This is PRECISELY why Biden actually scares the GOP

[CabCurious]

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1. He's white

2. He's older


3. He's genuine











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[xmas74]

1. He cracks me up.

I might in the minority here on DU but there are definitely times I prefer Biden. I like Obama but there's something about watching Biden giving 'em all hell that makes me want to giggle. He calls them on their crap and they don't like it.

[Jamaal510]

16. With a President Biden,

I doubt the GOPhers would've participated in as much obstructionism as they have been with Obama, and constantly calling him a socialist/Kenyan/marxist/whatever -ist.

[xmas74]

47. He would have called them out,

possibly in weekly press conferences. I don't think he'd have any problems naming names and telling exactly why he was naming them.

I would think that there is a healthy amount of fear of Biden from his opponents.

[gateley]

56. Agree -- they knew Joe too well.

[CabCurious]

77. Culture Wars, Nativism & Nationalism were all on the rise before Obama

The Culture Wars existed way before Obama came around. And Republican Nationalism was, too.

The only thing that would be different would be the EMOTIONS at play within the base. We'd see the same nationalist ploys, tho.

[xtraxritical]

104. Your flashy thingy hurts my eyes and is an annoying distraction.

[Jamaal510]

106. My bad. I'll change it.

[CabCurious]

107. lmao

[hifiguy]

30. Joe calls bullshit when he sees it.

I think he's great!

[xmas74]

48. He has a bit of Truman in him at times.

Maybe that's why I really enjoy watching him in action.

[exboyfil]

80. I am thinking he fills the role of

Truman's VP Alben Barkley who was key in Truman winning in 1948. I thought that it would have been better to move Biden to State and replace him with a more viable candidate for 2016 Presidental campaign, but one election at a time. I think Biden contrasts well with Ryan. Obama could do a whole lot worse.

[DinahMoeHum]

84. He's our modern-day "Happy Warrior"

. . .originally attributed to Hubert Humphrey I believe.

Someone who genuinely loves the give-and-take of politics, campaigning, and legislating; and isn't afraid to mix it up in a brawl against the other side.

[Proud Public Servant]

112. Actually

Originally it was the nickname of Al Smith, Dem (and first Catholic) candidate for President in 1928.

[DinahMoeHum]

117. Thanks for clarifying.

[Proud Public Servant]

120. Just doing my job as a Dem and a history buff LOL

[kenfrequed]

113. Yeah

This is what I think as well.


He is able to throw populist curveballs and speak boldly and he frequently runs off script. This is most of the reason they throw a lot of heat rounds at him and try to manufacture gaffes around him. It is fear.

[Plucketeer]

119. You're right about that. My ONLY complaint about Joe is

we don't see and hear more of him.

[jillan]

46. The day I started becoming a fan of his was in 2004. I was watching John Kerry on CSpan give

a speech at a rally.

After the rally, the cameras went to this white tent where there were all these reporters with cameras and mics.
In the middle was this man that was screaming at the top of his lungs about how the swiftboaters were full of lies and how could people in the media give them the time of day!

I stopped what I was doing and watched this white haired man give the press a piece of his mind & I was actually cheering him on in my living room. Who is that? I asked myself - then CSpan does what it always does and shows you the name of the person speaking.... Joe Biden D-DE. I have been his biggest fan ever since. Love him!

And I agree.... I love Obama but Joe has got the fire in his belly.

[xmas74]

49. It's the fire in the belly that I love.

Obama is careful and weighs his words. Biden says what he thinks and what he means.

I guess I'm one of those blue collar workers that seem to warm up to Biden so well.

[PatSeg]

51. I saw him on Meet the Press

and after being deluged with political-speak, it was refreshing to hear someone sound genuine. Must have been in 2004 also.

[CreekDog]

62. I love that about him too...it's a bit of what Bill Clinton has

but subtract any interest in being someone's friend.

Joe doesn't say things to be liked. He likes to be liked, he's a politician, after all. But he doesn't say different than he thinks in order to be liked.

That's what makes him so refreshing, and in fact, likable.

[PatSeg]

82. Its truly a gift

You can't teach it and you can't fake it. People who think they don't like Joe Biden, never really listened to him talk for more than a minute or two.

