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Why is the media silent about NZ shooter's praise of Trump as "renewed symbol of (Original Post) Atticus Mar 2019 OP
I saw a panel on CNN discussing it n/t malaise Mar 2019 #1
Good. I have mostly watched MSNBC this a.m. nt Atticus Mar 2019 #3
Couldn't watch M$NBC this morning malaise Mar 2019 #5
You didn't miss anything, watoos Mar 2019 #9
I don't listen to cable, I don't even have a tv in the house. defacto7 Mar 2019 #30
Seems like a big difference to me. Morning hosts must be republicans. triron Mar 2019 #34
They don't want people searching for the manifesto and video. PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #2
Why?Why?Why? mrsv Mar 2019 #4
You got it, watoos Mar 2019 #10
Rupert Murdock...nt 2naSalit Mar 2019 #22
I think it will eventually be discussed (though probably not enough). demmiblue Mar 2019 #6
They are getting to be a little too obvious about covering for Trump. world wide wally Mar 2019 #7
It was on Sirius XM POTUS news TrogL Mar 2019 #8
Ah, there you go, watoos Mar 2019 #12
CBS This Morning mentioned it. cyndensco Mar 2019 #11
The wife mentioned they showed a picture of the gun used and it was BLURRED out? bluestarone Mar 2019 #13
Possibly cab67 Mar 2019 #19
Well they did mention there were NAMES of famous (that they consider famous) people bluestarone Mar 2019 #20
Fucker45 probably autographed it... 2naSalit Mar 2019 #23
YEA no shit!! bluestarone Mar 2019 #25
If he'll autograph bibles, he'll autograph anything. Nevilledog Mar 2019 #26
guilt AmandaRuth Mar 2019 #14
They don't want to glorify the killer or his message jmbar2 Mar 2019 #15
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #16
Can't watch... robbob Mar 2019 #21
They should replay Trump's favorite bedtime story: dalton99a Mar 2019 #17
Yep malaise Mar 2019 #27
Thanks for posting. I wasn't familiar with that. raccoon Mar 2019 #39
I guess they are... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #18
Stephanie Miller on Free Speech TV brought it up often rurallib Mar 2019 #24
She isn't afraid to tell it like it is. triron Mar 2019 #35
I have been monitoring the NZ twitter feed & there are a bunch of brand new, no follower accounts yaesu Mar 2019 #28
Because they read more in his long manifesto than we did. Igel Mar 2019 #29
Good post GusBob Mar 2019 #38
They aren't, that I've seen. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #31
It was discussed obnoxiousdrunk Mar 2019 #32
I'v'e ONLY heard of CNN discussing it. uponit7771 Mar 2019 #36
His manifesto reads like a 'bernie bro' that is racist mathematic Mar 2019 #33
it's the meeting of the so called far left and far right . they are very similar. JI7 Mar 2019 #41
CBS This Morning erpowers Mar 2019 #37
Because blood is on their hands, too. Cha Mar 2019 #40
They brought it up on the Saturday morning "Today Show." GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #42
Because you are watching FOX? whistler162 Mar 2019 #43
I haven't heard much about it either. The media, as a whole, seems to be focusing on the Democratic Vinca Mar 2019 #44
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
9. You didn't miss anything,
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:17 AM
Mar 2019

I watched it while I was riding my bike. They were talking about Democrats hating Jews.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
30. I don't listen to cable, I don't even have a tv in the house.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:58 AM
Mar 2019

But I'm visiting my sister and she does. I watched MSNBC last evening and they were putting up the tRump comments all over the place and pushing the attack moment to moment. Question: is there a difference between MSNBC in the morning compared to the evening? I'm not used to cable news.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
2. They don't want people searching for the manifesto and video.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:05 AM
Mar 2019

They want to kill it and keep it secret to protect tRump. tRump will do something today to distract. This is too much attention, especially after his call to arms yesterday because this was very, very, bad.

mrsv

(209 posts)
4. Why?Why?Why?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:08 AM
Mar 2019

Why are we constantly asking why the media never does this when it comes to trump/GOP or that when it comes to Dems? My answer: Who owns our media?

Go from there...

demmiblue

(36,903 posts)
6. I think it will eventually be discussed (though probably not enough).
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:22 AM
Mar 2019

Dollars to doughnuts, Nicolle Wallace will discuss it.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. Ah, there you go,
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:21 AM
Mar 2019

there are FM stations that are really progressive. Sometimes I just go for a ride to listen to the truth.

bluestarone

(17,067 posts)
13. The wife mentioned they showed a picture of the gun used and it was BLURRED out?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:26 AM
Mar 2019

I'm wondering if tRUMPS name was on the weapon? I'm betting it WAS and the MSM is protection this asshole!!

bluestarone

(17,067 posts)
20. Well they did mention there were NAMES of famous (that they consider famous) people
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:10 AM
Mar 2019

On the weapon! Just saying.

jmbar2

(4,910 posts)
15. They don't want to glorify the killer or his message
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:45 AM
Mar 2019

I read several pleas right after it happened asking people not to search for it online, mention the killer's name or reasons. They don't want copycats. Deprive them of the attention they seek.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

raccoon

(31,127 posts)
39. Thanks for posting. I wasn't familiar with that.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:13 AM
Mar 2019

It makes me despair for the United States even more than I did before.

