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Trump D-. Abrams B. Sanders A. (Original Post) Ron Green Feb 2019 OP
ok thanks LuvLoogie Feb 2019 #1
... SidDithers Feb 2019 #2
According to---? nt Atticus Feb 2019 #3
Ron Burgundy. obnoxiousdrunk Feb 2019 #13
Snort grantcart Feb 2019 #21
LOL. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #4
kinda boring i thought. trueblue2007 Feb 2019 #22
Are there three major parties now? I guess I missed that n/t blitzen Feb 2019 #5
If there are then Bernie MontanaMama Feb 2019 #52
Good grief. nolabear Feb 2019 #6
Bernie's response was excellent !!! SamKnause Feb 2019 #7
More like tRump D-, Abrams A-, Sanders C- n/t Julian Englis Feb 2019 #8
Did you hear them all? Please share your thoughts. Ron Green Feb 2019 #16
serious, or just irritated at the original score? nt JCanete Feb 2019 #20
Rrrrrrrrriiiiiiight.... MrGrieves Feb 2019 #9
Abrams was a hell of a lot better than that. Hoyt Feb 2019 #10
hmm , thread trashed. TeamPooka Feb 2019 #11
Yup ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #23
Bernie was the only one to RESPOND to Trump's Ron Green Feb 2019 #12
That's what she's supposed to do. It's not supposed to be an all out OliverQ Feb 2019 #25
Garbage thread vercetti2021 Feb 2019 #14
I watched most FoxNewsSucks Feb 2019 #15
Haha Sugarcoated Feb 2019 #30
If Sanders gives a speech when nobody is watching, does it make a sound? scheming daemons Feb 2019 #17
I don't know, but the fact taht you didn't hear it certainly invalidates your opinion on his speech. JCanete Feb 2019 #19
Exactly.. lost his cred rating Stacy c+ Cha Feb 2019 #28
I'm giving this thread a solid D, just slightly above the Rump ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #33
I'm leaning Cha Feb 2019 #36
Good question Gothmog Feb 2019 #48
I need to watch Abrams speech again, It seemed to serve and I think she nailed a JCanete Feb 2019 #18
Abrams response was excellent. No clue what you're talking about. OliverQ Feb 2019 #24
Sanders an A? DemKittyNC Feb 2019 #26
+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #27
I'm assuming you didn't listen to his response...and yet you took issue with the rating? That is JCanete Feb 2019 #32
You assumed wrong DemKittyNC Feb 2019 #35
so what about it was mansplaining? Could you walk me through how simply by being a man speaking JCanete Feb 2019 #37
You obviously did not actually listen ... mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #38
How many people bothered to listen or watch this speech Gothmog Feb 2019 #53
I think Sanders and Abrams are both great. David__77 Feb 2019 #29
Yeah, but I'd rate them F, A, A+. Didn't watch Kamala Harris sorry. aidbo Feb 2019 #31
Trump D- gopiscrap Feb 2019 #34
I'd agree with your edited grades ... mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #39
My grades quickesst Feb 2019 #40
Col. Sanders? Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #41
Trump - F, Abrams - A, Sanders - I MyNameGoesHere Feb 2019 #42
nice jcgoldie Feb 2019 #49
Edit: ... SidDithers Feb 2019 #43
I didn't understand Sanders' comments. betsuni Feb 2019 #44
Isn't that very much the state of the Union at this time? Ron Green Feb 2019 #51
I liked all 3 responses by Harris, Abrams and Sanders Arazi Feb 2019 #45
bwahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha n/t Apollyonus Feb 2019 #46
OKAY THEN DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #47
According to who, the Jackpine Radicals? Tarc Feb 2019 #50

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
16. Did you hear them all? Please share your thoughts.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:06 AM
Feb 2019

I thought Sanders’ stark contrast of Trump and the RW’s agenda with what Americans actually want was excellent.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
12. Bernie was the only one to RESPOND to Trump's
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:55 AM
Feb 2019

“points” with clear refutations. His speech was based in the most urgent issues facing this nation and planet. Stacey Abrams, while very capable and positive, did not adress much of the true state of the nation, in my view.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
25. That's what she's supposed to do. It's not supposed to be an all out
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:20 AM
Feb 2019

insult trump every chance you get. Her speech was meant to set an optimistic tone of what America really is about, not what Trump and Republicans want it to be.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
15. I watched most
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:05 AM
Feb 2019

I couldn't sit through all of the pussygrabber. Wouldn't have watched any, but Pelosi's expression and shuffling of paperwork did keep me from changing the channel for a while. Until MF45 stated that bullshit about Democrats cheering the ripping of babies crap. Changed the channel immediately. Fuck him, and fuck the rightwing morons who buy into that bullshit.

