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RandySF

(58,884 posts)
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 11:35 PM Mar 2019

Seriously, WTF. Chuck Todd blames Obama for America's division,

NBC host Chuck Todd suggested on Sunday that the U.S. is divided politically because former President Barack Obama failed to “bring this country together.”

While speaking with Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke on Meet the Press, Todd asked the 2020 contender about healing the country’s political divide.

“You aren’t the first candidate to say, ‘I’m going to bring this country together,'” Todd told O’Rourke. “The most recent Democratic president, a lot of people put their hope in him and thought he was the answer that was going to do that.”

“Why do you think that didn’t happen in Obama’s eight years?” the NBC host queried.

“I know that President Obama worked incredibly hard to find common ground with Republicans,” O’Rourke replied. “He was able to achieve a heck of a lot in those eight years.”



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/03/chuck-todd-blames-obama-americas-division-couldnt-bring-country-together/#.XI58fpAy5bw.twitter

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Seriously, WTF. Chuck Todd blames Obama for America's division, (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2019 OP
Once again...everybody with me? MontanaMama Mar 2019 #1
Who is actually watching Chuckie? HipChick Mar 2019 #2
Did he blame Obama, or is he asking O'Rourke what makes him think he Hoyt Mar 2019 #3
I stopped watching MTP GP6971 Mar 2019 #4
"Why do you think that didn't happen?" Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #5
Why didn't it happen? gratuitous Mar 2019 #6
I hope he asks Mayor Pete JustAnotherGen Mar 2019 #8
That and FAUX NEWS propaganda machine churning out nasty lies. The Wielding Truth Mar 2019 #29
Chuck toad attempting to be cerebral while asking NoMoreRepugs Mar 2019 #7
Chuckie just burned a ton of Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #9
Why was Chuck Todd given this job? Does he have a powerful relative? raging moderate Mar 2019 #10
Only here...... quickesst Mar 2019 #11
Your post title is misleading vs the actual quotes in your post. nt MadDAsHell Mar 2019 #12
Has chuck been anesthetized for two years? spanone Mar 2019 #13
I don't really like Chuck Todd, but that clip does not show him blaming President Obama. Caliman73 Mar 2019 #14
This is a hell of a good post. GaYellowDawg Mar 2019 #15
Excellent post, Caliman73. democrank Mar 2019 #16
Great post. Thanks, Caliman73. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #19
Yeah, 'cause he's Black. Cha Mar 2019 #24
Why didn't it happen? I don't know, Chuck...could it be because he's black? Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #17
Yeah, I can't stand him anymore. If I'm watching and I see his face, I switch to CNN. pnwmom Mar 2019 #18
Remember this? Cha Mar 2019 #23
RW media get the red out Mar 2019 #20
Fuck that guy Bettie Mar 2019 #21
chuckie's 1st MTP show he Cha Mar 2019 #22
He bent over backwards for those a-holes TheFarseer Mar 2019 #25
That they're more rascist than greedy ( and that's saying something) Volaris Mar 2019 #31
I give up. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #26
Gee. A black man couldn't end racism? thegoose Mar 2019 #27
Sometimes, Todd is just plain ignorant - says stupid stuff. Jarqui Mar 2019 #28
That's a very misleading headline compared to what he said. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #30
The source of our division? Look in the mirror Chuck. Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #32
Todd's gotta go. I mean he shined Russert's shoes and benefited from his death. I sick of his Pepsidog Mar 2019 #33
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Did he blame Obama, or is he asking O'Rourke what makes him think he
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 11:41 PM
Mar 2019

can bring liberals and ignorant, racist Deplorables together?

Personally, I don’t want to hear platitudes from candidates unless they can articulate how they are going to accomplish them. I think Todd asked a legitimate question, one that O’Rourke flubbed.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
5. "Why do you think that didn't happen?"
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 11:47 PM
Mar 2019

Maybe because of institutionalized racism from Republicans. It began on day one with McConnell saying he would do everything in his power to make Obama a one term president. And the battle began.

Someone tell Chuck Todd to go ..........himself.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Why didn't it happen?
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 11:50 PM
Mar 2019

Have you heard of Mitch McConnell, chucktodd? John Boehner? Paul Ryan? Any of this ring a bell in that empty head of yours?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Chuckie just burned a ton of
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:03 AM
Mar 2019

bridges today with his comments about Obama.

He will amp this up Wednesday and Thursday,watch and see. Chuckie is a Third Way Democrat or as we know them as DINO's.

This is not over by a long shot.

raging moderate

(4,305 posts)
10. Why was Chuck Todd given this job? Does he have a powerful relative?
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:05 AM
Mar 2019

I remember reading questions about his incomplete education and inadequate qualifications.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
11. Only here......
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 12:31 AM
Mar 2019

.....on Democratic Underground can this.....

“You aren’t the first candidate to say, ‘I’m going to bring this country together,'” Todd told O’Rourke. “The most recent Democratic president, a lot of people put their hope in him and thought he was the answer that was going to do that.”

“Why do you think that didn’t happen in Obama’s eight years?” the NBC host queried.

.... Be turned into this....

"Chuck Todd blames Obama for America's division,"

Oh wait....Did I say "only here"?

