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Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:27 AM Aug 2012

They're Organized, They're Well-Funded, They Plan To Cheat, And They're Worried

The Republicans are well-organized this years. They have literally billions of dollars in their war chests. They plan to disenfranchise millions of minority and elderly voters--and they're worried that they might lose after all.

There is an interesting article on MSNBC stating that Republicans are beginning to discover that their name-brand is damaged again. This time, public dislike isn't centered around one George Dubya' What's-his-name, it's centered around the entire Republican Party. Voters are finally beginning to take note of Republican political positions and also what a Romney--Ryan/Rand economic agenda would be.

Todd Akin's comment concerning rape has not only begun to get public attention, but some of the electorate is beginning to see if THEIR Republican political candidates hold similar views--or have been voting the same way. They're also beginning to wonder about what Randian plans for Social Security and medicare would do to them and their loved ones.

I don't deny this is a close election, and that it's all too likely that we'll see Republican pols elected we fought hard to defeat this year. There is no excuse for giving up. There is NO excuse for sitting out this election. There is no excuse for not voting--even in certain-loss races, a vote against a Republican is a vote of protest that would be ignored if we opt out and cop out.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/22/13416266-gop-brand-suffers-heading-into-election-season?lite

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They're Organized, They're Well-Funded, They Plan To Cheat, And They're Worried (Original Post) Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 OP
YES! No excuse! aquart Aug 2012 #1
Every day, in every district and state, Dem candidates MUST inescapably connect Surya Gayatri Aug 2012 #2
I'd say it's partly because "rape" most aptly describes their model of a "free market." TahitiNut Aug 2012 #3
I think you have something there. RC Aug 2012 #12
They perpetuate abuse on all levels Skraxx Aug 2012 #23
Actually, the GOP is very well-practiced at the CFR Trifecta: TahitiNut Aug 2012 #28
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2012 #24
That's what happens when you're selling shit on a stick BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #4
Be strong of heart! "Yes we can!" ... and did. ... and will again. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #5
If (and that's a big "if") they manage to pull off another 2000-style coup deutsey Aug 2012 #6
The money they have but 'well organized'? Hardly. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #7
+1 mac56 Aug 2012 #13
Yer Bright. So I have a question (or few).... The Doctor. Aug 2012 #8
A Few Answers Based On My Opinions Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #17
They will fling every scrap of Occult Republican Degenerate Crapola they can between now and Nov. 3 Berlum Aug 2012 #9
This is probably not very useful. But maybe worth keeping an eye on... Ghost Dog Aug 2012 #10
The press hid this? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #22
If we employ a 50 State strategy, we could have a decent chance to win the House. Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #11
Voter registration and IDs are key to winning the House, Senate, and Presidency Coyotl Aug 2012 #14
I'd love to rec this post, but first, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #15
OK, Here's A Couple Of Lines Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #19
You got it. Thank you. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #25
A rec!?!? I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon eridani Aug 2012 #30
The flailing arms & screams of the dying "good ol' boys"! hue Aug 2012 #16
I got my first call from a phone bank ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #18
Hey GOP -- first go fuck yourselves, then eat shit and die Blue Owl Aug 2012 #20
Tell me about it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #21
This election just keeps getting better and better... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #26
These profs are predicting a Romney win BrainGlutton23 Aug 2012 #27
No, Let's Not Get Complacent Vogon_Glory Aug 2012 #29
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
2. Every day, in every district and state, Dem candidates MUST inescapably connect
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:56 AM
Aug 2012

congressional Repukes, including Ryan, to Akin's ignorance and insanity.

Candidates and surrogates must constantly pound home the truth that Akin's statements were no "misspoken" mistake, but are rather the core values that drive today's GOP.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
3. I'd say it's partly because "rape" most aptly describes their model of a "free market."
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:02 AM
Aug 2012

There's just far too much congruence between the predations of vulture capitalists (e.g. the Kochs) and the wide array of rapists and sexual predators. Given that ethical congruence, their sympathy (or feelings of kinship) for the victims of such predations are seriously atrophied.

(Just compare the "buyer beware" mentality to the blame-the-victim knee-jerk reaction.)

