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I see absolutely NO REASON to debate tRUMP at ALL before the election! (Original Post) bluestarone Mar 2019 OP
Even if the Dem does not attend the debates, the networks will still give him 90 minutes of airtime. LonePirate Mar 2019 #1
You maybe right BUT bluestarone Mar 2019 #3
I don't think Presidential General Election debates with a pathological liar benefits Democrats. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #25
Someone needs to call him out to his face. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2019 #2
If we are SPOT ON to prove his lies bluestarone Mar 2019 #4
Joe Biden would be a formidable opponent to Trumpie leftieNanner Mar 2019 #5
I think so too. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2019 #7
He has proven this in the past so he has that going for him. BigmanPigman Mar 2019 #12
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #33
There is every reason to. We now know he does not deserve to be treated with the respect. PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #6
Or make sure that the moderator is ready to roll the tape or read the transcript PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #8
THAT will be the what needs to happen (for sure will help) bluestarone Mar 2019 #9
I think Trump may decide mainstreetonce Mar 2019 #10
My suspicion too.Trump will decide he will not debate the D Nominee:full on WWPD. stuffmatters Mar 2019 #27
He will say as president he can't disclose information mainstreetonce Mar 2019 #28
Exactly. stuffmatters Mar 2019 #29
Biden is in the best position to call Trump out as a liar world wide wally Mar 2019 #11
It would be fun to watch Biden eat his lunch! bluestarone Mar 2019 #15
you are wrong in your thinking here. 0rganism Mar 2019 #13
Probably right BUT bluestarone Mar 2019 #16
that's expected. he'll lie like a rug regardless. 0rganism Mar 2019 #19
I agree with not debating him. David__77 Mar 2019 #14
Debates can't be avoided. Refusing to debate looks weak. marylandblue Mar 2019 #17
I see your point! bluestarone Mar 2019 #18
Exactly. tRump will claim he has the Dems running scared Totally Tunsie Mar 2019 #31
If that person isn't strong enough to debate trump, that person is not strong enough to win. GemDigger Mar 2019 #20
He has accomplished nothing for middle class and working people during his time in office ooky Mar 2019 #21
I will not disagree on any part of your post bluestarone Mar 2019 #22
it will be the "Donald Trump Show".. stillcool Mar 2019 #23
You got that right!! bluestarone Mar 2019 #24
On the contrary; I'm looking forward to seeing Biden take down Trump. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #26
It's a must. The Democratic candidate has to take the battle directly to Trump. VOX Mar 2019 #30
Right or wrong, I'm for debates. Hoyt Mar 2019 #32
Our candidate HAS to take Trump on customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #34

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
1. Even if the Dem does not attend the debates, the networks will still give him 90 minutes of airtime.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:41 PM
Mar 2019

We simply need to change our tactics during the debate, perhaps calling out his lies, his bigotry and his lack of a record.

TheBlackAdder

(28,207 posts)
25. I don't think Presidential General Election debates with a pathological liar benefits Democrats.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:20 PM
Mar 2019


No matter what fact, how well packaged, Trump remains fluid and adaptable and will say whatever bullshit comes into his head, that won't be fact-checked in real-time. He'll get the free pass to say whatever crap and he will get away with it. If a Democrat tried that, they would get called out, not by only the RW press, but liberal media outlets.

You can not debate with an insane person or a pathological liar, as they always maintain the advantage.

If you corner them on something, it will be a lie, a change of what the facts are, to 'alternative facts' or some character assassination that is beneath most adults, but not beneath Trump.


The lack of a Presidential Debate, takes oxygen away from Trump. This can be further exacerbated by doing a Phyllis Schlafly and scheduling Democratic events at the same time Trump has his rallys. Beto O'Rourke did this and it was highly successful in stealing Trump's network thunder. This is the tactic that Democrats should do this year. 1) No presidential general debates; 2) Democratic town halls scheduled at the exact same date and time as Trump's rallys.

