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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKrugman: Saving Serious Ryan
Saving Serious Ryan
There has, of course, been some pushback against my column pointing out that the Very Serious Paul Ryan is not, in fact, serious at all. Some of this pushback takes the form of assertions that he must be serious, because the Congressional Budget Office scored his plan and found that it led to lower debt.
People who say things like that evidently havent read any of the actual CBO analyses; the most informative is the first one (pdf). And in particular, they havent grasped how Ryan has gamed the system.
As I pointed out a few days ago, CBO did not score the policy provisions in the Ryan plan; there wasnt remotely enough detail for a comprehensive assessment, and they didnt do a partial of what was specified. Instead, they laid out the implications of revenue and spending paths that were just assumed per Ryans instructions without expressing any view about whether these paths were plausible.
Indeed, I think I detect a bit of discreet snark in what the CBO report actually did say. On revenue, it declared:
On spending, they declared:
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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/saving-serious-ryan/
There has, of course, been some pushback against my column pointing out that the Very Serious Paul Ryan is not, in fact, serious at all. Some of this pushback takes the form of assertions that he must be serious, because the Congressional Budget Office scored his plan and found that it led to lower debt.
People who say things like that evidently havent read any of the actual CBO analyses; the most informative is the first one (pdf). And in particular, they havent grasped how Ryan has gamed the system.
As I pointed out a few days ago, CBO did not score the policy provisions in the Ryan plan; there wasnt remotely enough detail for a comprehensive assessment, and they didnt do a partial of what was specified. Instead, they laid out the implications of revenue and spending paths that were just assumed per Ryans instructions without expressing any view about whether these paths were plausible.
Indeed, I think I detect a bit of discreet snark in what the CBO report actually did say. On revenue, it declared:
The path for revenues as a percentage of GDP was specified by Chairman Ryans staff. The path rises steadily from about 15 percent of GDP in 2010 to 19 percent in 2028 and remains at that level thereafter. There were no specifications of particular revenue provisions that would generate that path. (my italics)
On spending, they declared:
That combination of other mandatory and discretionary spending was specified to decline from 12 percent of GDP in 2010 to about 6 percent in 2021 and then move in line with the GDP price deflator beginning in 2022, which would generate a further decline relative to GDP. No proposals were specified that would generate that path. (my italics, again)
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http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/saving-serious-ryan/
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Krugman: Saving Serious Ryan (Original Post)
ProSense
Aug 2012
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burnsei sensei
(1,820 posts)1. Serious?
As I pointed out a few days ago, CBO did not score the policy provisions in the Ryan plan; there wasnt remotely enough detail for a comprehensive assessment, and they didnt do a partial of what was specified. Instead, they laid out the implications of revenue and spending paths that were just assumed per Ryans instructions without expressing any view about whether these paths were plausible.
There's nothing serious here.
Ryan gave insufficient information for a detailed and honest assessment of his proposals.
I don't want to hear about the "implications of revenue."
I know that if you cut taxes and spending, you get the an amplified version of the result you'd get if you just cut taxes--
1. reduced revenues,
2. higher deficits, and
3. more hardship for the majority who can least afford it.
The majority should rule in this country.
The comments Krugman is getting over there are challenging his ideas mightily.
I hope he responds.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)2. Cute....real cute Ryan...
The CBO didn't actually score it because he didn't provide enough detail...
funny thing: Rmoney's budget plan was deliberately written so it, too, could not be scored by CBO! What a coincidence!
benld74
(9,904 posts)3. The O-N-L-Y reason the GOP consider Ryan to be their Budget Policy wonk is
he put it into PRINT for all the world to see.
YET, like a GOP member he did not provide enough details for the CBO to score in the same manner it scores everything. Remember, GOP doesn't like the CBO, and have been trying to take its funding away.