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True Dough

(17,314 posts)
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:35 AM Feb 2019

Michael Smerconish just suggested that the Mueller investigation

might end up bringing down a bunch of Trump associates but not find any guilt on the part of Trump himself.

Is there anyone else who believes that's even a remote possibility? How could all of this illegal activity have gone on around Trump without his direct involvement, especially someone of his character?

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Michael Smerconish just suggested that the Mueller investigation (Original Post) True Dough Feb 2019 OP
I don't really care for Michael Smerconish. dewsgirl Feb 2019 #1
I find it very hard to believe tRump had absolutely no idea what was going on. If he RKP5637 Feb 2019 #2
How many times? Cracklin Charlie Feb 2019 #3
I am very skeptical And think it might be another fitzmas that wasn't. . CentralMass Feb 2019 #4
Fitzmas was only one person NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #7
His every breath and twitch since the campaign suggests a heavily compromised man Mr. Ected Feb 2019 #5
Never listen to Smerconish manor321 Feb 2019 #6
There's a 99% chance this is true. Oneironaut Feb 2019 #8
Do you think "fall guy toadies" True Dough Feb 2019 #16
Yup. Trump is not below hosing his own kids, imo. Oneironaut Feb 2019 #23
Nobody knows what Mueller knows. shockey80 Feb 2019 #9
I'm getting that feeling more and more every day... PeeJ52 Feb 2019 #10
bullshit. he's 1000% hands on all the time. spanone Feb 2019 #11
I think it's impossible that Trump wasn't a part of it. I also think that it won't get to him. Autumn Feb 2019 #12
So will Don Jr or Ivanka greymattermom Feb 2019 #13
it's more than a remote possibility KayF Feb 2019 #14
Sounds like MS has bought into tRump's bs that everyone in the world is a liar stopbush Feb 2019 #15
MS probably believes the same as us, but proving it is a different issue. OnDoutside Feb 2019 #20
Denial is not just a river in Egypt. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #17
trump is such a dumbass and ditz lillypaddle Feb 2019 #18
Unless there is audio/video of Trump, I think Smerconish may be proven to be correct. The other OnDoutside Feb 2019 #19
Speculation and theories for the sake of filling an hour Takket Feb 2019 #21
Unfortunately I think this is a strong possibility Arazi Feb 2019 #22

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. I find it very hard to believe tRump had absolutely no idea what was going on. If he
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:39 AM
Feb 2019

had no knowledge, that demonstrates how out of touch with reality he is, if he had no idea what people surrounding him were doing.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
3. How many times?
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:40 AM
Feb 2019

How many times did Assface stand on a stage and beg Russia for help with his election?

Not a chance he skates.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. Fitzmas was only one person
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:53 AM
Feb 2019

brought down in Scooter Libby.

We've already seen a bunch of Trump associates and lackeys indicted or pleading guilty.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. His every breath and twitch since the campaign suggests a heavily compromised man
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:46 AM
Feb 2019

His deflections, rants and demeanor have consistently been that of a guilty man. You can't explain away this behavior. He has something to hide, a lot of something, and it's not his family he's trying to protect. He's been a mobster for 30 years or more. He's not that smart and decades of entitlement have shrouded him from his own fallibility.

I'm calling bullshit.

Oneironaut

(5,519 posts)
8. There's a 99% chance this is true.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:57 AM
Feb 2019

Unless if Trump was a complete idiot, he will have plausible deniability. Proving he did anything will be very hard.

Remember - Trump worked in the business world. He’s no stranger to creating fall-guy toadies.

It doesn’t mean Trump didn’t do anything. It’s pretty obvious he did. You need to prove it, though - that’s the hard part.

Oneironaut

(5,519 posts)
23. Yup. Trump is not below hosing his own kids, imo.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

The only person in Trump world is Trump. All others are pawns.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
9. Nobody knows what Mueller knows.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:00 AM
Feb 2019

Believe your own eyes and ears. We have all watched Trump commit crime after crime. His twitter account is a confession. Trump is guilty period.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
10. I'm getting that feeling more and more every day...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:01 AM
Feb 2019

It feels like the MSM is even directing us that way. I can't put my finger on it, but the underpinnings are subtle. They will get stronger as time goes on. I think it is just starting with this Don Jr. phone trail. We'll see...

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
15. Sounds like MS has bought into tRump's bs that everyone in the world is a liar
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:23 AM
Feb 2019

when it comes to what they say about tRump.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
17. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:19 PM
Feb 2019

And, Smircornish has a pretty long track record of being wrong, on top of being in denial.

OnDoutside

(19,965 posts)
19. Unless there is audio/video of Trump, I think Smerconish may be proven to be correct. The other
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:22 PM
Feb 2019

possibility is that there are enough others who will testify to save themselves, that Trump directed them.

Takket

(21,607 posts)
21. Speculation and theories for the sake of filling an hour
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:25 PM
Feb 2019

Of cable news time are basically meaningless.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
22. Unfortunately I think this is a strong possibility
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:26 PM
Feb 2019

A lot will depend on if Mueller has managed to get Trump's mob money laundering crimes nailed down. If he can show the #TrumpCrimeFamily was conspiring with Putin and/or his mob oligarchs, game over.

I do think Trump is directly involved in those deals so imo, if Mueller can trace the $$ trail then he'll bring Trump down too

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