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
12. I think you have something there.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:03 AM
Aug 2012

It absolutely fits. They blame the victim for their plight. Never take blame of their actions for themselves.

Skraxx

(2,977 posts)
23. They perpetuate abuse on all levels
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:12 PM
Aug 2012

As they themselves were abused.

Republican is a mental disorder and finds its roots in abusive childhoods.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
6. If (and that's a big "if") they manage to pull off another 2000-style coup
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:37 AM
Aug 2012

What are we going to do about it this time?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. The money they have but 'well organized'? Hardly.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:45 AM
Aug 2012

This quoted piece is contradictory. They are super organized but also just now noticing the damage their brand has undergone? Mutually exclusive. Organized people would not have to see their brand on fire to notice the damage. Seriously, everyone in the election has piles of money, a higher pile is not all that much of an advantage. It just isn't. Look to product marketing and learn facts rather than repeat things you've heard.

 

The Doctor.

(17,266 posts)
8. Yer Bright. So I have a question (or few)....
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:52 AM
Aug 2012

With all that $$$ and all that power, how is it that 'they' let Rmoney™ get the nom?

Why did the silver spike of Ryan get thrust through the Rmoney™ campaign?

Why is the media finally seeming to do the job of reporting the negatives of a Republican candidate.... including FOX 'News'?

Why was the Republican Convention scheduled in Tampa at the beginning of Hurricane season?

And most importantly: Who is the best possible woman to run as the Republican Candidate for President in 2016?

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
17. A Few Answers Based On My Opinions
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:21 AM
Aug 2012

With all that $$ and that power... (A) Money only goes so far. My guess is that R-money got so far because he was able to get the most primary voters in Republican primaries. Down here in Texas, the establishment Republican politician gunning for the nomination for a vacant US Senate seat had a large war-chest yet got thumped by a better-organized, energetic Tea Party candidate.

Ryan Silver Spike..I think the R's need lots of money, the Kochs wanted Ryan on the ticket for this election or further down the road, and Mittsie's people decided that Ryan was a pretty face who looked like an All-American whitebread wonk (He doesn't have to BE a wonk, he only needs to play one on TV and in front of carefully pre-screened audiences).

I think the media was FORCED to pay attention by activism of some Democratic and progressive campaigners and by Todd Akin shooting off his mouth. The uproar forced the lazy @ss-ed corporate media to not only note that Akin was connected to Ryan, but that there were interesting threads running from Akin and Ryan from abortion to Medicare to Social Security. But the news-critters will get back to gushing about some Kardashian sister's love affairs shortly.

I suspect that the GOPsters picked Tampa in part because of successful lobbying by Florida politicos and because they didn't think that their convention might end up as a possible bull's eye for a hurricane. IMO climate change denialists don't pay much attention as to how extreme weather might affect them PERSONALLY. (They might get to find out).

I don't know which woman the Republicans could pick and run in 2016. They don't have as many options as we Democrats do and even if they pick a Palinesque candidate, she'd still have to face the general electorate in November, 2016. Do you think that the 2016 electorate could stand for a younger Jan Brewer or a Sarah Palin clone?

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
9. They will fling every scrap of Occult Republican Degenerate Crapola they can between now and Nov. 3
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:52 AM
Aug 2012

The have been gearing up to go ugly -- Romney's signature strategy -- and they going to get Way Uglier.

Republican SuckerPuppets will be sopping it up.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
10. This is probably not very useful. But maybe worth keeping an eye on...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:57 AM
Aug 2012

... General Dempsey, Chairman of America’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the man who flew to Tel Aviv and informed Netanyahu that America wanted no part of his scheming against Iran was the subject of an assassination attempt in Afghanistan.

This wasn’t an act of terrorism or Taliban militants. It was a “mob hit” against someone who failed to kiss the feet of Netanyahu...

... To some Americans, the attack appears to be a reprisal against Dempsey who, out of coincidence, cited the motive in his own appraisal of Israel’s judgment, their “constant suspicion.”

News agencies buried the failed attack, knowing Dempsey is hated by Netanyahu and respected by the Taliban as both “truthful and fair.”...

