Regarding those seven service members outed as white nationalists

[matt819]

I share the view of other posters who believe that the actual number is much, much (much, much) higher.

I'm hoping that this investigation prompts others to delve into the sludge that is what nationalism and identify others. Also, I'm hoping that these 7 are persuaded to reveal the identities of other white nationalists in the services as well as others in law enforcement, other government jobs, and more.

I can't see myself sinking to the depths required to investigate. The utter evil is beyond shocking.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

1. Two of the seven are in ROTC. Is that considered "service members"?

Or are they just college students, not yet military?

[mercuryblues]

2. Yes and no

They get their collage paid for and in turn sign a commitment to join the military upon graduation for x amount of years. During breaks, they advance their military training. If they do not join they are liable to be woken up by MP's and taken in. My brother in law had a classmate in med school hauled out of class by 4 MPs for failing to show up for his training. No one ever saw him again.

[MichiganLefty]

3. ROTC and Med School

ROTC doesn't pay for Medical School. ROTC is an undergraduate program (the Army has a few programs where ROTC will pay for graduate school but ROTC doesn't pay for medical school. That's a completely different program.)

Besides that MPs wouldn't be coming to arrest anyone in class. MPs have zero authority outside of the confines of a post for starters (with very few exceptions).

If a kid wants out of ROTC he'll simply get discharged and a bill for whatever Uncle Sam has spent on his education and training to date.

At the end of ROTC those kids take an oath of office as an Officer. Which, as the oath states, is voluntary and without mental reservation.

As an FYI only about 20% of ROTC Cadets are receiving any type of scholarship money. The vast majority aren't.

[sarisataka]

4. Hauled out of class by 4 MPs?

That's some deep bullshit

[MichiganLefty]

5. Yeah it is

Need some hip waders

[MichiganLefty]

6. Depends

Anyone can do the first two years of ROTC. During that time they are under no obligation for military service.

In order to take the last two years of ROTC, or upon receipt of a ROTC scholarship, they must contract and agree to military service, either active duty or the reserve component, upon graduation. At this time, technically, they are members of the reserve component of whatever branch they're taking ROTC for.

There is also a program called the Simultaneous Membership Program (SMP) wherein they are both in ROTC and the Army Reserve or Army National Guard at the same time while in college.

The kids in SMP are service members because they are contracted members of either the Army Reserve or Army National Guard

It appears the two yahoos you are talking about are in fact SMP members