Did Stephanie Ruhle just call AOC the reverse Trump?

[Baitball Blogger]

Really? I wish someone on MSNBC would actually analyze AOC's platform and draw a line where they feel it's too extreme. That would be more helpful than judging her based on her age, enthusiasm and political labels.

[onecaliberal]

1. What do you expect from her? Turn the channel.

[Solomon]

10. She's scared as hell of having her millions

taxed.

[onecaliberal]

28. Exactly.

[FakeNoose]

50. Stephanie Ruhle has millions?

They don't make that much dough at MSNBC. Is she a trust-fund baby?

[Rocky888]

54. She is a Wall Street alumn.

[Eyeball_Kid]

2. It's odd. From what I heard/read about AOC,

the issues for which she advocates have majority support. But media outlets are BRANDING her as extreme. She's really not. The same thing occurred with Bernie Sanders over the past few years. His main issues were within the mainstream of political preferences as expressed by voters. But even mainstream media sources branded Sanders as extreme (socialist!) without paying attention to the details. IMO, the media is very good at controlling the narrative and branding (news is now "entertainment" ), but is sorely deficient at an analysis of issues promoted by those who are branded as extreme.

[watoos]

6. Well said except for one point,

the right wing M$M is not about entertainment, profits are secondary. The right wing M$M is complicit and yes that includes msnbc. Donahue, Olbermann, Uygur, Brashear, Harris/Perry, Schultz, Ratigan were all fired from msnbc, not because of poor ratings but because those people strayed from the right wing narratives.

I go way back to when Tweety and Donahue were arguing over invading Iraq. Tweety was for it, Donahue was against it, msnbc fired Donahue.

I do watch Nicole Wallace, and Rachel, they stray from the narratives from time to time, but msnbc is not liberal, it merely puts a liberal slant to the right wing narratives.

If cable news were truly fair and balanced, Trump would be impeached by now. Instead we arguing over whether Democrats are going too far in investigating the criminal, traitorous Trump crime family.

[c-rational]

52. I like your line of thinking...M$M is corporate and complicit. I agree if they were fair and

balanced the orange dumpster would be impeached and the public would be believe in climate change and on and on and on...

[Baitball Blogger]

7. I think it's time to stand up and make sure they don't brand her.

[bdamomma]

43. AOC is everything

that they are not. Of course and unfortunately they go after those who are vibrant and determined and want to make a difference.

AOC carry on.

I have read the other posts here, ok she's not perfect neither are we, but she will learn by her mistakes.

[Baitball Blogger]

45. Exactly.

I can handle a few starter gaffes. So much better than the calcified reasoning of long-term Republicans.

[NewJeffCT]

3. I've also heard her referred to

as the Sarah Palin of the left... by Democrats

While she's had a few gaffes, she is nowhere close to Palin.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. She is a quick study. If we keep the media honest, she'll overcome the gaffes.

I would rather this short-term learning curve than what Clarence Thomas did for years, silencing his own voice in order to deflect criticism.

I don't expect all Democrats to love her platform and I'm not sure I am behind her 100%. But I think her fresh new voice deserves to be heard, and that won't happen if the media tries to brand her without looking closely at what she brings to the table.

[watoos]

4. They want to bring her down, badly,

she has the ability to change the right wing narratives, a rare talent. They would love to Franken her.

We need to have her back. She is not perfect but none of our Democratic politicians are.

You go girl.

[Demsrule86]

5. AOC was elected to serve her district. I can not see how losing 25,000 jobs plus

additional jobs which would be created is a good thing. She is so talented but I fear the tweet she sent claiming Amazon's withdrawal as a victory will hurt her politically with those who will re-elect her or not in 20. I just don't know what to think about this.

[melman]

8. You sound very concerned

[Demsrule86]

22. Yeah, I like OAC...I want her to succeed in her district and win re-election next time

[redstatebluegirl]

11. I agree with you but get ready to be slammed.

If you don't agree with AOC it is like not agreeing with Bernie. She is very talented though.

[watoos]

12. Do you think that Bezos pulled out,

because AOC was against the deal? Why does she get slammed? The offers, the tax breaks were still on the table for Bezos. I wish I had her for my rep instead of Glenn Thompson.