The right can't stand him because they know his appeal. I'm quite sure they are often behind most of the "gaffe" hype in an attempt to make him appear inconsequential and harmless. They like to reinforce the "goofy old Uncle Joe" persona because they could never compete with the REAL Joe.

[CreekDog]

87. Republicans wanted us to pick Evan Bayh

The man who thinks we should feel guilty for having opinions and conviction -those things being "partisan".

[gateley]

53. Fire in his belly -- perfect!!

I never heard that story before, Jill -- I LOVE it!!

[stlsaxman]

66. Biden had the BEST campaign commercial ever in 2008... "GET UP!"

too bad it never went past Iowa...

[CabCurious]

90. Great commercial but...

Did it really have the music that loud? Felt like high school quality production. lol

[stlsaxman]

92. agreed... they did lower the volume at the end.

why didn't they lower the music for the first part...

[CabCurious]

93. It was iowa... doesn't really count :)

[jillan]

94. I loved that commercial - thanks for posting it... it brought me back

to a night when I was so hopeful that he would move out of Iowa.
Yes, that was before I realized who that Barack Obama guy was and why he had such a huge following.

I had seen Barack here in the Phoenix area the Nov before the primaries, and he was not impressive at all - hard to believe I know. But that's what took me so long to jump in and support him.

[gateley]

124. That still gives me chills. :-)

and Hi!!!!!!!

[CreekDog]

60. I agree with you but Obama *chose* Biden, and liked Biden *more* than the others

"Game Change" described this pretty thoroughly.

Whatever you see, whatever you value, Obama did too --perhaps even before you or I did.

[xmas74]

64. Exactly.

I'd love to have a long conservation with Obama and pick his brain but Biden's the guy I'd love to have a beer with discuss preseason football polls. I'd love to hear his response about USC right now. USC looking good and Akin being an ass while representing our state are two of the biggest hot topics at work. (The third-how bad Alabama is gunna beat the crap of Mizzou when they meet for the first time as SEC members this year.)

March Madness,otoh, goes back to Obama. His brackets aren't too bad.

[Greybnk48]

2. And as a woman, I love him to death!!

He took extraordinary care of his boys after that horrid car accident. He didn't go out and grab the first woman who came along. He picked someone he loved who fit in to his family. And he LOVED his mother.

Joe Biden is a treasure. BTW, I'm sick of him being mocked about gaffs. It's the same shit that was pulled with Gore about exaggerating--both Al Gore.

[avebury]

23. I totally agree with you. nt

[Jennicut]

57. And he started the Violence Against Women Act.

He gets bonus points from me for that. And he is just totally genuine.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

74. Well, you know what they say about gaffes...

In Washington, a gaffe is when a politician inadvertently tells the truth. Joe tells the truth a lot.

[Greybnk48]

91. LOL! True. n/t

[redqueen]

75. Well said. nt

[maddiemom]

85. Yes, Yes, and YES!

I couldn't agree more with every point you make.

[Heather MC]

3. what doesn't scare the GOP nowadays

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. Sadly ...

Their own crazy.

[RKP5637]

5. Hate doesn't scare the GOP, they just seem to love hatred. And they seem to have a bunch. n/t

[Heather MC]

26. Alot of times hate is born from fear

Racism Is an extreme form of fear so is Hate. They are so Afraid they are losing their minds. Actually they are the sane party they have always been but thanks to the internet they can't hide their true nature anymore

[RKP5637]

27. That, is an excellent point! n/t

[CabCurious]

29. Usually it is fear + ignorance

[Thinkingabout]

6. Bet he knows women can become pregnant by rape.

The repubs don't have an answer for him either.

[Herlong]

7. Have you seen this guy?

He is the man! That's totally the way I mean it.

[jillan]

8. He's blue collar. Not afraid to speak his mind. He knows his stuff - just wait until the debates

when the subject of Iran comes up. Biden is going to make war-monger Ryan look like a fool.

And - then there is that smile...
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[awoke_in_2003]

20. All excellent points...

which was why his was my number 2 pick in 08 (I fell for John Edwards' bs)

[PatrynXX]

40. Can't call him anti war either

his sons are in the war. X_X

So question is. Does one feel safer with Obama/Biden or 2 idiots that have no military experience on either side of their ticket.

[Mad_Dem_X]

73. I can't wait for the debates

He makes me proud to be from Delaware.