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BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
2. Someone needs to call him out to his face.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:43 PM
Mar 2019

Not debating him allows him to just keep saying anything he wants unchecked. It shouldn’t be too hard to trip him up and call him out his blatant lies. A good debater will make him look like a fool.

This is a terrible idea.

leftieNanner

(15,115 posts)
5. Joe Biden would be a formidable opponent to Trumpie
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:48 PM
Mar 2019

I'm reminded of the debate against Paul Ryan, when Ryan made some stupid remark and Joe laughed at him and said "that's malarkey". Awesome!

BlueTsunami2018

(3,492 posts)
7. I think so too.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:56 PM
Mar 2019

Joe would drive daggers into Тяцмр’s kidneys with a smile on his face. Mocking and scoffing while presenting facts would drive Fat Nixon crazy.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
6. There is every reason to. We now know he does not deserve to be treated with the respect.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:51 PM
Mar 2019

Whoever debates him can list every lie, every illegal thing he's plead guilty to and paid his fines. He is the one who will refuse to debate anyone because he can't talk. He wouldn't know what to say. He'd look like the biggest idiot in the world.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
8. Or make sure that the moderator is ready to roll the tape or read the transcript
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 07:57 PM
Mar 2019

when Trump tries to say, "I didn't say that."

I have long thought that the debates are a waste of time. I never learn anything new about either candidate that I didn't already know.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
27. My suspicion too.Trump will decide he will not debate the D Nominee:full on WWPD.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:29 PM
Mar 2019

Just continue his one sided, infomercial maga rallies & pressers. I doubt Trump will ever share equal mike power with any critic or opponent again.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
28. He will say as president he can't disclose information
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:32 PM
Mar 2019

About his plans

The Dems should make sure the debates go on without him and an empty chair takes his place.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
13. you are wrong in your thinking here.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:11 PM
Mar 2019

the MSM makes him stronger by default.
if the Democrats don't debate him, advantage Trump.
he is the king of free media coverage, and it's not like actually being the president has reduced his stranglehold on MSM time.

bluestarone

(16,970 posts)
16. Probably right BUT
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:15 PM
Mar 2019

He's lied for 2 years now and lying in a debate won't change much (UNLESS we are SPOT on with PROOF)

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
19. that's expected. he'll lie like a rug regardless.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:23 PM
Mar 2019

at least in a debate the Democratic candidate can have some say about which topic he lies about, and maybe even be ready with a truth trap of some kind. if he doesn't debate, he just says whatever he wants to say all the time anyway. if possible, keep him lying in an indefensible manner on topics of common knowledge.

we can't do that if we don't debate.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
31. Exactly. tRump will claim he has the Dems running scared
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 11:00 PM
Mar 2019

and then huff and puff himself as the victor in a non-debate. (Kinda' like winning a golf tournament that he didn't play in.)

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
20. If that person isn't strong enough to debate trump, that person is not strong enough to win.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:27 PM
Mar 2019

just my opinion.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
21. He has accomplished nothing for middle class and working people during his time in office
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:35 PM
Mar 2019

on health care, taxes, employment, infrastructure, jobs, immigration, trade, foreign policy, anything. No wall either. He has no accomplishments. It certainly seems that our candidate can come prepared to provide the facts on what he hasn't done in each case.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
23. it will be the "Donald Trump Show"..
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 08:42 PM
Mar 2019

not a word of truth will come out of his mouth, but he won't shut up. And the tv people will tell us all what he meant to say. In all fairness...

VOX

(22,976 posts)
30. It's a must. The Democratic candidate has to take the battle directly to Trump.
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:35 PM
Mar 2019

And a strong Democratic candidate will make Trump look even more foolish and unqualified than he is now.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
34. Our candidate HAS to take Trump on
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 01:07 AM
Mar 2019

We need a fighter, someone who will not back down, or be made to look afraid.

If we don't have a Democratic candidate who will speak truth while Trump spews lies, we will lose.

Yes, you are wrong in your thinking.

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