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George II

(67,782 posts)
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:17 PM Mar 2019

2018: Obama Says Trump Is 'a Symptom, Not the Cause' of Political Unrest

Former President Barack Obama went after his successor by the name for the first time since leaving office, according to Business Insider, calling President Donald Trump “a symptom, not the cause” of today’s political climate.

“It did not start with Donald Trump. He is a symptom, not the cause,” Obama told students at the University of Illinois on Friday. “He’s just capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years.”

Obama has historically avoided naming Trump directly, instead criticizing his tactics. While giving the Nelson Mandela Annual Lecture in Johannesburg earlier this year, Obama attacked the “politics of fear and resentment,” but never named Trump directly. “Strongman politics are ascendant, suddenly,” said Obama at the time.

Throughout his speech on Friday, Obama continued his critique of today’s political environment, but maintained hope for change. He emphasized the need for the students to get out and vote in November, saying “stakes really are higher” in this year’s midterms.

http://fortune.com/2018/09/07/obama-trump-speech/

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This bears re-posting and repeating as much as possible. Obama had it right, and he said it a number of times.

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riverine

(516 posts)
5. I believe - although I am new here, that AOC was lauded for saying the same thing this weekend
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:35 PM
Mar 2019

when Obama originated it.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
17. Welcome to DU
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 03:27 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Mon Mar 25, 2019, 05:11 PM - Edit history (1)

I simply don't get the point of the post I was replying to. This is something that needs to be said and resaid constantly, so it's good to laud the people who do say it.

I will disagree with the idea that Obama "originated" it just because he made the same point last year. This was something that was evident even before he (Obama) was elected, and people who tried to point it out were brushed off and dismissed.

There is no point to sniping and one-upping over who said it first. It simply needs to be said, every single day, by as many voices as possible.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
15. No one lives "rent free" in my head. Space there is WAY too valuable, I charge....
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:12 PM
Mar 2019

...premium rates to reside there.

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
2. When you allow a handful of infinitely evil and greedy people to own over 50% of a nation's wealth
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:23 PM
Mar 2019

They are going to f*ck up your democracy and turn it into a cesspool. It is the excessive concentration of wealth that brings us Trump.

Simple, direct and the real reason you are seeing an obvious traitor and Nazi as president.

 

riverine

(516 posts)
3. Democrats are wealthier than Republicans
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:29 PM
Mar 2019

Just look at the zip codes of the wealthiest towns like Upper East Side, Boulder, La Jolla, San Fran, Fairfax Country and so on.

Nope - the overriding philosophy of the Trump Klan is anti-immigrant.

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
6. overall this might be true
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:40 PM
Mar 2019

but you are looking waay beyond the handful of billionaires that own almost everything.

When you look at just the top 100 wealthiest families in the US... they lean to the very right wing extreme or sit on the sidelines (apolitical).

 

riverine

(516 posts)
8. Perhaps "families" lean extreme right wing but the Forbes 100 wealthiest individuals are
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:45 PM
Mar 2019

overwhelmingly liberal

Off the top of my head Buffett, Bezos, Gates, the two Google guys, Soros, and most of the top 20 are liberal.

(notice I said "liberal" and not progressive.)

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
12. Buffet and Gates are not liberal in the sense
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:57 PM
Mar 2019

that Thiel, Murdock, Kock, the Walton family.. and numerous others are conservative.

Gates and Buffet donate huge amounts of money to charities... but are not pushing a liberal agenda here in the US...

The closest you can come is Gates supporting MSNBC but my understanding is the M$ is now out of the jointly formed corporation (but the network kept the "MS" part of the name).

 

riverine

(516 posts)
13. Buffett avidly supports Democrats (not sure about "pushing an agenda")
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:04 PM
Mar 2019

and Gates is a classic liberal on raising taxes, science, climate change and many other causes.

Are they crispy-fried crazy like their conservative fellow multi-billionaires (Adelson and the Kochs come to mind)? No.

I would call them left of center liberals (but not progressive like I first said).

I consider Michael Bloomberg to the left, by the way. I don't care what he calls himself.

lapfog_1

(29,219 posts)
16. left of center
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:14 PM
Mar 2019

in what is now the "center" of the nation (which in a few generations has migrated to the right).

I doubt seriously that Gates and Buffet (and especially Bloomberg) are anything close to "new deal Democrats" or even "new green deal" Democrats.

Yes, Gates is science based, believes in climate change... but that is not the same as what the Kock and Adelson and the rest are doing to push the ultra conservative agenda.

The closest we have is George Soros... and he is really more of a boogey man used by the right to try to discredit the left or at least for them to say "see, the left has their money people too".

I shouldn't neglect to mention Tom Steyer... so we have 2 who;e billionaires pushing a leftist agenda... they have how many pushing the ultra conservative agenda?

Farmer-Rick

(10,202 posts)
9. Yeah, because those infinitely greedy and evil men are using immigration to get
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM
Mar 2019

them the dictator of their choosing....Trump. Gates, the Waltons, The Koch Brothers, Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Ellison and Larry Page all are perfectly happy to have Trump as their chosen president. If they weren't, they could very easily use their money to stop him.....but they don't.

I never said Democrats were NOT rich. They just don't have as much and, they don't use it against the evil ones. By the way, just because you live in a high end zip code doesn't mean you are rich. The common idea is to buy the cheapest house in the most expensive neighborhood. My daughter, who barely makes above minimum wage, lives in one of the most ritzy neighborhoods in LA. She rents from a very rich friend.

Buffett, Bezos, Gates, the two Google guys, Soros, they are NOT lefty liberals. They are very, very conservative liberals and 50 years ago they would be considered RepubliCONS. A few of them talk a good game and they rarely use their money to manipulate politics like the evil ones do. If they didn't want Traitor Trump and Putin running the US, they would not be doing it. They have the money they could stop them right now. But they don't because they more or less approve of what the Nazi in the white house is doing.

 

riverine

(516 posts)
14. Oh come on. Do they approve of the Nazi in the White House?
Mon Mar 25, 2019, 01:08 PM
Mar 2019

Or are they so fucking rich they don't have to worry about anything?


The latter is certainly truer.

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