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NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:27 PM Aug 2012

Let's not play like Republicans re the possible strike of Isaac in Tampa...

as tempting as it may be. God or whoever doesn't punish groups of people of course (what did the many tragic situations in LA do to deserve Katrina)? My mom and brother live in Tampa - but that isn't why I am posting this.

How I am handling it....the Repub convention is going to be a horror show, no matter if it happens or not. Yes, I am a bleeding heart, but I worry about just the one person who could lose everything they have, or get harmed or killed - having lived through Hurricane Fran here in NC in 1996, these storms are nothing to take lightly.

And I don't mean it for this to come across as preachy or anything - it is just that I think we on the left are more empathetic and can play things better and cleaner than those on the right.

OK - that's it......back to our regularly scheduled discussions!

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Let's not play like Republicans re the possible strike of Isaac in Tampa... (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 OP
Oh c'mon we all know it's flamingdem Aug 2012 #1
I think, at least personally, that this is a joke nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #2
It hit Raleigh as a Cat 1. The damage was breathtaking. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #3
Pat Robertson "prayed" Gloria into me... JHB Aug 2012 #7
The damage also depends on high tide nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #16
Why is it good news that the real damge is being done in DR, Haiti, and Ciuba? HERVEPA Aug 2012 #11
But I am curious - If these storms his places line NO because of their sins what does it say liberal N proud Aug 2012 #4
if only the hurricane was named Ishmael hfojvt Aug 2012 #5
DUZY!! Fawke Em Aug 2012 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #6
Meh! Knowing how accurate weather forecasts are these days... DemzRock Aug 2012 #8
Actually they have become MORE accurate over the years nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #17
Robertson mocking death with Katrina was not a joke to Pat Robertson Lint Head Aug 2012 #9
Ok, you owe me a keyboard! nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #18
K Lint Head Aug 2012 #21
Robertson also claimed (or at least agreed) that 9/11 was Blue Meany Aug 2012 #31
I think that's more like a 40 instead of a ten.... WCGreen Aug 2012 #36
Eh... FightForMichigan Aug 2012 #10
Are we allowed gaspee Aug 2012 #13
look, they were sincere when they said New Orleans and East Coast Liberals deserved hurricanes librechik Aug 2012 #14
If one finds themselevs saying... 99Forever Aug 2012 #15
I want us to be able to hold our heads up high. And not stoop to their tactics. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #20
And I can hold my head up just fine.. 99Forever Aug 2012 #27
That Fran, she was a BITCH, wasn't she?! ncgrits Aug 2012 #19
What does God have to do with hurricanes or Tampa? NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #22
Nope - that's not my point. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #23
Then please accept my heartfelt apology for misunderstanding your post NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #24
for you, anything! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #25
Thanks for being so nice with me NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #34
Thank you. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #26
repugs would destroy everyone if they could. we only win when we fight back samsingh Aug 2012 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author samsingh Aug 2012 #29
Tampa can handle a minor hurricane without major problems. Not Me Aug 2012 #30
i just hope it's a legitimate , veganlush Aug 2012 #32
Secretion Team Delta is on it SoCalDem Aug 2012 #33
Funny, I've been skipping around the house for days in utter glee about it Chemisse Aug 2012 #35
Yes, I was doing it too - then it kinda came to me.....hence the OP. NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #37
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. I think, at least personally, that this is a joke
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:34 PM
Aug 2012

on Pat Roberts and his penchant for that idiotic series of comments.

Good nooz. this is expected to hit as a CAT 1. The real damage is being done in the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Cuba... by the time it reaches Florida it might even be a TC...

THis is why everybody is making the jokes, not because it will affect real people. Now if we can get it to do a targeted strike ONLY on the convention... then you will make a believer out of me.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
7. Pat Robertson "prayed" Gloria into me...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:48 PM
Aug 2012

When Gloria went up the east coast he claimed God heard his prayers and spared Virginia Beach. Now, hurricaines have been hitting, missing, and near-missing the east coast since the Atlantic was wide enough to fuel storms that big (i.e., millions of years), so it was just his usual oral backwind, but the eye did hit where I lived.

Lots of trees down, but luckily for us it hit at low tide, which helped limit flooding.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. The damage also depends on high tide
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:28 PM
Aug 2012

low tide and a few other factors.

But this was going to happen, jokes were written all over it.

As I said in another thread (I added to only hit the convention), you will make a real believer if Isaac only hits the convention and adds some fire and brimstone to the mix. Then trust me, I will go to Temple every Friday and even keep a kosher kitchen. (Which is a real drag)

I am very aware of the damage it could do. So, as a no joke, let's hope it loses most of it's energy before it hits Florida and when it does hit, low tide. That will reduce the damage from water by a LOT. (Of course Pat will claim God heard his prayer, but oh well)

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
4. But I am curious - If these storms his places line NO because of their sins what does it say
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:41 PM
Aug 2012

when the storm hits the location and during the republican convention?

