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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:16 AM Feb 2019

OH FFS: Mika on Pence..."What has haaaaaaaaaaaaaappened to him?"

That's right, Mika. All of a sudden, totally out of nowhere, Mike Pence has become a hypocritical prick.

Morning Joe played a 2014 clip with Pence "urging" Obama to work with the "newly minted Republican congress" to find common ground and not circumvent them with executive actions.

Cue hand-wringing concern troll Mika.

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OH FFS: Mika on Pence..."What has haaaaaaaaaaaaaappened to him?" (Original Post) Miles Archer Feb 2019 OP
Mika who? nt backabby-blue Feb 2019 #1
Mika, here's what happened, watoos Feb 2019 #2
trump sucked out pence's soul DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #3
Pence has never had a soul. LiberalFighter Feb 2019 #4
Good point nt DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #24
Like that...trump is a soul sucker Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #8
And it's a safe substitute for that unacceptable term nt DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #25
NICE!! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2019 #26
Jim Jones has nothing on Trump. He is a soul-sucker for sure. A bad Faustian dealmaker for sure. Pepsidog Feb 2019 #29
He hatched crazytown Feb 2019 #5
What didn't you like about it. She was melodramatic Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2019 #6
It has nothing to do with calling him out...it was her reaction to his being called out Miles Archer Feb 2019 #12
Yes!! I totally agree!! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2019 #28
Nothing happened to him, Mika. He was disingenuous then, he's disingenuous now. JHB Feb 2019 #7
Why is anyone surprised at this? Zoonart Feb 2019 #9
Beautifully stated Zoonart! Why aren't you writing for a joint that will share its ad revenue? DemocracyMouse Feb 2019 #11
Thanks DM. Zoonart Feb 2019 #13
Mika is a Democrat, with bona fide credentials. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #14
Mika is a paid wind sock. Zoonart Feb 2019 #15
Your facts are wrong. You just don't like her. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #16
We will have to agree to disagree. Zoonart Feb 2019 #17
Those are just facts. Joe did see some things that Democrats didn't see. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author NCChomskyan Feb 2019 #19
Your facts are wrong. stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #20
Nope. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #23
Well said! LuvNewcastle Feb 2019 #18
+1 DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #30
Pretty much the same with all republicans PatSeg Feb 2019 #10
Mika and Joe are RWNJ'S ! stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #21
pence was an asshole congressman. spanone Feb 2019 #27
 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
3. trump sucked out pence's soul
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 08:45 AM
Feb 2019

Just like he does to anyone else who comes too close to the soul-sucking event horizon and winds up crushed in the evil singularity that is donald j trump.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
26. NICE!!
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:41 AM
Feb 2019

Trump is nothing but a Super Massive Black Hole within the human species that you so eloquently described!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
6. What didn't you like about it. She was melodramatic
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:04 AM
Feb 2019

But wasn't it a good thing calling him out? Have to say he seemed 100% different in 2014. He now looks like he's in a hypnotic spell. Staring into space. He is on God's mission now. Like a cult follower. Facts don't matter.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
12. It has nothing to do with calling him out...it was her reaction to his being called out
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:33 AM
Feb 2019

The "what happened" comment. That's why I posted it. Yes, absolutely, show the clip and call him a hypocrite, because that's exactly what he is.

What I didn't like about it was her asking "what happened." NOTHING happened. It was Pence being Pence. Nothing changed. By asking "what happened," there's the implication that he changed into something lesser than he was. No, he didn't. He's the same snake he's always been.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
28. Yes!! I totally agree!!
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:47 AM
Feb 2019

Pence has not changed a bit...He is currently playing the role of an obedient brain washed zombified staring off into space TRUMP CULT member ONLY because he is convinced it will pay huge dividends down the road...PRESIDENT PENCE!

JHB

(37,161 posts)
7. Nothing happened to him, Mika. He was disingenuous then, he's disingenuous now.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:04 AM
Feb 2019

But if you want to advertise that you couldn't see the obvious, please proceed.

Zoonart

(11,869 posts)
9. Why is anyone surprised at this?
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:12 AM
Feb 2019

MIka and Joe are REPUBLICANS. They hate MF45 but they are REPUBLICANS. AS with many of the "specialists' employed on MSNBC daily to derail the serious policy conversations we need to be having in this situation.

They are the grave robbers that brought the body parts to the GOP lab and now they do not like the way the monster turned out. But it's a presidential election cycle now and it's time for more Republican corpses to be reanimated... time to stitch together a new and better monster.

Bothsiderism is abroad in the land once more. Steve Schmitt is already shilling for his own monster...which Republican will Jennifer Rubin reanimate? or Michael Steele?

They are not our friends. They are a big part of the manufacturing of this disaster.