[redstatebluegirl]

13. No I don't but she is a politician.

She has given her opposition ammunition in the next election. The ads write themselves. I like her, I just think she is setting herself up for a really nasty reelection.

[still_one]

16. It was a business decision from Amazon's perspective. Northern Virginia and Nashville welcomed

Amazon with open arms, and they didn't want to hassle with the politics of New York, so it was simply the path of least resistance.

To your question why does Representative Ocasio-Cortez "get slammed", it goes both ways. She is admired by some, and not by others. It appears that she has a tendency to create publicity for herself, either intentionally or otherwise, and that in itself will be a lightening rod for controversy among various groups

[bdamomma]

44. Northern Virginia

and Nashville need jobs.

[Demsrule86]

23. It won't be the first time I am slammed...I just don't think losing all those jobs with 70% of the

state in favor of the deal ( or so I read)...is a good thing. I am hoping for the best.

[redstatebluegirl]

25. Yes I agree.

The perception being put out there by the right is that she caused it. Doesn't matter if it is not totally true, but she did come out openly against it which I think is short sighted.

[Demsrule86]

27. The perception is they followed her lead...don't know if that is true or not. She put out a tweet

saying it was a victory...I think that was unwise as many New Yorkers favored the deal. I like AOC but this is a mess.

[redstatebluegirl]

30. I predict it will bite her big time in the next election.

Like I said the ads write themselves. I don't think her district is totally in favor of her position. She is doing things thinking nationally not locally and she won't get reelected doing that.

[Demsrule86]

32. District races are local. I think it will hurt her too. The Democrats fearing a loss to the

GOP may field a primary candidate to make sure the seat stays with us. I like her and think she is talented but inexperienced.

[redstatebluegirl]

34. I think she is inexperienced as well.

Plus she got so much national attention it went to her head.

[getagrip_already]

14. Those jobs weren't in her district.....

She's a loud mouth newbie. Good ideas, but she doesn't know how to handle the media. Social media, yes, media, no.

I like her spirit, but she needs to learn how to be serious and not just toss grenades.

Sorry to her fans.

[still_one]

18. While negotiations were going on, some decided to negotiate this through the public airwaves, Amazon

simply did not want to deal with that when there were places that were welcoming them with open arms.

Negotiating in public usually does not provide a productive outcome.

[getagrip_already]

19. I'm actually torn on this...

On the one hand, amazon isn't either pulling out of new york/lic or not putting 25k jobs into it. Amazon was building a new "hq" building. A large number of the people who would work there are likely already working in the ny area, just in smaller office locations. They surely would have consolidated existing employees.

Companies always do that.

Also, they will still add new employees to the nyc area, it will just cost them more to house them. They can't not be an employer in nyc. The city is the epicenter of finance, marketing, commerce, and yes, tech.

So new york didn't lose 25k new jobs, despite how it was positioned.

But at the same time, it wouldn't have had he impact on housing people were concerned about because a lot of those who would work there wouldn't live there.

So I think both sides blew it here. We lost the media war over stupid comments. I've seen multiple news casters say it was a terrible week for dems. Huh? What?

It wasn't a battle we needed. It didn't save any neighborhoods or keep housing affordable. It didn't cost the region 25k jobs.

Everybody lost on this one. Inexperience matters.

[still_one]

39. I agree with your analysis, though I think Amazon lost very little from this

[getagrip_already]

40. They wouldn't have backed out if it would have cost them.....

So yeah, it's either more of an annoyance to them, or it would have cost them more (aka unions) to go forward..

[Demsrule86]

33. Those jobs would be available for her district though...if you get what I am saying.

[still_one]

15. 70% of NYers wanted Amazon. 30% oppossed it. There are views on both sides of this.

Amazon made a business decision that it was in their interest to go to places that overwhelmingly welcomed, Northern Virginia and Nashville. It really is as simple as that.

Only time will determine the consequences of this.

[Demsrule86]

21. I am not saying she was the deciding factor...I am saying the tweet she made calling it a victory

was in my opinion unwise politically speaking...it could cost her politically in her district and that would be a damned shame as she is exciting and talented.