That little speech would have done In a shit hole country dictator proud.

Before the Internet, and also before Trump I never realized there are so many assholes in the world.

rurallib

(62,465 posts)
24. Stephanie Miller on Free Speech TV brought it up often
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:54 AM
Mar 2019

but sadly she is considered fringe in this country.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
28. I have been monitoring the NZ twitter feed & there are a bunch of brand new, no follower accounts
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:56 AM
Mar 2019

posting on behalf of the NRA & tRump, looks like the russians are practicing up for 2020. By the way, by a bunch I mean like about every other post.

Igel

(35,362 posts)
29. Because they read more in his long manifesto than we did.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:57 AM
Mar 2019

Question: Was he a Trump supporter?

Answer was mixed: As a symbol of white identity, yes. But his policies? "God, no."

Moreover, there wasn't a suggestion that Trump mattered much to him, or was any kind of motivation. Much less was core, since in 27 pages there was one mention of him, both "yes, as a symbol" but in the next few words a very strong objection to his policies. It was even posed as a sort of denial that Trump was all that important. "Hey, what you did--it's because of Trump, right?" And then a 10-15 word blip that acknowledged but externalized Trump.

Apparently the guy went to NZ to plan the attack. The motivation came from Australian politics; look there, first, if you want understanding and knowledge. There's a strong undercurrent of immigration issues and white identity lurking in Australian politics, what with Aboriginal rights issues, Asian East and SE Asian immigration and concerns over Chinese influence in Australian politics, and a lot of concern in some political circles over Muslim immigration, legal and illegal, from various places that have Islamic insurgencies. Like Afghanistan. the Australians even have a kind of internment camp, mostly for Muslims, in Nauru that's a big domestic issue and predates Trump by a ways. While the guy was in NZ, something motivated him to stage the attack in NZ--perhaps the heightened issues with Chinese campaign meddling, perhaps something dealing with immigration or even Maori rights and power dynamics in NZ politics and society, maybe he just thought it was easier to conduct it in NZ. So look there, second, and then flip one and two if you feel like it or think there's evidence for it. Instead of looking for 5 words in a 27-page document and discarding the rest as an irrelevancy because it doesn't apply to us, because, well, obviously everybody's politics everywhere is really about us.

The news media in the US are often self-absorbed. Internet sites tend to wallow in self-absorbed sensationalism. If you focus on Trump as the cause (tm) of this you'll overlook what's really important in two other rather different countries in order to score cheap sensationalist points. Now, there are parallels, but that's all they are, parallels, and only analogous to the extent that the analogies hold.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
38. Good post
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:14 PM
Mar 2019

5 words in a long all over the place insane dialogue
Not much to go by.

The manifesto taken as whole is some sort of attention seeking troll

If he is gonna press buttons and yank your chain he has to put Trump in there

mathematic

(1,440 posts)
33. His manifesto reads like a 'bernie bro' that is racist
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM
Mar 2019

(By that I don't mean sanders supporters in general but a specific type of sanders supporter from the last dem primary).

Go ahead and read it. It's got way more dedicated to how bad capitalism is than that one line on Trump.

The guy is a national socialist. It's pretty shortsighted to focus only on the "national" part of that.

He mentions a lot of things that may sound familiar too. Like the tactic of voting for radical candidates even over incrementalist candidates that are more aligned with your policy goals.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
41. it's the meeting of the so called far left and far right . they are very similar.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:40 AM
Mar 2019

and yes, they both hate big business, immigrants, feminists etc.

the ones who for years claimed to be the most liberal on DU and spewed hate at Obama and other democrats ended up supporting Trump.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
37. CBS This Morning
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 02:00 PM
Mar 2019

CBS This Morning discussed the link between Donald Trump and the shooter. At least one of the anchors read parts of the shooter's manifesto. Also, I read in another post that CNN was pointing out the link between Trump and the shooter.

Cha

(297,797 posts)
40. Because blood is on their hands, too.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:32 AM
Mar 2019

they own a chunk o trump just like the Russians, stein's Lies, comey, etc etc.

They normalized the shit out of him and now they're still normalizing him, right?

media****** are manipulators and manufacturers of "news".. nothing more.

GoCubsGo

(32,097 posts)
42. They brought it up on the Saturday morning "Today Show."
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:44 AM
Mar 2019

I didn't watch any of the network evening news casts to speak for those.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
44. I haven't heard much about it either. The media, as a whole, seems to be focusing on the Democratic
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:09 AM
Mar 2019

candidates. They're obsessed with whether they're qualified. Meanwhile, back at the White House . . .

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