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Pholus

(4,062 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:54 PM Mar 2019

My explanation about Barr to the local Trumpies.

Look, all along I have said I simply couldn't tell if Trump was stupid or just a criminal. The constant changing of the story seemed to scream "criminal" to me but since I trust Mueller based on his lifetime of flawless service and past record, the conclusion must be that Trump is not up to his eyeballs in direct conspiracy that we can prove. While you're celebrating, keep in mind it actually means Trump is literally the stupidest and most useless president we have ever had who has put our country in grave risk.

Barr's letter says Mueller is very clear about Russian interference while Trump claims it never happened.

This proves beyond a doubt that Trump is SOOOOOO stupid he let Vladimir Putin play him like a cheap fiddle both before and after the election and he's too weak and smitten by strongmen to stand up to Russia, finding it easier to smear the good faith efforts of his patriotic intelligence professionals rather than face his mistake.

So why are Trump's campaign aides going to jail? Well, it appears that the Trump's yuuuuge ego couldn't stand the truth showing his weakness and told them to lie for him. So they did and that is the basis for a two year obstruction investigation. At least the USG made money off of that criminal Manafort, so the investigation didn't waste taxpayer dollars but the Russians have had two years to attack again because of weak Trump.

No president has EVER shown such weak leadership in the face of a direct attack on Democracy -- that's Trump's "legacy," LOL. Pathetic loser Trump should resign for his numerous failures immediately but we all know he doesn't have the character to do the honorable thing.

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My explanation about Barr to the local Trumpies. (Original Post) Pholus Mar 2019 OP
Nice way to frame it ... sort of the old: RHMerriman Mar 2019 #1
Saying it was one or the other was a nice way early on to cover my bets early on. Pholus Mar 2019 #3
I am copying and pasting this one for safekeeping into my rant vault ... great angle amigo! (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #2
I also remember all that material going between offices. Pholus Mar 2019 #4
The Trumpies, as you call them customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #5
Yeah, but if I don't do this Pholus Mar 2019 #6
Good luck customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #7
Trump Certainly Is Stupid Progressive2020 Mar 2019 #8
Stupid or criminal? czarjak Mar 2019 #9
Today Putin Sent A Plane With 100 Troops To Venezuela DallasNE Mar 2019 #10
Thank you! This is the perfect way to frame it. bitterross Mar 2019 #11
"innocent? That's great? So since you weren't involved Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #12
Trump has shown very strong leadership in the direct attack on Democracy FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #13
Right. Either he's guilty or he's stupid. Volaris Mar 2019 #14

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
1. Nice way to frame it ... sort of the old:
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 08:58 PM
Mar 2019

Nice way to frame it ... sort of the old:

"Either they were knowingly criminals or unknowing incompetents" - not sure either one is a claim to fame for Team GOP.

Or, as has been said:

"Look, forget the myths the media's created about the White House--the truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand."

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
3. Saying it was one or the other was a nice way early on to cover my bets early on.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:01 PM
Mar 2019

I am not upset with Mueller's efforts. This is not over yet, but in the meanwhile it's time to say "so if Trump's innocent he really is a f*cking moron."

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
4. I also remember all that material going between offices.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:05 PM
Mar 2019

I think the collusion investigation found a LOT of other wrongdoing and we're just waiting for those shoes to drop. Mueller is still a patriot in my opinion. Hopefully they come out DIRECTLY after the GOP convention where it's too late for them to pick up the pieces.

Until then, there is NO way to paint Trump as a good president without a massive amount of fantasy. I intend to point that out daily.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. The Trumpies, as you call them
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:37 PM
Mar 2019

already know that Trump is not the sharpest tool in the shed. They know he says all kinds of crap, from the merely goofy to the totally outrageous.

They also know that his being president is driving our side nuts. They'd rather have a buffoon for president that makes them laugh at us, than what they perceive as evil genius from our side.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
6. Yeah, but if I don't do this
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 09:55 PM
Mar 2019

then I don't get to say "what the hell do you know, you thought Trump was a great choice" later.

Play the long game.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. Good luck
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:04 PM
Mar 2019

wasting your time with deplorables, I'm going to focus on the mushy middle once we have a nominee.

Progressive2020

(713 posts)
8. Trump Certainly Is Stupid
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:36 PM
Mar 2019

He makes George W. Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar. Trump is not merely stupid, he is also a narcissist and borderline sociopath. On top of this, he is also just simply an asshole, one of the biggest ones in history (Mussolini springs to mind). Whatever else goes down, Trump will already be the worst President in American History.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
11. Thank you! This is the perfect way to frame it.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:57 PM
Mar 2019

Along with mentioning all the SDNY and State of NY investigations still in progress.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
12. "innocent? That's great? So since you weren't involved
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:30 PM
Mar 2019

What have you done to stop Russia from hacking our election again? Nothing? So it's ok because you "won"?"

Don't think I recall anyone ever asking trump this. (at one of his helicopter pressers where he likes it because (1) makes him look busy and 2) no one can hear question do he obfuscates.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
13. Trump has shown very strong leadership in the direct attack on Democracy
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 06:22 PM
Mar 2019

He's all for that attack and it seems to be working.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
14. Right. Either he's guilty or he's stupid.
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 07:23 PM
Mar 2019

Pick one, and own it.
Oh, Mueller picked not guilty FOR YOU? That's good then.

Right?

Ohhhhhhhh....so sorry for you, REALLY.

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