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The White House has proposed a capping the amount of money a student can get for college!
Ok, I did not go to college, but this so wrong for so many reasons!
MichiganLefty
(27 posts)Do we really need to be funding programs of study where the kid (and taxpayer) can never hope to recoup what was spent without fiscally enslaving the kid for the first 20+ years of their adult life?
What we need is better counseling upfront. When I was an Education Officer in the military I spent a lot of time counseling young men and women on the cost-benefit of their intended course of study. A lot of the time it was a real eye opener for them and helped them adjust their plans accordingly.
We need to stop shoving kids into college "just cus".
Higher education has become an industry
imanamerican63
(13,798 posts)Then you have those who cheat and bribe the way into college without paying, fix those problems first.
MichiganLefty
(27 posts)In student loan debt would say otherwise. Over 70% of kids in college have student loans.
My point is we need better career counseling for kids planning on going to college
KPN
(15,646 posts)I see you just became a DU member today.
imanamerican63
(13,798 posts)Did you start out on here with 50 bazillion posts?
KPN
(15,646 posts)solutions do you see and suggest for the current higher education cost and accessibility issue. How would you fix the problem otherwise?
GP6971
(31,166 posts)It's been there all the time...just under the radar.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)I find that in casual conversations with parents of kids in their junior or senior year of high school usually have absolutely no understanding of how financial aid works. They don't know what a Pell grant is, or don't understand the income limits. They have no idea that a financial aid package might well be mostly loans, that have to be paid back, not grants or scholarships that don't have to be repaid. They don't understand what fields of study lead to actual jobs, or jobs that pay well.
They've bought into the bullshit that everyone needs a four year degree. What's really needed are more people in the trades. THOSE are jobs that aren't likely to be outsourced (I can't ship my furnace off to China or somewhere when it needs fixing) and pay remarkably well.
Several years ago in a similar conversation here on DU someone defended getting a degree in something I don't recall (anthropology or 18th Century French literature or some other field that has essentially zero job prospects) because those four years were, as he saw it, the only time he'd have available to do that kind of reading and studying. Meanwhile, I haven't a clue how he expected to make a living once he got a degree.
You can ALWAYS go back to school to take courses that interest you, check books out of the library, take an online course, get those amazing Great Courses DVDs or CDs from the Teaching Company. I've done all of the above over the years.
MichiganLefty
(27 posts)That's my point
albacore
(2,399 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)The idiot that doesn't want his school grades made public because he is so smart.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)But she makes little money. She has to go back to school.
I have worked in construction for a long time, and the prevailing wage on military bases is the same as it was in the 90s. It is not adjusted for inflation.
I dont know the answer, but everything sure sucks.
KPN
(15,646 posts)a living wage job whether it was in their field of study or not. The problem isnt too many people getting better educated. Dont be fooled.
mshasta
(2,108 posts)Sgent
(5,857 posts)for loans its 200 semester credit hours attempted for undergraduate loans / aid -- a degree is about 110-130 with no withdrawals, no D's or F's, etc.
There is also a cap on all other federal financial aid.
struggle4progress
(118,294 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)rates for home mortgages and maybe even vehicle loans. Think folks, dont fall for the BS. Not long ago, virtually anyone who graduated from college was able ultimately to find employment that provided a living wage whether it was in their field of study or not. Dint be fooled by the simplistic BS that basically argues education isnt valuable for everyone.