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angrychair

(8,702 posts)
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:21 PM Feb 2019

Emergency can be more than a money grab

When a president declares an “national emergency” it gives them almost unlimited power to control the ebb and flow of the lives of all Americans.

From having the right to seize control of all American-flagged sea vessels to shutting down the Internet and controlling everything we see and hear on the Internet, trump now has a huge portfolio of powers to use at his discretion...even it unrelated to the emergency he is declaring.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/01/presidential-emergency-powers/576418/

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Emergency can be more than a money grab (Original Post) angrychair Feb 2019 OP
Elections? We don't need no stinkin' elections! Please present you papers to the men at your door. Runningdawg Feb 2019 #1
question: shanti Feb 2019 #2
According to law angrychair Feb 2019 #3
wow shanti Feb 2019 #4
Not really. A declaration of a national emergency has to cite a specific statutory authority onenote Feb 2019 #6
Yes and no angrychair Feb 2019 #8
I disagree onenote Feb 2019 #9
I hear you angrychair Feb 2019 #10
There are 32 emergency declarations currently active, not over 100 onenote Feb 2019 #5
I stand corrected angrychair Feb 2019 #7

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
3. According to law
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:43 PM
Feb 2019

It should be reviewed by congress after 6 months and can be canceled after 12 months or just renewed without action.
No one (meaning congress) has made the effort to review or cancel any emergency power declaration since the National Emergency Act was made law in 1976.

There are over 100 emergency declarations on the books right now.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
6. Not really. A declaration of a national emergency has to cite a specific statutory authority
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:06 PM
Feb 2019

previously enacted by Congress that defines what the President can do in case of a national emergency. For example, Trump is citing to a provision in the Defense appropriations legislation that gives him authority to redirect DoD funding to military construction projects.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
8. Yes and no
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:13 PM
Feb 2019

The declaration has to be specific but nothing on paper actually limits them (a president) to only a specific set of powers under the national emergency act.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
9. I disagree
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:21 PM
Feb 2019

This is the relevant provision that is understood as limiting the president to exercising statutory powers defined specifically in reference to a declaration under the NEA. Indeed, Congress' purpose in enacting the NEA was actually to limit the president from having the sort of unfettered authority to take whatever action they want by declaring an emergency. None of the emergencies declared since 1976 have deviated from this requirement and the fastest way to get an action taken under the NEA invalidated would be to disregard this requirement.

SEC. 301. When the President declares a national emergency, no 50 USC 1631.
powers or authorities made available by statute for use in the event of
an emergency shall be exercised unless and until the President specifies
the provisions of law under which he proposes that he, or other officers
will act. Such specification may be made either in the declaration of a
national emergency, or by one or more contemporaneous or subsequent
Executive orders published in the Federal Register and transmitted to
the Congress.

angrychair

(8,702 posts)
10. I hear you
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 05:34 PM
Feb 2019

But in the Atlantic article in my OP it clearly states there is nothing to actually stop a president from using any of the existing laws at their disposal.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
5. There are 32 emergency declarations currently active, not over 100
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 03:04 PM
Feb 2019

I think you may have confused the number of statutory provisions that can be invoked in connection with a declaration of a national emergency (around 120) with the number of current national emergencies (1 declared by Carter, 6 by Clinton, 10 by Bush, 11 by Obama and 4 by Trump).

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