Zoonart

(11,869 posts)
13. Thanks DM.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:40 AM
Feb 2019

I appreciate the kudos, but I am a fiction writer and a paniter and those pursuits are all I can handle.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. Mika is a Democrat, with bona fide credentials.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:48 AM
Feb 2019

She's a moderate, from what I can tell, like many Democrats. Her background, though, is as a lifelong Democrat. Her father worked in the LBJ and Carter administrations, a highly respected foreign policy expert.

If you don't know she's a Democrat, I wonder how you can express an opinion on her or the show. ???

Mika and Joe did nothing to enable the Trump election. In fact, in 2016 they were one of the highest-profile, highly-watched anti-Trump shows in the country. If you watched the show regularly, you'd know that.

Instead of criticizing, you should thank them.

Zoonart

(11,869 posts)
15. Mika is a paid wind sock.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:51 AM
Feb 2019

She and Joe helped create this monster. They were all in until MF45 slandered her in public. I don't care what her voter registration is.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. Your facts are wrong. You just don't like her.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:56 AM
Feb 2019

In 2016 they were anti-Trump, once he won the nomination. Before then, no one thought he'd really win the nomination....except Joe did seem to realize that Trump might win the nomination, unlike many others. Joe was establishment Republican who supported Jeb Bush, but as a Republican, he could see what was happening.

When you watch Mika, you are watching a fairly typical Democrat on the issues.

If you watched the show regularly, you'd understand it. They had all the presidential candidates on, if they wanted to appear. It wasn't a political talk show where they would be hostile to their guests. They'd have a candidate on, ask questions (including some hard questions), but their job was not to argue with them. That changed when Trump got the nomination. They no longer had him on, and took an anti-Trump position.

You should send an email and thank them. They had a lot to do with letting the general public know what Trump was about. Millions watch their morning show who do not watch evening political talk shows.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. Those are just facts. Joe did see some things that Democrats didn't see.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

As an establishment Republican, he did see some things that the public at large didn't see. He supported Jeb Bush, but acknowledged along the way that Trump could win the nomination, when it got closer to the primary. And he was right.

They are not a partisan show like the late night talk shows. They don't present one viewpoint, and that can be tough to watch. But it's important to hear it.

I have watched the show almost every day since it started. I know the positions of both of them very well. I know the show very well. I used to keep it on while getting dressed for work every day. Many people see it occasionally or have seen clips, which doesn't present a complete picture. It would be like the only impression of Rachel's show is to watch a few clips. I saw one show where she actually got some facts wrong. That's unusual for her, for if someone saw that one show, they would not have had a good impression of it. I love the Maddow show, and I watch it regularly, so I know what she and her show are like because of that. She's the best at getting facts right and putting them all together and presenting them in a simplified manner.

I don't like Mika personally. But to say she's a Republican shill is just flat wrong. She is a moderate Democrat, and that is a fact.

Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #16)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
23. Nope.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:21 AM
Feb 2019

I've watched the show almost every day since it began. I know a lot of about the show and both of them.

Mika is a moderate Democratic morning political talk show. She is the second banana. Joe, whose show it was from the start, was establishment Republican. They have both Democrats and Republicans on their show. It can be hard to watch for those who are used to watching only one viewpoint, whether Democratic or Republican. That's not what their show is.

Mika's father served in Carter's administration. Mika has said nothing but nice things about Carter. As you know, Republicans hate Carter. Her father also served as an advisor to LBJ.

Joe is a typical establishment Republican. He shows respect both to Republicans and to Democrats who appear on his show, and genuinely likes many Democrats. Obviously, since he married one.

They were both against Trump for President, although Joe was more likely to admit that Trump had more of a chance than many thought.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
18. Well said!
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 10:04 AM
Feb 2019

That's exactly what they do; I just never quite thought of it that way. We're living in a Frankenstein world, only in our world the villagers never rose up against the doctor. In our world, Dr. Frankenstein builds bigger and scarier monsters every 4-8 years and we villagers have to live in fear of what the current monster will do next. When will the villagers finally get enough?

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
30. +1
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 11:40 AM
Feb 2019

joe and mika are one of the prime reasons the orange shit-stain is in the White House. When their ratings were tanking and their radio show was taken off the air they let trump come on or call in anytime he liked. They gave him air time when he was floundering early and kept him viable enough to stay in the race.

And they are pubicans. Like the rest you mentioned. And you can never trust a pubican.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
10. Pretty much the same with all republicans
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 09:13 AM
Feb 2019

The hypocrisy runs deep in the party and they act like yesterday never happened, that we have no video from those bygone days.

Republicans are political chameleons and though it is common knowledge to those who are paying attention, the media is right to point it out every single time. Maybe some less engaged voters will get a clue and maybe the mainstream media will quick giving republicans a pass.

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