Seth Abramson - CBS interview w/Richard Burr (R) should decimate any lingering doubt about Mueller

[Roland99]

Link to tweet

https://threader.app/thread/1093555871651635205

THREAD) CBS just spoke to the REPUBLICAN chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee—now entering its third year of investigating Trump-Russia ties—and what Richard Burr has to tell America should decimate any lingering skepticism about Mueller. I hope you'll read on and retweet.

1/ Here's the link to the CBS interview. Skeptics reading this thread—who will be stunned by what they read—should understand that the interviewee, Republican Senator Richard Burr of North Carolina, was on TRUMP'S NATIONAL SECURITY TEAM as of October 2016. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-burr-on-senate-intelligence-committees-russia-investigation-2-years-on/ …

2/ CBS notes that the Senate Intel Committee is entering its third year of a bipartisan Russia probe *despite* intense pressure—particularly from Burr's fellow Republicans—to wrap up its work. That alone is telling: that the Senate majority on the Committee is resisting stopping.

3/ QUOTE #1: "[Burr] acknowledges now that the investigation is broader, and perhaps more consequential, than it has long been thought to be." So America doesn't realize how much troubling material the Senate has found—or how far-flung and important to our future the material is.

4/ QUOTE #2: "What [has]...extended the life of the [Senate] investigation...is a better understanding of...how coordinated and organized the effort was." So it was the "coordination" and "organization" of what Russia did—uh, coordinating with *whom*?—that has shocked the Senate.

5/ And "shock" isn't too strong a word, as Burr says "none of us"—meaning *even the Democrats on the Senate Intel Committee who hate Trump the most*—"ever anticipated that this [investigation] would be two years." Burr made this comment to CBS, CBS says, "solemnly." That's eerie.

6/ QUOTE #3 (CBS): "The [probe] isn't compiling the story of one pivotal election, but of something larger, more complicated and—from a counterintelligence perspective—more nefarious. The final report may be so highly classified that a meaningful portion may not be made public."

7/ As that CBS summary of what Burr said attests, most Americans—but not people who read this feed, I'm happy to say—think Mueller is only discovering info about what happened in "one election." Burr, Trump-Russia analysts, and readers of feeds like this know it's *beyond* that.

8/ According to CBS, per Burr the "story" Trump-Russia investigators are seeing is "larger, more complicated, and more nefarious" than the story of the 2016 election. On this feed, the shorthand we use to describe what the Republican Burr is telling CBS/us is "the grand bargain."

[triron]

1. Seth has been onto this for awhile.

[Roland99]

5. Have you read Proof of Collusion? He's working on a follow up book now

[exboyfil]

2. So highly classified that a meaningful portion may not be made public.

It is incompatible with our Representative form of government. How can we make informed decisions about our leadership?

Maybe we can get a maverick on the Intel committee at some point who feels they have nothing to lose by revealing everything.

[Zorro]

12. The evidence might have been collected using classified sources and technologies

Those methods should not be compromised.

[CabalPowered]

14. And are probably ongoing

[DonViejo]

3. Burr confirms, "we don't know what we don't know;" Warner has been hinting/suggesting

it for months.

[genxlib]

4. Interesting

There is one line there that scares me.

"The final report may be so highly classified that a meaningful portion may not be made public"

That worries me because it will leave the insinuation of seriousness without the actual details. I am so hoping that we get enough details to either convince Trump supporters or shame them into silence as an insignificant minority. If we end up with a bunch of details classified, we will never hear the end of how the deep state railroaded Trump. It will be a continuation of the slow-rolling cold civil war we have brewing.

I have a personal conspiracy theory that something like this was used to Republican advantage in Benghazi. It just sounds to me like the CIA was up to something there and I think the real story was too classified to share. So the Republicans were free to spin it how they wanted it to appear while knowing that Hillary et al were unable to really respond with the facts

[Roland99]

8. And what was that other one. Kenya?

[D_Master81]

23. I heard it suggested

That the ambassador that was killed in Benghazi was actually helping to get weapons to resistance groups and that they were killed when the opposition found out. Hence why we couldn’t go in and save them cause we were already working against the Libyan government.

[OhioBlue]

36. I have the same thoughts about Benghazi

I think it was a CIA fubar and agree with you that Obama administration officials couldn't tell the real story because it was classified. Republicans knew that and used it against them.

[Fuzzpope]

6. Good.

If Burr is now taking all this seriously, that's a critical beach head established towards prying loose other Republican congress members from the Trump machina.

I doubt any of the collaborators, tiny cogs in the agenda, even big ones, fully realized, or possibly even believed the full extent of Russian involvement as well as lateral efforts by other international bad actors.

It's really no surprise they are so silent.

Ywt this thing cannot be beaten back and broken without Republicans.

That ten year investigation period is pretty daunting, though.

We don't have two years, much less a full decade.

[smb]

9. The Rats Deserting The Sinking SS Trump nt

[Scurrilous]

7. K&R

[PeeJ52]

10. So will they just walk McConnell, Graham, and all the other compromised reps all at once one day?

or will they just hope they will be voted out of office? This national security secrecy BS has got to stop! We know our government is crooked. Let us know how crooked so we can fix it. Quit hiding it from us.

