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Freddie

(9,267 posts)
1. Not everyone has health care - national emergency!
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

Can’t live on minimum wage- national emergency!
They don’t know what a Pandora’s box they opened when we get back in power.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
2. That's exactly the point Nancy Pelosi was trying to make yesterday -
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:29 PM
Feb 2019

telling the GOPers to be careful what they wish for, because if a president can declare an emergency every time he doesn't get what he wants from Congress, someday a Dem president is going to declare an emergency about gun violence or climate change or health care.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. I was going to say a national emergency for guns, but not quite as tough
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:30 PM
Feb 2019

1) Institute a gun buy back program with generous money for assault rifles and anything that can easily be converted to one
2) Unshackle the CDC and allow them to study gun violence
3) Ban high capacity magazines
4) Mandatory strict background checks with outright bans for domestic abuse - 10 year ban for one incident, lifetime ban for more than one incident


TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
4. Nah...that's a constitutional right. But it could definitely have a good use in...
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:32 PM
Feb 2019

...making major steps forward in terms of climate change and healthcare.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
8. Bullets aren't a constitutional right
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:40 PM
Feb 2019

Sooo, I guess they could be declared a "national emergency" and banned.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
5. Genie is out of the bottle now
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:33 PM
Feb 2019

If you don't get your way as president, just declare it a national emergency and do it anyway.

Polybius

(15,437 posts)
6. Guns are constitutionally protected though, according to Heller vs. DC at least
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:33 PM
Feb 2019

A better example would be "The next Dem prez should declare plastic bags, cups, and straws a national emergency and ban them. That might not be a bad idea actually.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
7. Because it can't be done.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:40 PM
Feb 2019

Declaring a national emergency doesn't give the President magical powers. All emergency powers that can be utilized is very specific. Confiscating guns isn't one of them.

What trump has done is set precedent to declare an emergency over anything. That's it. He is still stuck within the framework of the National Emergencies Act. And within that framework are about 135 specific statutes that he can use. The overwhelming majority of which are useless except for very specific circumstances as many of the emergency powers are geared towards responding to an imminent war or sudden attack.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. Gun violence, climate change, systemic racism...those actually *are* emergencies.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 01:55 PM
Feb 2019

But Dems aren't inclined to violate norms, and Republicans know it. So, they get to go on being unethical and downright evil. Why? Because they can.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
12. Using this power to (try to) address Gunz would be a waste.
Fri Feb 15, 2019, 02:00 PM
Feb 2019

Dems would be thrown out of office very quickly if they tried that.

Oh, I support improved gun safety legislation, including things that most fierce proponents of RKBA would probably not like at all.

But I am speaking of the electoral reality. There's a lot of people in both parties who don't want too much gun regulation, and feel VERY strongly about it. It is something that is near and dear to them.

Some well-crafted initiatives to deal with climate change or homelessness would have a much better chance of being seen positively by the electorate. It could be done in a way that even if a person wasn't particularly supportive, it wouldn't be right in their face (or gun cabinet) in the same way as gun regulation, so they'd be more likely to overlook it at election time.

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