mouth is right wing bullshit! tenderfoot Jan 2019 #12

Cattledog

(5,915 posts)
3. Ross Perot ran as an independent and got ZERO Electoral College votes.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jan 2019

Trump ran as a Republican and won because he got 306 Electoral College votes.

No Independent can win. Even Trump knew this, that's why he ran as a Republican.

Cattledog

(5,915 posts)
4. No "Independent" has ever become President except George Washington.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:12 PM
Jan 2019

And this Billionaire asshole is no George Washington.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
16. I can't see him running
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 04:41 PM
Jan 2019

he is already walking back his timeline.

We haven't seen many people throwing their hats into the POTUS ring who have been as harshly panned as he has been when they have floated the idea.

Hard to see how he will want to spent a year and a half taking the shit he is going to take, and blowing good coin to take it.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
6. Neither did Trump.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 02:20 PM
Jan 2019

And treating his candidacy as if it was a joke contributed significantly to where we are right now.

Please don't make (encourage others to make) that mistake again.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
13. That's precisely the thinking that got us Trump.
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:54 PM
Jan 2019

Everyone treated him as a joke, who could not possibly win.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
14. I am saying...
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jan 2019

...I hope he doesn't run as an Independent.

I'll still be against him but he won't be splitting votes.

Ms. Toad

(34,074 posts)
15. I agree with you as to the hope he doesn't run as an independent -
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 04:35 PM
Jan 2019

as long as that means he's not running at all.

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
17. Please
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 04:49 PM
Jan 2019

I told people 45 was no joke the moment he came down the escalator, that he was a real threat to win the R nomination, and I called it over when he put a sleeper hold on it a year out from the actual election.

But, the reason he was a threat was that he was living embodiment of what "conservatism" devolved into.

I am a racist, bigoted, hateful, immoral scumbag, here me roar!

After decades of mealy mouthed politicians winking at it all, the pods tripped over themselves to vote for the real deal.

This guy has no appeal anywhere.

Policy wise he is more libertarian than anything else.

That is the 3% electoral market he appeals to policy wise. And, he has no policy he is a few days into merely floating the idea and is already acting like a churlish douche.

tenderfoot

(8,437 posts)
12. Everything that has come out of his mouth is right wing bullshit!
Thu Jan 31, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jan 2019

And that he's gotten free air time.

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