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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFox poll has Romney up by one point among likely voters
Among registered voters Obama is up by 2 points.
The last poll had Obama 49, Romney 40 among registered voters.
And tied, 48-48, among "extremely interested voters"
This is what caught my eye from the current report:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/23/fox-news-poll-race-for-white-house-tightens/#ixzz24PbtDUBn
"If the presidential election were held today, how would you vote if the candidates were":
Independents: Obama 32, Romney 42
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/08/23/fox-news-poll-race-for-white-house-tightens/
From the last poll:
"If the presidential election were held today, how would you vote if the candidates were":
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-presidential-race/
So independents flipped to Romney?
Another thing, what is with these poll reports switching between likely voters and registered voters?
Romney made gains among registered voters, but Obama still leads by 2 points.
The independent numbers are weird.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)21-point swing among independents.
DemocratsForProgress
(545 posts)totally unbelievable horseshit, I agree.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)to the "tightening of the polls". I just looked at TPM, and at Real Clear Politics - and whether it is a delayed Ryan bounce or just the fact that overwhelming lies does eventually embed among the masses....The trajectory just feels off - and because of the stellar combo of Citizens United (unlimited $$) and idiocy/gullibility of so much of the voting public to the way that race and sex cards are being played, a big part of me wants to unplug from it all/ignore it until the conventions are done and debates are under way.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"I just looked at TPM, and at Real Clear Politics - and whether it is a delayed Ryan bounce "
...are factoring in every poll, regardless of how absurd.
For example, the poll averages for Florida include the poll that showed Romney 55 Obama 40 because the poll sample was 90 percent 65 and older. That's 68 percent more than the 2008 election.
McCain won seniors by 8 points in Florida.
CabCurious
(954 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)Okay, you didn't ask a question. Doesn't matter.
A lot of the 'Independents' where I live (blood red Arizona) have switched from R to I only because... (my best Palin voice) Well, gosh dern it. That GOPEEEE is just not doin' what we told 'em to do so wur just gonna hafta show them we mean business by switching to Independent!
That'll teach 'em!
That could explain some of the funky numbers.
Seriously, I know a lot of 'Independents' that are just plain stubborn. They vote either Republican or Democrat straight ticket, but to actually choose a side would somehow rob them of their dignity or some shit. HOWEVER, I do know some real Indies that could argue either side with some damned good logic. Sadly, one of those 'real' Indies has recently gone on an anti-Republican rant and has declared herself a left-leaning Indie Democrat. Yes, I laughed. She's a feisty little handful, smarter than average and incredibly stubborn.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"A lot of the 'Independents' where I live (blood red Arizona) have switched from R to I only because... (my best Palin voice) Well, gosh dern it. That GOPEEEE is just not doin' what we told 'em to do so wur just gonna hafta show them we mean business by switching to Independent! "
...switching or which side they're on politically, it's about a 21-point swing from one poll to the next. That's ridiculous.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...that Faux would have skewed their last poll in a pro-Obama direction, so that they could trumpet the "momentum shift to Rimney" just before or after the convention.
Nice to see they're so predictable...
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I bet they don't even call anyone. They just make up chit.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)I'm seeing links to breitbart, fox. I'm seeing people having fucking meltdowns over some college professors predictions, seeing people pushing Gary Johnson, etc.
It's as if when we get closer, and further ahead, they just can't help themselves. I've been there, done that, with too many elections here. I mean really. a FOX NEWS poll?? wtf?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)" I think I'm leaving DU until December. It's gone batshit crazy this week."
...and posting something isn't the same as going "batshit crazy."
"I'm seeing people having fucking meltdowns over some college professors predictions, seeing people pushing Gary Johnson, etc."
Maybe you're reading too much into a few concerned posters.
mick063
(2,424 posts)No one has posted the results of the "National Enquirer" poll yet.
You can't make an informed opinion without all of the data.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)that the poll trackers actually use Fox polls. So there is that.
Nothing anyone can do about the consensus among them to do so, but one can point out weird data.
Marr
(20,317 posts)who spend half their time pushing voter disenfranchisement schemes?
spanone
(135,844 posts)what a waste of broadcast space
andym
(5,443 posts)In the end, the economic numbers in August, September and October will have greater impact than probably anything else.