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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 02:57 PM Mar 2019

When does the national debt get to be a real problem?

It seems out of control to me. But maybe i am missing something.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Each tax payers share is $180,000 as of today. Impossible to collect needless to say.

The GOP always complains about when the dems are in office but when the GOP is in control it always grows more than it does under the dems.

What am I missing with this, it seems like at some point it is beyond fixing? I would love a link to any article that explains it or addresses how it is not an issue that needs addressed ASAP, thanks!

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When does the national debt get to be a real problem? (Original Post) USALiberal Mar 2019 OP
When a Democrat is running for re-election jberryhill Mar 2019 #1
Precisely. spanone Mar 2019 #10
Not until the next Dem president assumes office Norbert Mar 2019 #2
Pretty much this TheRealNorth Mar 2019 #8
when the interest payments cost so much we have to cut back on social programs. wasupaloopa Mar 2019 #3
Interest payment on debt was over $ 300 billion in 2018. That would pay for a lot... PoliticAverse Mar 2019 #14
When people stop lending the government money at reasonable interest rates. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2019 #4
When U.S. tax income can no longer cover the interest. dubyadiprecession Mar 2019 #5
A different view. dogman Mar 2019 #6
Thanks! Will watch it tonight! Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #7
The implied answer has always been that we will purposely induce inflation marylandblue Mar 2019 #9
Can I exchange today my 401K/IRA for exboyfil Mar 2019 #11
You can buy inflation-protected bonds marylandblue Mar 2019 #12
I have already done that exboyfil Mar 2019 #15
Bond funds in financial instituions? Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #16
When Democrats run Congress. sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #13
. Doremus Mar 2019 #17

spanone

(135,873 posts)
10. Precisely.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:29 PM
Mar 2019

Two things you never hear about when republics are in office: Deficits and Human Rights.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. Interest payment on debt was over $ 300 billion in 2018. That would pay for a lot...
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:59 PM
Mar 2019

of social programs.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. The implied answer has always been that we will purposely induce inflation
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:27 PM
Mar 2019

Inflation is good for debtors because the dollars you pay back are worth less than the dollars you borrowed. This is what dogman's video in post 6 is really saying. There are many naysayers among traditional economists and pundits, but it can work if you are VERY careful not to overdo it, which means not allowing spending to run too far ahead of economic growth.

Governments actual have successfully used MMT during wars, as we did during the Civil War. But we returned to fiscal discipline after the war was over and it was a period of rapid economic growth, which helped too.

Jimmy Carter once said We need the moral equivalent of war." Can climate change be that?

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
11. Can I exchange today my 401K/IRA for
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:44 PM
Mar 2019

chits to purchase health insurance, food, utilities, and rent in the future?

Otherwise I really don't like that idea.

Also folks may want to think about their defined pensions that don't have COLA built it.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. You can buy inflation-protected bonds
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 03:49 PM
Mar 2019

This was always the implied answer, because the other answer, cutting spending or raising taxes to the point of causing a severe recession is politically and economically impossible.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
15. I have already done that
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:00 PM
Mar 2019

It is a good suggestion. I laddered a bunch when TIPS interest rate matched regular Treasuries (really unheard of). Some have come due since then.

What I don't like is the actions towards changing the CPI index. So I switch from steak to chicken because of the cost of steak. That shouldn't reduce the overall basket. Also so much in the CPI is useless. I really can care less that I can get a 60 inch TV for $300 if rent has doubled. At least my kids are done with college.

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