[Coyotl]

9. Nonetheless, expect a big surprise at the convention, with a new V-P candidate.

The R's really fear a woman on the 2012 Obama ticket and they know that they will lose HUGE everywhere if it happens.

[Wait Wut]

10. ?

Did you forget the thingy?

Joe isn't going anywhere.

[Ineeda]

11. Won't happen.

[radiclib]

13. At this point

does Obama need a woman on the ticket to win? Really?

[Coyotl]

36. No, he does not need a woman, and Obama/Biden can win handily

But, that does not mean that they are not planning for 2016-2024!!

[gollygee]

14. Everyone always thinks there'll be a huge surprise at the conventions

and there never are - at the Rep one or hte Dem one. The tickets are set at this point.

[rockingirl]

15. your crystal ball is broken

i think that you are very mistaken with your prediction!
it was good for a laugh though..

[nxylas]

83. I've heard this a lot from Republicans

Usually the same Republicans who assured us in 2010 that Hillary was going to lauch a primary challenge after the "shellacking".

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Ooooh! Yeah, thats exactly whats gonna happen!

[CabCurious]

19. How much are you willing to bet?

8 months ago, I would have accepted a candidate who would have been ready to run in 2016 (i.e. not Hillary).

At this point, it is not going to happen.

[Inuca]

70. Utter nonsense n/t

[Arkana]

76. Not gonna happen.

[kenfrequed]

114. uhm no.

I don't know rarely know what the game is of your prognosticating, but the last thing you really want to do is switch VP candidates at this point in the game. Why would you? Your enemy is a gaffe-omatic machine that is busily imploding. The only reason to take the attention off of that is just long enough to personally pour an extra gallon or two of gasoline on their self-immolation act.

[askyeshua]

12. He keeps it real!

Has the habit of saying exactly what he really means

[ailsagirl]

18. And he tells the truth!!

[Cha]

21. And, VP Biden has a genuinely amazing wife!...

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snip..

"First Lady Announces 125,000 Veterans and Military Spouses Hired Through Joining Forces"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/08/22/first-lady-announces-125000-veterans-and-military-spouses-hired-through-joining-forc

snip

"Jill Biden, wife of Vice President Joe Biden, is a mother and grandmother, a lifelong educator, a proud Blue Star mom, and an active member of her community. As Second Lady, Dr. Biden works to bring attention to the sacrifices made by military families, to highlight the importance of community colleges to America’s future, and to raise awareness around areas of particular importance to women, including breast cancer prevention, all while continuing to teach English full-time at a community college in nearby Virginia."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/jill-biden

Dr Jill Biden is featured!

ht The Obama Diary~

[applegrove]

22. He's a white male from a working class family.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

24. He's a bulldog who will tell them where the bull shit in the buckwheat

and rub their snotty little noses in it.

[Aerows]

25. 4. He's not scared of them

They thrive off of having people fear them. When people stop fearing them, they start running.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

28. I always love it when they say "He'll say something stupid"...

....which actually means he'll just tell the truth....the last thing a Rethug wants to hear.

[CabCurious]

31. Photos

[Bernardo de La Paz]

32. They are not scared of him. They think that Ryan is a wonk and will mop him up.

They are not scared of him. They think that Ryan is a wonk and will mop him up. However, it is becoming clearer that Ryan can quote numbers and talk a line but doesn't really understand how the budget really works and all the implications of his drastic cuts and tax giveaways to the rich.

They call Biden "Plugs" and think he is a goofball who mis-speaks all the time. They are drooling at the prospect of the debate.

I think they will be surprised.

[CabCurious]

33. I think only a small portion of Republicans actually trust Ryan as "idea guy"

He is all over the place on the positions and he's very Tea Party, which is still not mainstream.

[GoCubsGo]

34. They underestimate him.

And, that is to their own peril.

[CabCurious]

35. +1

[Coyotl]

38. No they don't. They fear him soo much, they picked a Catholic.

[jillan]

44. What does that have to do with anything that Ryan is a Catholic?? So is Biden.

I really hope you will respond because I don't understand what your point is.