Abrams deserves an A+++. She's fucking great. That was the best rebuttal ever, PERIOD. Rarely does reading a speech seem like such natural conversation. I hope she gets a lot more airtime in the future, and it's a damn shame that republicons got away with stealing the governorship from her.

I have always been a great supporter of Bernie, and thought the content of his address to be right on target. Such as the point that MF45 and the right keep harping about MS13 while never EVER mentioning the Vegas shooter who murdered so many and wounded over 800. But I gotta say, Bernie's delivery had too many "uh"s, which don't make for the best delivery. He gets an A-

MF45 Pussygrabber gets an F-------------

Pelosi also should receive an A for sitting there with her testicle necklace, shuffling her papers, and being able to restrain herself while simultaneously being so close to Mother's husband and to tRump.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
17. If Sanders gives a speech when nobody is watching, does it make a sound?
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:10 AM
Feb 2019

You giving Abrams a C+ is laughable. And it invalidates your opinion on anything else.
 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
18. I need to watch Abrams speech again, It seemed to serve and I think she nailed a
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:10 AM
Feb 2019

couple important things.

I agree about what Sanders brought though. He went straight down the list of so much of the hypocrisy, lies and omissions that Trump has engaged in in that SOTU and his Presidency, and he delivered it with the proper righteous indignation. Also lets be fair, Abrams had 10 minutes. Sanders rebuttal is much longer. That's the advantage of offering an additional rebuttal on a different platform.
 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
32. I'm assuming you didn't listen to his response...and yet you took issue with the rating? That is
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:46 AM
Feb 2019

priceless. A + + + + + + + + +

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
35. You assumed wrong
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 01:59 AM
Feb 2019

I did listen to his response. I didn’t need the SOTU mansplained to me but he obliged to none the less. Thanks Bernie! As a simple, silly woman - I needed that.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
37. so what about it was mansplaining? Could you walk me through how simply by being a man speaking
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 02:12 AM
Feb 2019

to Trump's policies and rhetoric is mansplaining?

I am impressed, that as tired as you are of Sanders and his "mansplaining" by talking to national issues, not a man's take on women's issues, nor to women about issues, nor for a woman on her behalf, etc. (yet its still mansplaining somehow) that you still decided to listen to his whole speech. Thank you for your sacrifice. I look forward to your slightly more detailed critique.

Gothmog

(145,619 posts)
53. How many people bothered to listen or watch this speech
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 03:59 PM
Feb 2019

in 2018 I saw that only 2 million watched and I thought that was high even though it was less than 1% of the US population

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
39. I'd agree with your edited grades ...
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 03:06 AM
Feb 2019

I give Bernie an extra full mark because his speech was a RESPONSE, whereas Abrams was 'The Democratic SOTU'. It was not truly a response. Hers was 100% pre-written, and possibly pre-recorded.

Whereas Bernie's was live ... although I'm sure a fair bit was pre-written just because you KNEW ... Trump wouldn't mention ... 95% of what Bernie said he wouldn't mention, which was a big part of his address. But there were also many elements of what Trump DID mention, which means it wasn't all pre-done. HIs team basically did a phenomenal job of having his address and rebuttal points ready.

I enjoyed both, but loved Bernie's ... a fair bit more. No bash on Abrams intended, she also did great. Bernie's crew had quite a bit more time to pull it together as well. When you go RIGHT after like Stacey did, it's a different deal.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
42. Trump - F, Abrams - A, Sanders - I
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 08:08 AM
Feb 2019

I rewatched Sanders and cannot give even a D. He just isn't at a D, my I grade stands.

betsuni

(25,644 posts)
44. I didn't understand Sanders' comments.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 08:30 AM
Feb 2019

He listed progressive things the majority of Americans want, then said Congress isn't doing what the American people want because of moneyed interests, Wall Street, Big drug companies, corporations, fossil fuel industries, the billionaire class who are paid off.

"They have the money, we have the people." "They" are Republicans.

Ron Green

(9,823 posts)
51. Isn't that very much the state of the Union at this time?
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:24 AM
Feb 2019

The people’s wishes and needs are going unmet, and there are specific reasons for this.

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