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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe snowplows are on my street. They just went by on the
other side, and will be coming down my side in about 10 minutes. Time to get the snowblower out to get rid of the huge lump at the end of my driveway.
St. Paul, MN clears all city streets, as a rule, in one night and one day. It's pretty amazing. They don't do a super clean job, but we're never snowbound for long. That's a good thing, since I need to do some grocery shopping.
Minnesota knows snow. If any other state wants to learn how fast snow removal works, they should visit St. Paul and find out how it is done.
NeoGreen
(4,031 posts)...
Climate in St. Paul, Minnesota
St. Paul, Minnesota gets 33 inches of rain, on average, per year. The US average is 39 inches of rain per year.
St. Paul averages 51 inches of snow per year. The US average is 26 inches of snow per year.
https://www.bestplaces.net/climate/city/minnesota/st._paul
Buffalo
Max: 199.4 inches (1976-77)[note 1]
Min: 36.7 inches (2011-12)
Average: 94.7 inches
Rochester
Max: 161.7 inches (1959-60)
Min: 41.7 inches (1952-53)
Average: 99.5 inches
Syracuse
Max: 192.1 inches (1992-93)
Min: 50.6 inches (2011-12)
Average: 123.8 inches
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Snowball_Award
FakeNoose
(32,791 posts)I lived in upstate New York (Albany-Schenectady area) for about 16 years and saw many big winter storms there. An average nor'easter would bring 22 inches or more in one 24 hour period, but it's usually all cleared by the next day. If not all cleared, at least people can get out and about. Schools have many snow days but I remember very few double-snow days (as in two days in a row.) Every year while I lived there, we'd have at least 3 big storms of 20+ inches and several smaller storms of 10 inches or more.
Now I'm back in Pittsburgh where I grew up, and in the last 30 years we've seen maybe 3 nor'easters of 22 inches or more. We have good snowplows and salt trucks here too, but our hills (within the Pittsburgh city limits) are killers! If you can imagine San Francisco with snow & ice, that's us. Luckily the big storms mostly miss us, because when we get hit, we're down for several days.
I have to say that the winters and the big storms in upstate New York were preferable to me because they were more predictable and manageable.
SharonAnn
(13,779 posts)to make that happen.
Another example of socialism!
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)I was living in a dorm then, and was coming in from my winter break, when the storm hit. Lake effect storm hit the school for 2 days (RIT/NTID) and school had to cancel for those two days. Fortunately the dorms were connected via underground tunnels to the cafeteria so we didn't starve. But getting to class was a bitch!
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)I went through one winter in Syracuse, way back in 1967.
malaise
(269,200 posts)A cold front and some much needed rain is coming our way today.
It is currently 79 degrees and will be between 69 and 72 tonight
magicarpet
(14,181 posts).... onto twenty 18 wheel dump trucks.
We are now headed for the street end of your driveway. What are the exact GPS coordinates of your property ?
Hope you have plenty of gas for that snow-blower. You will be out there past midnite moving all this snow we will dump at the end of your drive.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)because they don't have the equipment to do it. Here in Minneapolis the plows were out within hours to get the main streets cleared, but we have lots of plows so it gets done. A city that doesn't usually get a lot of snow won't invest in those very expensive snow plows and drivers, so when snow does happen they can't keep up. I remember having to go to Dallas for work a few years ago, and they had just had what passes for a snowstorm there - about 3". And the city was a mess - trucks off the road, huge traffic delays, unplowed roads. Here, we barely would have noticed the snow. But it's not so much a matter of not knowing how to do it; it's not having the equipment to do it.
subterranean
(3,427 posts)The little snow we do get most winters usually melts fairly quickly, so on the rare occasions when we get multiple heavy snowfalls in a short period, like we did this past week, it creates problems. The main streets, of course, get plowed, but the smaller streets might have to wait a while. That's why there was a run on food last Friday, as you may have heard. People had to prepare for the possibility of being snowed in for several days.
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,225 posts).
So, if I am in my driveway, looking at the street, I will clear the street to the left, 20 feet, making a pocket for most of the plow's snow to go, so the plow will be partially empty before it hits my driveway, it greatly diminished the buildup on the driveway's threshold.
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samplegirl
(11,504 posts)In Ohio about the plowing. My husband works for the state plowing! Incredibly long hours 16 hours in bad snows. 12 hours if if looks like snow or freezing rain.
All of them complaining about the gas tax now and infastructure that trump promised to fix. They want ODOT workers to not get raises...🤣 the last one was a quarter and they make low wages unless youve been there for thirty years. Unfortunately my husband has only 5 years after his factory sold after 31 years!
shraby
(21,946 posts)cul de sac.
I had to beef them up on how to do cul de sacs when we first moved here. They had moved all the snow to the outside edge which gave me a bank at the end of the drive that was wayyy over my head.
One call to the powers that be and next time they moved all the snow to the center of the cul de sac.
They understood if we had an emergency on this street, no one would be able to get out of their driveways until they could get it cleaned which took me all day just to do the end of it.
No one gets inundated since then. When they do clean up, they bring in dump trucks and a rig to put the snow in them and the center is cleared out pronto.
eppur_se_muova
(36,299 posts)Ole and Lena was at the kitchen table for the usual morning cup of coffee and listening to a weather report coming from the radio. "There will be 3 to 5 inches of snow today and a snow emergency has been declared. All vehicles should be parked on the odd-numbered side of the streets today to facilitate snowplows," the radio voice declared. "Oh, gosh, OK," said Ole, getting up, bundling up and heading outside to dutifully put his car on the odd-numbered side of the street.
Two days later, Ole and Lena were at morning coffee when the radio voice said: "There will be 2 to 4 inches of snow today and a snow emergency has been declared. You must park your vehicles on the even-numbered side of the streets." Ole got up from his coffee as before. He bundled up, shuffled off, and put his car on the even-numbered side of the street.
A few days later, the couple was at the table when the radio voice declared: "There will be 6 to 8 inches of snow today and a snow emergency has been declared. You must park your cars on the ..." Just then, the power went out. "Park it where?" Ole asked in the dark, "What should I do?" "Aw, to heck with them, Ole," Lena said, "Don't worry about it today. Just leave the car in the garage."
https://www.minnesota-visitor.com/ole-and-lena-jokes.html
lark
(23,160 posts)So for 2 days not much moved here. We were so unprepared for the snow. None of us had snow tires, there are no snow plows, and the bridges were completely unsafe and they are everywhere here since we have lots of rivers in this area.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)We dont know,(for sure) if it will rain or snow. The snow plows sent spectacular sprays of slush in the air.
We just dont..understand..snow after like 2 days.
magicarpet
(14,181 posts)Good thing he did not hit his head on the stone retaining wall just a little further to his right.
https://weather.com/news/trending/video/freezing-rain-in-st-louis-causes-priceless-fail
farmbo
(3,122 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,878 posts)Like the time last summer when a neighbor's tree fell on my yard but part of it was on the sidewalk so those socialists from the city came and hauled the whole thing away. Damn socialist dead tree removers.