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applegrove

(118,816 posts)
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 05:51 PM Feb 2019

2 millionaire senators introduce plan to make sure Congress is only for the rich

2 millionaire senators introduce plan to make sure Congress is only for the rich

Well, that's one way to deal with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

IAN MILLHISER at Think Progress

https://thinkprogress.org/rick-scott-seeks-to-make-senate-a-plutocrat-playground-46be0dcd38ed/

"SNIP.....

Let’s start this column off with a bold assertion. Paying lawmakers good salaries is one of our country’s most important progressive reforms because it means that they don’t have to be wealthy to serve. High congressional pay is a safeguard against corruption, not a sign of it.

Bear this assertion in mind as you consider this proposal.

Rick Scott

✔@SenRickScott

This morning I co-sponsored a bill to end congressional pensions with @SenatorBraun.

Americans shouldn't have to foot the bill for generous salaries and pensions for members of Congress, and I’m proud to be working on common sense solutions to make DC work for all families.

The Washington Times

✔@WashTimes

GOP senators Scott, Braun introduce bill to end congressional pensions https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/12/rick-scott-mike-braun-bill-end-congress-pensions/ …

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Scott’s net worth was $232.6 million at the end of 2017 — not bad for a man who led a company that paid $1.7 billion in fines for widespread Medicare and Medicaid fraud. His co-sponsor, Sen. Mike Braun (R-IN), is worth between $35 million and $96 million, according to his campaign disclosure forms. So Scott and Braun can afford to forego their pensions — or their entire salary, if they choose.


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2 millionaire senators introduce plan to make sure Congress is only for the rich (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2019 OP
Sounds like a huge red herring to me... Wounded Bear Feb 2019 #1
Get your money via fraud then head to the Senate malaise Feb 2019 #2
Divide and conquer. Play to the stupidity of joe the plumber who thinks Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #3
I'm sure the thought of ending salaries for those with a net worth north of $20 mil.... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2019 #4
write that up and send it in Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #11
Good thought. Pepsidog Feb 2019 #14
I just don't see this getting traction TexasBushwhacker Feb 2019 #5
I agree Silver Swan Feb 2019 #10
Boy, we all do have to be ever vigilant!!!!! This sort of thing might have... LAS14 Feb 2019 #6
Scott became a multi-millionaire by stealing from Medicare & Medicaid. lpbk2713 Feb 2019 #7
It ties back to their "Congress shouldn't be a career" message in support of term limits brooklynite Feb 2019 #8
How about that they work free and no pension if they have over ooky Feb 2019 #9
I'd go with a number somewhat lower than $35 million, cloudbase Feb 2019 #12
Unfortunately I think there are only one or two Senators who aren't millionaires - Chris Murphy... George II Feb 2019 #13
You know what I would not oppose limits on their salary either however I also think to keep things cstanleytech Feb 2019 #15
If only we still had pensions throughout the private sector. nt Ilsa Feb 2019 #16
I think members of Congress should just be in social security rather than a pension system dhol82 Feb 2019 #17
My old boss in Public Works told me about the low low county salaries in the South. He said ... Hekate Feb 2019 #18

Wounded Bear

(58,721 posts)
1. Sounds like a huge red herring to me...
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 05:54 PM
Feb 2019

Propose something that sounds progressive, but actually benefits the wealthy and has no chance of passing any way.

I'm all for rolling back how generous congressional pensions are, but let's have a rational discussion, not some Repub stunt.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,121 posts)
3. Divide and conquer. Play to the stupidity of joe the plumber who thinks
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:00 PM
Feb 2019

politicians are getting rich.

Some are, but doing this will only ASSURE rich people in office.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,380 posts)
4. I'm sure the thought of ending salaries for those with a net worth north of $20 mil....
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:03 PM
Feb 2019

never entered into it.

Here's where I would place the threshold;

If your net worth was converted into 30 year Treasuries, and the annual interest income from those bonds would exceed the current salary for being a Senator, you don't get paid to be one.

Right now that Net Worth level is $5,800,000 based on a 3% coupon.

$5.8 million worth of bonds paying 3% will generate $174,000 a year.

So....Senator Scott (As a Floridian, I am really sorry he is up there now) you get fucking diddly.

AOC and everyone else like her however, gets her full salary and the normal pension just like your predecessors voted for, you slimy, criminal dickhead.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,447 posts)
11. write that up and send it in
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:14 PM
Feb 2019

I would add in a salary cap: Elected officials may not be paid any more than the median income + benefits of their constituents.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,219 posts)
5. I just don't see this getting traction
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:04 PM
Feb 2019

Members of Congress get the same penions, based on income and years of employment, that all federal employees get. Yes, the pension of someone with over 30 years is substantial, but that could be said of any pension for a person with a high salary and many years of experience. They have to contribute to BOTH Social Security and FERS.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
6. Boy, we all do have to be ever vigilant!!!!! This sort of thing might have...
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:06 PM
Feb 2019

.. curbside appeal for many people, but the OP is right!!! Then only the rich could serve in congress.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
7. Scott became a multi-millionaire by stealing from Medicare & Medicaid.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:08 PM
Feb 2019


He's a weasel of the first order and this doesn't surprise me at all.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Unfortunately I think there are only one or two Senators who aren't millionaires - Chris Murphy...
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:44 PM
Feb 2019

...is the only one who comes to mind.

cstanleytech

(26,322 posts)
15. You know what I would not oppose limits on their salary either however I also think to keep things
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 07:10 PM
Feb 2019

from getting to out of hand that all income that comes from other than their government wage should be set at the tax rate of 70% and that includes income for a spouse thats over that amount that they get paid.

dhol82

(9,353 posts)
17. I think members of Congress should just be in social security rather than a pension system
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

Let them live like the rest of us peons.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
18. My old boss in Public Works told me about the low low county salaries in the South. He said ...
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 08:30 PM
Feb 2019

...it was a complete set-up for corruption, because employees were expected to make up the difference in gratuities and contacts -- aka graft, bribes, and croneyism.

Our department was doing some hiring at the time, and this was apropos of what some people complained of as overly-generous salaries.

It was a point well-taken for all public servant type jobs, including elected officials.

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