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Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 01:54 PM Feb 2019

I am just "Biden" my time.. hoping Joe will join the race,but why the 'all outs' against the women

Candidates.. can we stop kneecapping all the women who have already jumped into the race.. Is it just me, but Harris for getting some kind of pass, Warren for accepting a family history she was raised with and a preemptive attack on Klobuchar for being too tough, Gillibrand etc... Not seen the same level of attacks on Booker or O' Rourke Buttigleg, Delaney, Brown, Castro or even my choice Biden.. pretty tame stuff thrown at them

If I have left anyone out, or soon to jump in.. apologies.. its hard to keep up with all the good people we have getting ready to take on the Trumpian Party..


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I am just "Biden" my time.. hoping Joe will join the race,but why the 'all outs' against the women (Original Post) Peacetrain Feb 2019 OP
When you read about what the Repubs did to Eleanor Roosevelt catrose Feb 2019 #1
I don't need to read about what the Republicans did to Eleanor, DURHAM D Feb 2019 #2
I have read the history.. and you are so right Peacetrain Feb 2019 #6
I grew up with family and neighbors who never once DURHAM D Feb 2019 #9
Right now the RW are busy ruining VA Dems. LakeArenal Feb 2019 #3
Biden would be a great candidate. He should promise to run for a one term presidency. IluvPitties Feb 2019 #4
Totally agree... Peacetrain Feb 2019 #5
Don't see what's taking Joe so long...he's had years to decide whether he wants to run. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2019 #14
I agree, Peacetrain peggysue2 Feb 2019 #7
Its getting ugly now, and will be a lot uglier.. Peacetrain Feb 2019 #8
Better to get this stuff out now rather than in October of 2020. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #10
The Misogyny is Ever Present - You Think We Would Have Learned by Now dlk Feb 2019 #11
How about Biden/Obama 2020? sinkingfeeling Feb 2019 #12
Michelle or Barack? IluvPitties Feb 2019 #13
Obama can't run again ... and if he did (and won), it would get tied up in the courts SFnomad Feb 2019 #16
Biden/Harris 2020 works for me! N/T Big Blue Marble Feb 2019 #18
I agree Andy823 Feb 2019 #15
Women are always targeted. Strong women, in particular, in professional... Guilded Lilly Feb 2019 #17
I like Joe Biden also Gothmog Feb 2019 #19
Not true that it's only against women Dopers_Greed Feb 2019 #20

catrose

(5,068 posts)
1. When you read about what the Repubs did to Eleanor Roosevelt
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:02 PM
Feb 2019

who didn't even run for anything (though FDR's mentor wanted her to be the first woman president) and then Hillary Clinton...now AOC, the presidential candidates, and other women who are stepping into public life...just business as usual. For myself, I'm not believing any of it--especially if cis straight white men are saying it, no matter what their party--even if these women shoot someone on Fifth Avenue. After all, there's always 2 sides, right?

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. I don't need to read about what the Republicans did to Eleanor,
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:06 PM
Feb 2019

I lived through it.

Actually, it was the press more than the Republicans. It was brutal.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
6. I have read the history.. and you are so right
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:18 PM
Feb 2019

The bile and vilification thrown are E. Roosevelt.. was horrid

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
9. I grew up with family and neighbors who never once
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:27 PM
Feb 2019

referred to her as Mrs. Roosevelt. They always called her Mrs. Hoosevelt. I assume this was a riff on Hooverville.

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
3. Right now the RW are busy ruining VA Dems.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019

I don’t believe it is real Dems and especially DUers knee capping other Dems.

I think our fault is falling for the kneecapping.

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
5. Totally agree...
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:16 PM
Feb 2019

He has given so much of his life to public service.. His knowledge base and all his connections with other governments would be a huge help in saving what is left of our government..I would love if he could do for the Executive branch what Pelosi is doing for the house... and mentor the next set of leaders.. Our current administration has been full bore tearing our Democracy and Allies down..

peggysue2

(10,830 posts)
7. I agree, Peacetrain
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:24 PM
Feb 2019

I was astonished with the Klobucher stories because all these 'whacks' are following a pattern. A female candidate barely gets out the gate and she's kneecapped for one reason or the other.

Oh Noes! She (whoever the candidate) is less than perfect! Toss her on the junk heap.

The same was evident in the Beto O'Rourke attacks--his popularity, his strength to attract supporters. The piranhas were released taking chunks out of his hide. Those attacks only subsided when he withdrew from all the chatter of a potential run.

We've seen this movie before. All of our candidates, particularly the strongest, most popular candidates have been targeted because the Republicans (and other factions) are desperate to take the shine off, reduce them all with a 'but . . .but her emails' legacy.

It's going to be a long, long election cycle.





The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,731 posts)
10. Better to get this stuff out now rather than in October of 2020.
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

It can be debunked or at least become old and uninteresting news by the time the primaries heat up if it's handled correctly now. I'm sure that as all the others, male or female, become official candidates, whatever skeletons they have or are claimed to have in their closets will be brought out too. That's politics. I'd rather have them vetted and proctoscoped now than later. I really don't think Warren's ancestry claims or Klobuchar's personnel management problems will be deciding factors once all 30 candidates or however many there will be are out campaigning. We probably won't even be able to keep track of which "scandal" belongs to whom.

Wouldn't it have been better if somebody had discovered Northam's yearbook photo before he ran for governor?

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
16. Obama can't run again ... and if he did (and won), it would get tied up in the courts
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:29 PM
Feb 2019

President Obama has earned his retirement ... leave him in peace.

And if by chance you were talking about Michelle, she has stated no, many times.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
15. I agree
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 02:59 PM
Feb 2019

There seems to be a group here on DU who just plain don't want "any" women to run. I keep seeing low count posters who "claim" to be Democrats, posting all kinds of hit pieces on the women who have announced they would run. Could be a bunch of the JPR crowed coming back, could be right wing trolls, or Russian trolls, things is they are stirring things up trying to divide people. We have to remember not to feed the trolls.

We have a great bunch of people to chose from, and I really think that scares republicans since they had such a crappy field to pick from the last time, and now they are figuring out that trump is a total disaster that they will have to deal with that in 2020.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
17. Women are always targeted. Strong women, in particular, in professional...
Sun Feb 10, 2019, 03:35 PM
Feb 2019

positions get the brunt of public criticism.
Whether out of insecurity or fear, misogyny or ignorance, conscious or deeply entrenched, gender targeting exists and is practiced constantly. All the time. It hasn’t changed, we are just finally talking more about the problem. I am sure it will get worse.

It isn’t just a political problem. It’s massive. Overwhelming, often. But it is being recognized more publicly.

This election, I imagine, will be the ugliest, meanest ever. And then some.
We have to be emotionally prepared.

There is a plus, though. Those who remain standing will be damned fierce, strong candidates-which we must have to win back the sanity and humanity from the current nightmare.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
20. Not true that it's only against women
Mon Feb 11, 2019, 11:11 AM
Feb 2019

Sanders gets the most hate of anyone on this site (though he's not a Dem technically).

But...I'm sure a lot of this "trouble" is being brewed by our site's users from St. Petersburg.

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