[BigmanPigman]

11. I think it has to do with all that stuff in the Seychelles,

The UAE, the Saudis, etc and basically all the richest world leaders and countries and their finances and how they are connected to one another.

[ToxMarz]

18. Yep, and dangling their wealth in front of the still remotely democratic nations greedy politicians

(who are the only ones who can stand in their way) saying come join us, you can be the oligarchs there, we'll be them here.

Unfortunately even if that happens, then they will just start going after each other till only one is left (or no one...BOOM!)

[rusty fender]

13. Burr issued a statement that claims there

is no proof that Trump colluded wth Russia to win the election. So, Trump’s campaign did the colluding but Trump himself is innocent

[Eyeball_Kid]

19. That statement probably could not be made today.

Burr made that statement very early in the investigation. The Committee gathered a lot of facts since then.

[rusty fender]

26. That statement was published today

He said that based on the Senate committee’s findings, he couldn’t conclude that Trump, nor that Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia.

Burr obviously doesn’t want to implicate Trump because he is a Repuke.

Same ol’, same ol’ Repuke bullshit

[Texin]

22. We know that the Russians were using catspaw techniques to entice Don Jr., Manafort,

etc. It is simply not credible that Jr. was operating rogue on this. If Jr. knew about them dangling juicy info about Clinton, you can damn well bet that Sr. knew about it too, and was probably on speaker with the meeting participants. To argue against his knowledge and approval is simply not credible.

[rusty fender]

28. I agree with you

Burr won’t go there because, as a Repuke, he must protect his own

[Hamlette]

15. I've not watched the interview, but could it just be Russian involvement in US not necessarily Trump

when he says it is broader and more consequential could it be that Russia has been involved with our elections from before 2016 but not that Trump and his gang were involved?

The reason I say that is I' still a little shocked about the June Trump tower meeting with Jr. That was quite late in the election cycle, if they'd been in this since 2015 or so, you'd think they would have had a channel to pass "dirt on Hillary" more easily.

[Caliman73]

27. I think you underestimate the incompetence.

There is a lot to be said about how stupid the president, his family, and the people he surrounds himself with are. Russia is pretty good at infiltrating and using dirty tricks on people. They have practice from the cold war. Two things are going on. Russia is trying to get preferential policies (I.E. eliminating sanctions, backing out of Syria, etc...) and they are also just trying to disrupt democracies aaround the world to secure other advantages. They saw Trump as an easy target, probably understand how stupid he is and tried to mitigate some of it, but he is just too stupid. They probably left it at sowing chaos after awhile.

[DirtEdonE]

16. But what's REALLY important

Is forcing ratfcked Democrats to resign, right? After all, what this country really needs is a permanent pubican majority. That way, every one of the traitors if off the hook. But hey, look at the bright side, the Democratic Party will have rid ourselves of any man who ever had an allegation made against him so there's that. We'll have such high moral standing by then a permanent pubican totalitarian state will be worth it all!

[Achilleaze]

17. America demands justice for republican traitors

Investigate, indict, try, convict, and then LOCK THEM UP

[BlueJac]

20. Burr seems to cover his ass...

he knows Trump is watching every word he speaks. My fear is we will hear very little and it will be locked up like JFK files for 50 years, and then still be suppressed. The fate of our Democracy is at stake.

[emulatorloo]

21. Kick and Rec, bookmarking...

[shanti]

24. Now I feel nauseous

I fear for our country.

[4TheArts]

25. Ah but it's Richard Burr.

Have found him to be rather despicable since I moved to NC some years ago. Sort of encouraging that he seems to be resisting some pressure to call things to an end. What he relates in the interview is certainly disturbing, and I want to know more, to know the whole truth. But it's Burr. I have trust/integrity issues with my Senator.

[renate]

29. That's so interesting, because I've been assuming that he was pretty decent

Compared to Nunez, anyway, but also he must have been pressured by McConnell to ease up on the Senate’s investigation, and he didn’t. He and Warner seem to be working well together.

I’m not disagreeing, since you’re more familiar with him than I am, just surprised.

[4TheArts]

32. Has his good moments I think

I know I got off to a bad start with Burr when I first moved here and wrote a letter to him inquiring about W's likelihood of being a war criminal. Burr responded that he saw no evidence of that, and declared W was doing a great job. So, kinda soured me early on. I'll admit he is better than Meadows.

[C_U_L8R]

30. Holy Shitballs !

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

31. Interesting. This is disturbing. Well it all is, but...

"The [probe] isn't compiling the story of one pivotal election, but of something larger, more complicated and—from a counterintelligence perspective—more nefarious. The final report may be so highly classified that a meaningful portion may not be made public."

Maybe it would be better for some particular reasons that the public doesn't know, but if it's just not to embarrass some of the evildoers or any other lame reason, I object. Far all the good that will do.

[mucifer]

33. I watched the video at the link. The reporter quoted Burr as saying they did not find collusion. So

I'm confused. Maybe it's the useful idiot theory. I don't get it.

[Roland99]

35. Burr might be evading a bit but it sure sounds like a lot is on the table

[highplainsdem]

34. K&R