[Coyotl]

52. They are playing to a demographic that Biden brings to the Obama ticket, the Catholic vote

A lot of the Catholic vote is conservative about issues like abortion, but not as strident as the far right. The Rs want to take the Catholic votes away from Obama/Biden and Ryan gives them part of that demographic, the more conservative Catholics. The United States has the fourth largest Catholic population in the world, Catholics make up about 25% of the adult population. However, once solidly Irish, Italian and Polish, the U.S. Roman Catholic Church, the largest Christian denomination in the country, has become increasingly Hispanic.

Percent of Catholics in some swing states!!

Ohio = 18%
Penn. = 28%
Nevada = 32%
Wisconsin = 29%
New Mexico 25%
Michigan = 22%

Kinda obvious now?

[CabCurious]

68. More broadly, white males... with a blue-collar gravitas

[GoCubsGo]

69. Yes, they do underestimate him.

If they chose Ryan because he is a Catholic, then they not only underestimate Biden, they underestimate the voters. And, they didn't pick Ryan because he's Catholic, since that could lose them evangelical Christian votes. They picked him because they wanted his extreme conservatism to distract "the base" from Romney's flip-flopping. And, because they have this crazy notion that women will think he's good-looking and vote for him because of that.

The reason they're going after Biden now is because their own choice is going down like a lead balloon. Nobody is impressed with this little asshole, so they're trying to portray Joe Biden as the one who is some sort of buffoon that is a drag on his ticket, It's their usual projection.

[ErikJ]

37. Ed Schultz too. GOP/Fox panicked when he was talking about running a couple years ago.

He hunts, fishes and loves football. He couldve stolen half the Joe-6 pack vote.

[Mnpaul]

122. He not only fishes

He has a fishin' lodge and also owns a construction company run by his sons. A small businessman.

[spanone]

39. and he don't take shit from no one......

'it's a big fucking deal, Mr. President'

[Egalitariat]

41. I think he's hilarious. In a sideshow kind of way. Love him on the campaign trail. Can't really

see him being President.

[blaze]

45. I can

And that is yet another reason I will vote for Obama.

Joe has our backs. And has experience R&R can only dream of.

God forbid it ever comes to that.

[xmas74]

50. I can.

If he decided to run in 2016 he would be a viable candidate. He's now very well known by the voters, which will help his campaign tremendously compared to his two past campaigns. He's got the blue collar appeal, which could bring in the independent voters. (He'd already have the Dem voters.)

I know plenty of people who seem to genuinely like him. That could go a long way in an election. They like his appeal and his take no crap attitude.

Honestly, his no crap attitude is more "manly" than what most of the Republican noms have been for a very long time. Who would a good old boy actually have more in common with: Bush/Cheney, McCain/Palin, Romney/Ryan or Joe Biden?

[gateley]

58. He would have been an outstanding President. I think you may not know him well enough

to see that. The more you get to know him, the more impressed you become -- at least that's the way it was for me.

[Marie Marie]

42. Don't forget - Intelligent and Qualified!

Count me as another who loves my VP!!

[JoePhilly]

43. His gaffes are always funny and light hearted. Never mean or nasty like those of the GOP.

[gateley]

54. And he's able to laugh at himself! nt

[JoePhilly]

121. Very true, when he makes a gaffe, he doesn't try to hide it, or pretend it didn't happen.

He laughs at his own mistake along with everyone else. If anything, it reinforces his "everyman" appeal.

[gateley]

55. Genuine, indeed. The real deal, which is why he was my first choice for Prez. nt

[WheelWalker]

59. Mine, too.

With Joe, what you see is what you get.

[gateley]

63. ...

[CabCurious]

65. stop canoodling!

[gateley]

99. ...

[CabCurious]

100. :)

[AtomicKitten]

61. I knew I adored Joe when he said this --

[Karmasue]

116. Many of my favorite moments in the campaign

were captured in this video. And several of my favorite lines! One of them was "I'm not running against Hillary Clinton, I'm running to lead the free world..." and then, beyond the priceless "noun, verb and 9/11", I loved the sincere bio-line on Rudy Giuliani "probably the most under-qualified man, since George Bush, to run for the presidency..." Hahahaha! Double whammy! Joe Biden is a jewel!

[AtomicKitten]

118. Yep, he's a peach.

I was thrilled when Pres Obama chose him for VP.

A belated welcome to DU to you.

[Karmasue]

123. Thx for the welcome!

I also think it was a stroke of genius to name Hillary SOS...and she has been the best this country has seen in a long time. I am quite proud of her as well.