It is important to understand how they rationalize these things.

Granted, I do NOT want the storm to hit Tampa at all, but that is a personal thing.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
9. Robertson mocking death with Katrina was not a joke to Pat Robertson
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:53 PM
Aug 2012

and destruction is not a joke, but, the irony is spectacular. I don't think people here think God is punishing anyone. You can't stop a hurricane, tornado, volcano or asteroid. The only thing we as vulnerable human beings is to treat it with humor.
In the case of a hurricane when one is coming I'm going to get the hell out of the way unless the roads aren't blocked because the infrastructure of the roads and bridges have collapsed due to the lack of funding because some right wing politician doesn't want to raise taxes on the rich.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
31. Robertson also claimed (or at least agreed) that 9/11 was
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:12 PM
Aug 2012

God's punishment for the tolerance of gays in NY. My reactions was: OK, so your position is identical to bin Laden's: this is God's will.

FightForMichigan

(232 posts)
10. Eh...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 12:55 PM
Aug 2012

Nature doesn't care one way or another what we wish and what's going to happen is going to happen regardless.

My girlfriend's mother lives in Tampa, says she's stocked up and hoping Issac rains on their parade.

Me? I hope the storm comes. I don't want anyone harmed or homes damaged. I just want an evacuation of the area and their planned photo ops and free air time busted up.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
14. look, they were sincere when they said New Orleans and East Coast Liberals deserved hurricanes
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:02 PM
Aug 2012

We are merely mocking their ridiculousness. We aren't stooping to their level, because ONLY MORONS would believe God sends storms to smite Republican enemies, and never them. In fact, only MORONS believe God sends storms, and not, you know, science.

So I appreciate your caution, but I think it's unwarranted. I could just go back to calling them morons instead of just mocking their beliefs. It's more fun (IMO) to engage.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
15. If one finds themselevs saying...
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:08 PM
Aug 2012
..."And I don't mean it for this to come across as preachy or anything..." , it might be the best place to put a period.

Just a thought from someone who is tired of people telling everyone else what is and isn't "proper to say" as an economic and social WAR is being waged against us. You want to coddle the enemy, fine. I want them beat so far down they never get back up.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
20. I want us to be able to hold our heads up high. And not stoop to their tactics.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:42 PM
Aug 2012

But I respect your comment and your view.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
27. And I can hold my head up just fine..
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:05 PM
Aug 2012

... by not letting the bastards use me as a doormat.

This is a WAR for the future of our kids and grandkids, and as such, I'll use any and every means at my disposal to achieve victory. We are living with the results of WEAK politicians kowtowing to those whose entire intent is our ultimate demise.

If you HONESTLY respect my view, then STOP telling me (and others who are also fed up with the repeated surrendering of our Democratic Values) how to conduct ourselves on the field of battle. If you don't want to fight with all you have, FINE, then get the hell out of the way and watch how it's done.

ncgrits

(916 posts)
19. That Fran, she was a BITCH, wasn't she?!
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:34 PM
Aug 2012

I wouldn't wish that on anybody, not even a Republican! (Well, maybe a little bit on a Republican!)



Hey North Raleigh!
Hillsborough checking in!

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
22. What does God have to do with hurricanes or Tampa?
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

Do you believe there is some relationship between them?

Don

NRaleighLiberal

(60,015 posts)
23. Nope - that's not my point.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:14 PM
Aug 2012

It is a reaction to those posts - not only here, Twitter, elsewhere - that are (I suspect snarkily in some cases) making that connection.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
24. Then please accept my heartfelt apology for misunderstanding your post
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:57 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 23, 2012, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
34. Thanks for being so nice with me
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 04:30 PM
Aug 2012

I can spot a class act. And you are definitely as classy as they come.



Don

Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
30. Tampa can handle a minor hurricane without major problems.
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:12 PM
Aug 2012

It is likely to be very windy for 6-8 hours and dump a ton of rain, but don't expect it to result in loss of life of major property damage.

That said, I delight in the fact that the weather is going to 'rain on their parade.' It will turn half the conversation not on the convention itself but the weather outside. And that will be next week's contribution to keeping the republicans from focusing on any message they may want to get out.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
35. Funny, I've been skipping around the house for days in utter glee about it
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:43 AM
Aug 2012

And just yesterday I started to think that maybe it was pretty unkind of me. They are human too (amazingly) and must be worried sick over what this storm will do to the convention. It seems wrong for me to rejoice over their misery.

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