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nolabear

(41,991 posts)
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:04 PM Aug 2012

Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't modern day presidents had mostly daughters?

Obama--2 daughters
Bush--2 daughters
Clinton--1 daughter
Bush the Elder--2 sons, 1 daughter
Reagan--1 son, 1 daughter
Carter--1 daughter
Ford--1 son, 1 daughter
Nixon--2 daughters
Johnson--2 daughters
Kennedy--1 son, 1 daughter

Did I miss anybody? Reagan had a son he didn't sire, right?

So, that whole "He's presidential material by force of his male-producing loins" doesn't hold a hell of a lot of water, does it?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't modern day presidents had mostly daughters? (Original Post) nolabear Aug 2012 OP
Carter had three grown sons when he was president LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #1
I see you're right re Carter. Adoption doesn't count. nolabear Aug 2012 #5
Reagan's children Freddie Aug 2012 #12
Reagan's daughter by Jane Wyman, Maureen, was biological. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2012 #38
Kick for emphasis. nolabear Aug 2012 #2
JFK was the last president to have a boy in the White House bluestateguy Aug 2012 #3
Gerald Ford had sons. virgogal Aug 2012 #32
Jimmy Carter also had 3 sons. Arkansas Granny Aug 2012 #4
Yep. That Neanderthal! nolabear Aug 2012 #6
The third son of JFK was Patrick nt LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #8
2 daughters & 2 sons PAMod Aug 2012 #35
I presume you're talking about the article "Like a Boss" in the National Review? Chorophyll Aug 2012 #7
Thanks for the link. That is what I was referring to. Little did I know nolabear Aug 2012 #23
Yeah, I see that. Blecch. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #30
Well if Republicans want to go there we could talk about Romney's sons... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #33
If you are referin to US Presidents Jeneral2885 Aug 2012 #9
Bush 1 had 4 sons, 1 daughter Retrograde Aug 2012 #10
Ummmm........that would be 44 (but who's counting, right?) WillowTree Aug 2012 #39
But no! Obama is the 44th president, but the 43rd person to be president muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #40
I think Bush the Elder has three sons treestar Aug 2012 #11
You forgot Marvin SoCalDem Aug 2012 #17
Wow, Poppy was quite a man! treestar Aug 2012 #34
That's correct, but it's still a 50/50 every time. Coincidence. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #13
Reagan had 2 daughters: Maureen and Patti. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #14
FDR and Eleanor Freddie Aug 2012 #15
Like you have anything to do with what sex your baby has... YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #16
Well excuse me, your Royal Duckieship. nolabear Aug 2012 #20
Apparently stress is a factor as well 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #22
Good for you Nolabear . . . fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #27
I wasn't calling Nola stupid. YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #37
I wasn't calling YOU stupid. YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #36
Moot point. Romney will never be president. FSogol Aug 2012 #18
i won't even acknowledge this fucking nonsense spanone Aug 2012 #19
Look, I was just musing about the National Reivew article citing Romney's superiority nolabear Aug 2012 #21
The National Review apparently thinks this is China SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #24
Don't let it get to you nolabear. bluesbassman Aug 2012 #25
Nolabear is referring to the article below: Chorophyll Aug 2012 #28
Is this a shot at Obama for having "girly sperm"? Redford Aug 2012 #26
It's a shot at the article below: Chorophyll Aug 2012 #29
speaking of waste of sperm, Bush I had four sons, two daughters: lastlib Aug 2012 #31
Quite frankly the whole "He's presidential material by force of his male-producing loins" ... Ganja Ninja Aug 2012 #41
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
1. Carter had three grown sons when he was president
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:09 PM
Aug 2012

and Reagan also adopted a boy and a girl with Jane Wyman

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
12. Reagan's children
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:20 PM
Aug 2012

Maureen (RIP) was his bio daughter with Jane Wyman; Michael is their adopted son
Ron and Patti are his children with Nancy.

Interestingly, St. Ronnie has no biological grandchildren--can't pass that DNA along, darn.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. JFK was the last president to have a boy in the White House
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:10 PM
Aug 2012

The Lincolns had two, and one died of a fever.

Arkansas Granny

(31,531 posts)
4. Jimmy Carter also had 3 sons.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:10 PM
Aug 2012

JFK and Jackie had another son while he was President, but the baby died shortly after birth.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
7. I presume you're talking about the article "Like a Boss" in the National Review?
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:12 PM
Aug 2012

Because it was the most sexist, unscientific piece of garbage I've seen in quite some time. I think everyone needs to read it, to see that the "educated" conservatives are just as stupid as the ones with the poorly spelled picket signs.

And yes, you're right about the presidential son-to-daughter ratio.

Here's the link.