[gateley]

125. Ditto about Hillary. And a belated welcome from me, too!

[Karmasue]

129. Thx for the welcome too!

Just kind of getting my feet wet, but have already sunk to my knees a couple of times! Oh well, live and learn!

[gateley]

132. You'll only sink deeper fom here, believe me. We all did, and continue to do so. :-)

[KharmaTrain]

67. Ridicule Him To Neutralize Him...Or At Least Try.

There's no better spokesman for the working man/woman in government today, or for the past 40 years, as Joe Biden. He speaks to the soul of the working class as few politicians can and this is highly effective. I supported Joe in '88 and always have admired the man for his always principled stands on issues.

The rushpublicans hate him cause when he scores a hit, it leaves a mark. He all but sunk Ru911dy's candidacy with his "a noun, a very and 9/11" quip. In many ways he's the "anti-Mittens"...moreso than President Obama and the rushpublicans want to try to shut him down where he can and they're using a tried and true rushbo tactic: ridicule. Try to marginalize him by making a cartoon character out of him.

[CabCurious]

71. He IS a bit unrefined... but no less substantive

He slips.
He has shoved his foot in his mouth many times.
He's knocked the admin/ticket off message quite a few times.

But he's still a brilliant man of substance, which is what makes him that much more genuine.

[morningglory]

72. Ryan's pinched-mouth smile does not compare well to Biden's handsome full-face smile. nt

[Larkspur]

78. Biden is a Grandpa who knows how live and can make his kids laugh

He also has lots of experience and wisdom to offer, which is why his gaffes don't linger long, like Romney's and Ryans' do.

[Bucky]

79. #4 - He's fucking off the rails!!

No one else in America can pull this off. Joe Biden isn't a man... he's a honey badger!!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

86. He's avuncular.

Avuncular literally means "like a kind uncle." And that's how I like to see him. As the uncle you see at family events who's always good for a good laugh or a good story, and you just enjoy seeing him because he seems so real and genuine.

That and he's actually one hell of a public speaker. Heard him speak at a Jefferson Jackson dinner back in 2004 and he was incredible. Had the audience spellbound.

[CabCurious]

89. Wow... why isn't that word in common usage!!

And it truly fits in this case.

[BlueStreak]

88. If all Democrats had Joe's passion, we'd never lose another election.

We already have the issues. We need to develop the communication.

[SunSeeker]

95. +1 nt

[CabCurious]

96. +1 (but in the face of commercia media/information)

That passion is hard to combine with the communication we need.

[otohara]

97. Great Smile

both of them ....

[wryter2000]

98. That's my guy

Joe Biden <--

[Skink]

101. And he plays Dano on TV

[Island Blue]

102. And because he cares about people

including women and people who don't happen to be rich and white.

[BrainGlutton23]

103. If Paul Ryan is expecting a cakewalk of a VP-debate with Biden . . .

. . . I think he's in for a nasty surprise.

[CabCurious]

105. I have been honestly shocked at how poor a speaker Ryan is...

Even this whole "he's a serious policy wonk" spin seems to be characterizing him.

[Smilo]

108. He's a guy, I and several others, would love to have a few beers with.

[CabCurious]

109. especially the White House Homebrew (that he and Obama are probably hogging)

[gateley]

126. He's saving it for you -- Joe doesn't drink. nt

[CabCurious]

127. that complicates things...

Did not know that.

[gateley]

131. But I bet he'd still be a blast!

[LongTomH]

110. And he does great stand-up!

Go. get 'em Joe!

[tartan2]

111. I love me some Joe Biden!!

[Blue_In_AK]

115. I'm a big fan of Joe Biden.

I would rather our ticket had been reversed, actually.

[hue]

128. Biden is a great person!! Love Him!

[colsohlibgal]

130. Joe Rocks, The Good Far Outweighs The Bad

He gaffes from time to time but is a good attack dog and most importantly he has the goods to be the top dog if the worst happened.

I think back to Gore in 2000....in reality he won but had there not been the Scotus coup Joe Lieberman would have been a heartbeat from the head job. Of course it would be quite hard to out evil the dark heart of Darth Cheney....but whatever, Lieberman is a wimpy blue dog.

[CabCurious]

133. i almost feel guity bumping this thread but...

This is too funny