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
14. I don't really like Chuck Todd, but that clip does not show him blaming President Obama.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 01:04 AM
Mar 2019

I think we have to be honest here. He did not blame President Obama. He merely stated that President Obama advocated bringing the country together and was not able to accomplish the task. That is reality.

Unlike another poster on this thread I DO NOT think it was a particularly good question. It was a "horse race" question, the point of which was to put O'Rourke on the spot. He had to go one of a few ways. Either criticize President Obama which would spark headlines of "divisions within the Democratic Party as candidate "Blasts Obama". Or he would rightfully attack the Republicans for their divisiveness during the Obama Administration, which would defeat the narrative of O"Rourke being the candidate of "coming together" or he would answer like he did which was a non-committal answer praising President Obama's accomplishments.

The honest answer to the question is that President Obama was not able to bring the country together because he faced 2 fundamental challenges that he was not able to overcome. The first and biggest challenge, which O'Rourke does not face is racism and bigotry which have been an underlying challenge throughout the history of the United States. It took 219 years for a Black American to be considered a viable candidate for President and it took a cratering economy caused by 8 years of Republican mismanagement to make it possible for him to win. Yet it was a struggle for 8 years against bigoted attacks if not made directly by Republicans then at least not condemned by them. President Obama's election sparked the greatest rise in the number of White Supremacist hate groups in modern times.

Second (which is faced by any Democratic, but especially more left leaning candidates), the media landscape has FUNDAMENTALLY changed over the last 30 years with the rise of right wing radio and then the prominence of Fox News and proliferation of right wing media on-line. The ending of the Fairness Doctrine, the consolidation of media, the rise of cable news and the 24 hour media cycle, and the ruling that news organizations are not obligated to report factually accurate information, all of which occurred through the Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and then Bush Jr. administrations have lead to the divisions we see today. There have always been divisions but the sources of information had been stable and there was at very least, a semblance of objectivity within the media of the time: CBS, ABC, and NBC, and the papers of note: The New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, and others. We all operated on the same reporting. Battles were had, but politicians and pundits fought about interpretation of the information. Now, people who consume right wing media can go their whole lives without hearing any factually accurate information. The right wing has done everything in their power to poison the well. They have turned people off to politics, they have convinced their followers and some low information people that anything that does not specifically have a right wing bias to be "the liberal media", and they have allowed corporate, and wealthy interests to have a controlling influence on media in general. That is why President Obama was not able bring the country together and until the issues are addressed, it will be nearly impossible for ANY Democratic candidate to do so.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. Yeah, I can't stand him anymore. If I'm watching and I see his face, I switch to CNN.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 02:28 AM
Mar 2019

Wolfe isn't the greatest, but he doesn't bother me like smug Chuck Todd.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
21. Fuck that guy
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:24 AM
Mar 2019

he's a tool.

Also, Obama's only "contributions" to the divide were being not-white and a Democrat.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
22. chuckie's 1st MTP show he
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:24 AM
Mar 2019

had President Obama on and fucked up that interview.

UPDATE: Chuck Todd Lied & Falsely Accused President Obama of Not Mentioning "Syria"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2014/9/8/1327926/-Chuck-Todd-Lied-Falsely-Accused-President-Obama-of-Not-Mentioning-Syria?

Remember that?

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
25. He bent over backwards for those a-holes
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:20 PM
Mar 2019

And it got him nowhere. I wish we could govern by consensus building but they wouldn’t even pass tax cuts with Obama. I don’t even know what to say when R’s don’t want tax cuts.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
31. That they're more rascist than greedy ( and that's saying something)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:07 PM
Mar 2019

They're terrified of the demographic wave that gets closer to destroying them every year. If they hadn't cheated in 2018, we'd very possibly be looking at blue majority SENATE today.

I wonder how much longer they can actually prop up this sham they've created for themselves ...

 

thegoose

(3,115 posts)
27. Gee. A black man couldn't end racism?
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:33 PM
Mar 2019

Color me shocked, I tell ya...

Chuckie Toad is a fucking douche.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
28. Sometimes, Todd is just plain ignorant - says stupid stuff.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 01:42 PM
Mar 2019

In fairness though, the title of the thread could be perceived as a little unfair to Todd as he blamed Obama for not bringing the country together - not for originating the division.

The Civil War was just a silly aberration in history. Racism began with Obama ...


Obama did try to narrow the division and work across the isle. But he ran into a wall of racists in my opinion. I think history will show he was more successful than Todd is giving him credit for by narrowing the divide in the younger generations coming along.

Trump is stoking that divide today and he used it to get himself elected. To me, that's far more egregious than Obama falling short on eliminating the division (which was an impossible task to expect 100% complete in 8 years).

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
30. That's a very misleading headline compared to what he said.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:04 PM
Mar 2019

Even Obama said that his greatest regret was that instead of the country coming together, partisan divide got worse during his time.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
32. The source of our division? Look in the mirror Chuck.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:28 PM
Mar 2019

Media like Chuck legitimizing a propaganda outfit like Fox and turning our national debate into a sporting event is the source of all of our problems.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
33. Todd's gotta go. I mean he shined Russert's shoes and benefited from his death. I sick of his
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:28 AM
Mar 2019

both-sider routine.

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