... Only two weeks ago, Presidential hopeful, Mitt Romney, returned from a trip overseas, coming back to America with $60 million dollars collected in Israel and Britain while accompanied by Casino boss Sheldon Adelson whose Las Vegas and China organizations have long been reputed to be the center of worldwide organized crime...

/... http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/22/257558/iran-war-and-the-general-who-said-no/#.UDYLnKPRaeh

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
11. If we employ a 50 State strategy, we could have a decent chance to win the House.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 08:57 AM
Aug 2012

Howard Dean proved this could work. Let's contrast Obama and Bush in a commercial, and then show that Romney/Ryan have the same policies as Bush. Hammer that up their asses! Ask the question, "Do you want to fall off of the cliff again?" we have got to get both houses of Congress and keep the White House! If we don't, gridlock for 4 more!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
14. Voter registration and IDs are key to winning the House, Senate, and Presidency
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 09:40 AM
Aug 2012

especially in states where the Republicans have disenfranchising so many existing voters

Registering and turning out new, young voters in large numbers will deliver a landslide.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
19. OK, Here's A Couple Of Lines
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 11:01 AM
Aug 2012

From R-money's Amurrica

See the clouds are parting
The sun begins to shine
Obama’s gone, Romney’s in
What’s mine is mine and
what’s thine will be mine, mine, mine

See old granny begging
In front of the liquor store
She had Social Security til 2013
She ain’t got it anymore

See the homeless family
Sheltered in the cardboard box
The Middle Class has lost them
But Dad thinks R-money rocks

See Suzy in a gee-string
Grinding on a tiny stage
She’ll afford next year’s tuition
Come, children, turn the page.


Lester has a serious condition
Confirmed by a clinic physician
He’s feeling rather ill
His insurer gives him some counsel
Take a fatal hemlock pill

See Bill’s family in a house
A box for some large appliance
They still hold for the same old song
A song of self-reliance.

See Anita queuing at the local pantry
Empty stomach growling loud
Hunger has made her humble
Her job prospects are scanty.

--
I have to stop here. Good poetry takes time.

Gimme a rec!

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
25. You got it. Thank you.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:02 PM
Aug 2012

But I was led to believe that Vogon poetry should leave me begging for death. I actually quite liked that one.

hue

(4,949 posts)
16. The flailing arms & screams of the dying "good ol' boys"!
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:10 AM
Aug 2012

Rich, unorganized, scientific neanderthals and used to getting their own way (spoiled brats)!!

We must never give up! We must work/vote/contribute against them!!

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
18. I got my first call from a phone bank ...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 10:56 AM
Aug 2012

Out here in California, regarding prop 32.

The labor folks having been somewhat on the bottom of the pile of really good things done by the present administration, will still work the phone bank, and do a big part of getting out the vote. I have worked as union member, and a retired union member, and will continue on this year.

Sometimes money don't work quite as well as people doing the task.
 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
26. This election just keeps getting better and better...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:20 PM
Aug 2012
#1
The republicans seem to be really into the kinky thrill of getting publicly pantsed

#2
The Ryan Plan. Why not just admit that they're out to rip off whoever they can?

#3
The Rommney/Bain files (Makes the X-files look like kindergarten art)

#4
There's a lot of unrest out there...
 

BrainGlutton23

(37 posts)
27. These profs are predicting a Romney win
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 06:31 PM
Aug 2012

Two profs from the University of Colorado are using an electoral-vote model (which they say has correctly predicted the outcome of every presidential election since 1980) that predicts Romney winning.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/university-of-colorado-pr_n_1822933.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Probably wrong, but let's not get complacent!

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
29. No, Let's Not Get Complacent
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 12:02 AM
Aug 2012

No, let's NOT get complacent.

But an article like the one I linked in my original post is a tonic for my jitters this election. I perform better when I'm hopeful. I need hope; otherwise I risk giving into despair, and none of us can afford that.

I hope the two learned perfessers will be forced to make some revisions to their model after this November should Divine Providence smile on our republic and Barack Obama is re-elected as President.

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