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Judge slams Roger Stone over book (Original Post) Eugene Mar 2019 OP
"demands he comply with gag order. " Back on planet Earth were assholes tells all the law to FO .... uponit7771 Mar 2019 #1
why is this jerk not in prison now? DonaldsRump Mar 2019 #2
the reason he is not in jail: SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #9
Glad you said this - Delphinus Mar 2019 #11
Exactly. She is giving him rope LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #13
Thank you for this explanation. It makes sense. nt Hekate Mar 2019 #14
A defendant doesn't need to be out and about in order to prepare their cases EffieBlack Mar 2019 #16
this SHRED Mar 2019 #26
So that's why Manafort wasn't put in jail? Right. (sarcasm) triron Mar 2019 #18
He can prepare his case from jail with his attorneys. Hundreds do it all the time still_one Mar 2019 #21
There's more. the gag order could be grounds for appeal Kurt V. Mar 2019 #31
Lock him up already. MontanaMama Mar 2019 #3
Amazon shows the publication date as February 19, 2019 sazemisery Mar 2019 #4
Did the book actually come out before the gag order? hughee99 Mar 2019 #29
Yes, it was printed and shipped already jberryhill Mar 2019 #30
What next montanacowboy Mar 2019 #5
+1 Kurt V. Mar 2019 #7
He is being hauled into court and will have to explain himself gratuitous Mar 2019 #19
What!?!?!?!?!?!? BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #6
See my post #9 above SCantiGOP Mar 2019 #10
The only slamming that needs to happen now matt819 Mar 2019 #8
Great, shes throwing words at him, again ! donkeypoofed Mar 2019 #12
He can literally shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not get thrown in jail bullwinkle428 Mar 2019 #15
So is this judge going to act or is she just huffing and puffing? KWR65 Mar 2019 #17
I don't think he cares because 45 has promised him a pardon. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #20
Why wouldn't the judge have authority to review the book first before he can publish it? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #22
Stone pointedly did not include the book in the report he was required to submit the first time. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #24
Blah, blah, blah. Stone doesn't give a shit what the judge has to say. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #23
Its pretty obvious he is fully expecting a pardon LiberalLovinLug Mar 2019 #28
So it is baseball after all. Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #25
Slams him back into a cell? FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #27

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
2. why is this jerk not in prison now?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:09 PM
Mar 2019

First the cross-hairs, and now this.

That sounds like contempt to me.

SCantiGOP

(13,873 posts)
9. the reason he is not in jail:
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:16 PM
Mar 2019

The judge is looking at the end game. If he is not out and fully able to prepare his case it makes it more likely that he can appeal any conviction.
Just give it time. This judge obviously knows what she is doing. It might be part of Stone's strategy to have her put him in jail so he can ask for a recusal and new judge, get sympathy which will help him with fundraising, or have grounds for appeal.

Delphinus

(11,840 posts)
11. Glad you said this -
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:19 PM
Mar 2019

I was thinking he should be in jail too, but I am not in the legal field and don't tend to think in those terms. I appreciate your words.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
16. A defendant doesn't need to be out and about in order to prepare their cases
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:27 PM
Mar 2019

Defendants are locked up all the time pre-trial - and not because they're violating court orders or influencing potential jurors but because they don't have money to make bail.

The judge may have her reasons for not putting him behind bars pending trial, but I doubt that it's because she wants to ensure he can prepare for trial.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
31. There's more. the gag order could be grounds for appeal
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 06:57 PM
Mar 2019

using the 1st amendment. this move removes that option.

sazemisery

(2,608 posts)
4. Amazon shows the publication date as February 19, 2019
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:10 PM
Mar 2019

Two days before the gag order. Let's see how they explain this.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. Yes, it was printed and shipped already
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 06:51 PM
Mar 2019

It’s actually not in Stone’s power to stop it from being sold.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. He is being hauled into court and will have to explain himself
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:55 PM
Mar 2019

I don't think anyone would argue that he's not entitled to defend himself. The judge doesn't sound like she's in a particularly indulgent mood toward Roger or his lawyers, and she's going to get answers to a lot of very pointed questions. I suspect that any hedging or dodging by Stone will not be favorably received. Stone's inability to exercise his right to remain silent will probably have him going directly from the courtroom to a jail cell.

BigmanPigman

(51,627 posts)
6. What!?!?!?!?!?!?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:14 PM
Mar 2019

The judge is giving him until next Monday for his attorneys to explain how they will comply with her gag order as far as his book is concerned. Why doesn't she toss him in jail NOW?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
8. The only slamming that needs to happen now
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:15 PM
Mar 2019

is that of jail cell doors. For contempt.

The problem is that these criminals have gotten away with everything for so long they think they're untouchable. They need to go to jail and wither away, forgotten.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
20. I don't think he cares because 45 has promised him a pardon.
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 04:58 PM
Mar 2019

Roger Stone knows more about Trumper than anyone. He is a real danger to him, he will get him off the hook so stone doesn't care what the judge does to him right now.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
22. Why wouldn't the judge have authority to review the book first before he can publish it?
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 05:22 PM
Mar 2019

Why wouldn't she demand it, after the hint that a book was coming out? How would a book (full of lies about his legal predicament) not be a violation?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
28. Its pretty obvious he is fully expecting a pardon
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 06:32 PM
Mar 2019

What a nightmare. Its like one of the Godfather's henchmen going on trial knowing that he has a bought off, or otherwise threatened, prosecutor on the other side and knows he is guaranteed to walk. Its sickening. I hope I am wrong. I'd like to watch is smirky goading Marvel villain arrogance be wiped from his face finding out that he will be spending at least 10 years in prison WITHOUT any pardon coming.

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