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/313504/boss

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
23. Thanks for the link. That is what I was referring to. Little did I know
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:49 PM
Aug 2012

DU has lost its tolerance for whatever the hell it was I did by joking about it. I'm getting a drubbing by the smug and humorless among us.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
30. Yeah, I see that. Blecch.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:12 PM
Aug 2012

I don't do a lot of OPs, but I guess you have to do a little hand-holding with the links.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
33. Well if Republicans want to go there we could talk about Romney's sons...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:20 PM
Aug 2012

don't they all shoot blanks or something?

Retrograde

(10,158 posts)
10. Bush 1 had 4 sons, 1 daughter
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:15 PM
Aug 2012

There's Shrub, Jeb, Neil, the One They Don't Talk About, and a daughter; there was also a daughter who died young.

Reagan had 2 sons (1 adopted, IIRC) and 2 daughters. Carter has 3 sons in addition to his daughter; I think Ford had more than 1 son. FWIW, Lincoln had 4 sons, no daughters, Washington had no known children.

Statistically, given a large enough sample, which 43 people isn't, you'd expect half sons, half daughters. The National Review article is just trying to make something significant out of random biology: Romney having 5 sons is irrelevant to any leadership abilities he may have.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts)
40. But no! Obama is the 44th president, but the 43rd person to be president
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:03 AM
Aug 2012
Barack Obama is the nation's 44rd president but in reality there have only been 43 presidents. Grover Cleveland is counted twice as our 22nd and 24th president because he was elected for two nonconsecutive terms.

http://www.history.com/topics/presidential-election-facts

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. I think Bush the Elder has three sons
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:16 PM
Aug 2012

Dubya, Jeb and Neil.

The idea is stupid and the idiot who wrote the piece is just trying to make something of Mittens having 5 sons - he's trying to use this, which only happened by chance, as a good reason to vote for Mitt. Pathetic.

And not even thinking about other Presidents! The opponents' progeny would matter I guess. Obama only won because his opponent didn't have sons either.

But then Clinton shouldn't have beaten Poppy. And women may flock to Clinton, but not to Poppy. Or Mittens for that matter.

How desperate they are. The polls don't even justify it. I guess they are preparing for the inevitable slide as more and more voters actually pay attention to Mittens.

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
15. FDR and Eleanor
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:30 PM
Aug 2012

Had 5 sons (one died in infancy) and 1 daughter. Read where they would have had an even bigger family but Eleanor ended "that part of their marriage" when she discovered love letters from one of his mistresses.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
16. Like you have anything to do with what sex your baby has...
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:30 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:34 PM - Edit history (1)

...It's a random pick which Chromosome is donated. It was stupid for them to even make this an issue.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
20. Well excuse me, your Royal Duckieship.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:43 PM
Aug 2012

And you might want to go back to the books. Although I'm being well schooled in my kid count, some men do have a propensity to throw Xes over Ys and vice versa. Environmental factors sway the odds as well. I don't mind being schooled, but I won't be called stupid.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
22. Apparently stress is a factor as well
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:47 PM
Aug 2012

women under stress are more likely to spontaneously abort male fetuses over female.

So following some horrific event, like a major disaster or famine, you're more likely to have a shift towards girls (all else being equal).

fleur-de-lisa

(14,628 posts)
27. Good for you Nolabear . . .
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:06 PM
Aug 2012

Too many rude people today. If you're not interested in the topic, don't respond.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
37. I wasn't calling Nola stupid.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:33 PM
Aug 2012

I was calling the idiot right wingers stupid.
It was a misunderstanding. One for which I apologized.

YellowRubberDuckie

(19,736 posts)
36. I wasn't calling YOU stupid.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:32 PM
Aug 2012

I was calling THEM stupid for even making it any issue.
I sincerely apologize if I was unclear...
I have edited for clarity. Again. I'm sorry.
Mel

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
21. Look, I was just musing about the National Reivew article citing Romney's superiority
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:46 PM
Aug 2012

for having sired a houseful of males. If that's "fucking nonsense" then half of DU is fucking nonsense.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
24. The National Review apparently thinks this is China
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 06:51 PM
Aug 2012

I can understand the confusion I suppose, what with Romney sending so many of our jobs there.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
25. Don't let it get to you nolabear.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:01 PM
Aug 2012

Half of DU is fucking nonsense these days. This thread shows prime examples of people jumping all over an OP without regard for context or current events. It gets frustrating, but I think it's just a byproduct of being this far into the presidential election cycle.

lastlib

(23,287 posts)
31. speaking of waste of sperm, Bush I had four sons, two daughters:
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 07:13 PM
Aug 2012

Dumbson George, Jeb, Neil, Marvin
Dorothy, and Pauline (died of leukemia?)

Jimmy Carter also had three sons.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
41. Quite frankly the whole "He's presidential material by force of his male-producing loins" ...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:09 AM
Aug 2012

is such a stupid comment it isn't worth serious discussion.

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