[still_one]

38. I agree, and there is no doubt the republicans are going to paint Democrats as anti-business, when

that isn’t true. Generalizing the Democratic Party based on group within the party is a gross misrepresentation

The silence of the republicans on Steve King or even the unscrupulous actions of Trump, only demonstrate their hypocrisy, and double standard

[Demsrule86]

41. You said it better than I did...I agree completely.

[aidbo]

17. If u think the jobs numbers would pan out like amazon said, maybe you should..

..look at this bridge I’m selling...

[Demsrule86]

24. I think they would pan out and there would be more jobs. We have an Amazon warehouse in Cleveland.

It has given us a number of good paying jobs (for our area) and lead to other jobs being created because of the Amazon jobs. There is no doubt, it has been a positive thing. And this was a headquarters...even better in my opinion. I tweeted Bezos today reminding him of our warehouse and suggesting that a headquarters in Cleveland which has a great deal to offer would be worth considering. Hell, I want those jobs if we can get them.

[theophilus]

20. I find it darkly amusing that Amazon is being painted as a victim. They chose

to bolt on the deal. What they are afraid of a few voices that speak against their business model? Poor Jeff.

The people of Long Island City victims? I heard that 700 jobs were promised the first year. What sort of jobs? Has Amazon hurt any types of jobs? Do they pay a living wage for the area? Do they provide good healthcare benefits? Can't they come in a provide jobs if they are interested in the area? Can anyone else do better than Amazon was going to do? Shall we just vote to give BeZos ALL the money? What a crock. IMHO

[Demsrule86]

26. My friend Barbara who lives in Queens and is hopping mad about this told me that local leaders

and AOC had refused to meet with Bezos. And that they were doing some permit that would have required a six month wait...don't know if this is accurate...Just what my friend told me. The governor and the mayor also should shoulder blame...this was a good deal. They should have been working it too...I don't know. I like all the Democrats involved. I just think this worked out very badly for everyone.

[DonCoquixote]

51. very simple

many new yorkers did not want Amazon, because they saw how it drove people out of Seattle with sky high rent increases. It makes no sense to bring jobs to your town if you cannot afford to live near them.

[LisaM]

53. Yes - I live in Seattle. We're the poster child of the harm Amazon can do.

Rents are insane, they knock down affordable housing to build luxury housing, there was a small one bedroom house for sale in my neighborhood (just a regular neighborhood), for $1.1 million, transit is stretched to the limit, the displaced people from housing that's been knocked down are flooding the streets, and local businesses are closing in droves.

And they're bringing these workers in - population is increasing at an unsustainable level. They're not jobs for people who were already here.

[marble falls]

55. Its time to quit giving these corporation tax relief.

[jalan48]

29. Corporate News Protecting Corporate Interests.

Why would media behemoth Comcast want higher taxes on corporations?

[Polly Hennessey]

31. Stephanie, Stephanie, Stephanie.

Sounds like she is making you worry about losing some of your husband’s millions.

[Baitball Blogger]

35. You mean, her husband's millions?

[Horizens]

36. AOC

All Hat, No Cattle … but a lot of press. She’s made more than a few embarrassing gaffes that demonstrated her lack any in depth knowledge. Prior to yesterday, she was the only Democrat to vote (twice) not to end the shutdown providing a nonsensical reason as to why she so voted (and again demonstrating her lack of knowledge). Amazingly, she did all that during her first 3 weeks in office. And don’t get me started on Just Us Democrats.

Her Green New Deal is a headline without substance that the Rep senate will use to embarrass the Dems.

We have any number of outstanding people, (Pelosi, Warren, Harris, Klobucher, Brown etc) who I’d far prefer speak for me.

[FiveGoodMen]

46. You're the second low-count poster in this thread spouting shit

On ignore you go, too!

[Baitball Blogger]

48. She received her early indoctrination at Deutsche Bank

So it's possible that her perspective is a bit twisted. That's what happens with these too big to fail businesses. They don't see consequences, so they leave the wrong impression on the minds of those who worked around them.

[H2O Man]

42. But-but-but AOC danced

in college!!!!!!!!!

Recommended.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

47. I still don't get why people watch these clowns. It only encourages them. nt